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Racing Turtles

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"Why run, my little Phoenician?"
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toskarin

there's like a subtle switch in tone you can pick up when people are talking about a celebrity they first heard of through stories about their death, and it's hard to explain, but you just know that a wire has gotten crossed somewhere and they're trying to find a morally acceptable way to fill a snapewife shaped hole in their heart with a real corpse

it's like the difference in tone between recounting a deeply miserable incident versus describing the plot of a finely-crafted theatrical tragedy. there's a certain tinge of "if only..." about it

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vadersaber

People turning against Chappell Roan for not accepting harassment & stalking of her and her family, saying Hozier is acting embarrassing for defending his girlfriend THAT Y'ALL WEREN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT after she got harassed online, calling Pedro Pascal names for.. apparently not greeting fans loudly in his own private time?

Y'all have GOT to get a grip on real life if you think celebs establishing boundaries is working against you. You do not know these people, you will not sleep with these people and they do not owe you anything!!!!!!

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vaspider

People need to remember that Hozier and Chapell Roan's job is making music, and Pedro Pascal's job is acting. Those are their fucking jobs. When they're on stage, they are working, so let them do their fucking job and don't be a weirdo about it. When they are not on stage or making a deliberate public appearance, they are not at work, so leave them the fuck alone.

If you're not running up to your favorite barista to demand a selfie and a hug, but you are doing that to a musician or an actor: what makes that person different to you? What about their job makes you think they owe you fucking anything at all? You pay them to perform a little song. You don't pay them for 24/7/365 access to their lives.

(And if you do treat your favorite barista like that... what is wrong with you?)

Maybe it's just bc I'm from nerd culture, where I did 100% pay $108 for 5 minutes of talking to Katee Sackhoff & a signed picture, but like... that was a work transaction. I paid for her time. I paid for her to listen to 5 minutes of my nerd babble. (I honestly don't remember what I said - I pretty much black out in those situations.) If I wasn't paying her and she wasn't at her table, uh. Yeah. Then she isn't working and if I ran into her I might say, "Oh hi, I love your work," at most, and then leave her alone bc she's not at work, and like everybody else, she deserves to get to exist outside of work.

Rove McManus was out of the public eye for a while after his wife died. On the day or the weekend before his talk show came back on air, someone encountered him at a lake and had the following exchange:

Random person: are you Rove McManus?

Rove McManus: not today

And I just always think that celebrities are only their celebrity-self when they choose to be.

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Shelley Duvall wasn’t a demure 70s coquette for your moodboard or a nutcase driven mad by Kubrick’s harsh directorial hand. She was a woman with no prior acting experience or training who jumped into the industry and made her mark. She was an unforgettable personality on the screen; so down to earth and approachable yet aloof in her own way. She had a gift that can’t be taught in a drama college; her onscreen manner felt natural. Contrary to urban legend, she didn’t go completely insane after the Shining. She produced 3 successful children’s television series throughout the 80s and 90s and earned a Peabody award and two Daytime Emmy nominations. She was passionate about creating quality entertainment for children.

Many who worship celebrities only worship an image or a constructed narrative, and, admittedly, there’s no way for any of us to have known Shelley as a person beyond her work in film and television. Still, when I look at her I see someone who worked hard to create so many wonderful things, and I think her talent was so much greater than what people gave her credit for.

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not100bees

god the idea of “doubling down” has ruined the fucking internet.

“when anybody commits a minor offense they must immediately and with no hesitancy apologize and start self-flagellating. any attempt to clarify your point or umbrage taken with any insults not only makes the original offense worse, they now have a new problem” does anybody see why this might be bad?

if the human threat response was to lie down on the ground, throw an apple in your mouth, and start marinating yourself for your attacker’s convince we wouldn’t have gotten very far as a species

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roach-works

i tried apologizing a few times, early on, and it turns out that even if you DO try to apologize for something you genuinely feel bad about, people who want to keep being mad at you just say you didn’t, and keep being mad at you anyway.

so like, fuck it. the best apology is restitution to injured parties and changed behaviour going forward, and that doesn’t require you to jump through a single hoop for crowds of hostile strangers.

just don’t repeat shit you regret having done or said before, make what amends you actually can, and let everyone who wants you to grovel get sick of waiting.

Yup, and allot of the times the thing they want you to apologize for is them deliberately reading you in the worst way possible because, again, they just want someone to be mad at.

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ppl be like “i need to watch a based streamer who calls out their chat whenever theyre dumb and doesnt have an audience of eleven year olds” like sneegsnag isnt right there

im about to lose my shit

WE GOT ANOTHER ONE BOYS

@mellointheory i’m on the phone with my partner and i read this out loud to them and they said, “is this person gaslighting or lying to you???”

bro. bro. look.

this is sneegsnag wearing his own merch. he has a dog named boomer (hence the dog patch) and he models his online shit after lancer deltarune. he has a youtube channel. he has a criminology degree. he speedruns fnaf: sb. he has a twitter.

this is his profile picture on twitch. please. do a single google search. search his name on any site. he’s literally fucking real. here is a screenshot from one of his streams

he literally exists. there’s fanart of him on tumblr and on twitter. why would i waste my time gaslighting people into believe he exists. the entire reason this post blew up is people laughign at someone believing sneegsnag was made up. half of the entertainment in this post comes from people still believing sneegsnag is made up.

hey op i made art of your OC!! ^w^ I love his design it’s super creative :DDD

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fernlom

holy crap he’s real

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penguinramen
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corrucyst

sneegsnag from my Streams

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scientia-rex

#the best part about this post is that it’s still even odds he’s not actually real

Yes. Yes, I love it.

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nightpool

he was literally on SMPEarth how would someone make something like this up

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ON THE GRADUATION OF HOLOLIVE 4TH GENERATION’S KIRYU COCO

Some context is going to be required here.

Hololive is a group of virtual youtubers, or vtubers.  This group is run by Cover Corporation, a talent management agency, and is organized along the lines of a Japanese idol group, meaning that new members are added in batches (referred to as “generations“ here but generally called “classes.”)  There are between five and seven generations in Hololive’s Japanese branch, depending on how you count, two in their Indonesian branch, and one in their English branch.   There was also a Chinese branch, at one point, but they all graduated.

Graduation: when a real life idol reaches a certain age (23 or so, usually) and is deemed too old for the business, she “graduates” from her group, with great ceremony, and has to figure out what to do with the rest of her life.  But virtual idols don’t age.  They could go on forever, or at least as long as the person playing them can do the voice.  Nonetheless, graduations do happen - one member of the fifth generation resigned shortly after her introduction following a doxxing and harassment campaign, and the Chinese branch quit en masse after one of the Japanese Hololive members referred to Taiwan as a country.  That member was Kiryu Coco: Yakuza, drug dealer, guerilla filmmaker, edgelord, bilingual comedian, host of the weekly Reddit Shitpost Review, and, fundamentally, an anime dragon woman with enormous tits.  (Her horns are real, but her tail, she lets us know, is a plug-in.) 

Coco announced her graduation yesterday.  She will be the first established member to leave the group.  It came as a shock; sure, there had been a difficult period following the Taiwan incident when mainland Chinese trolls were invading her streams and spamming her chat (the community referred to these people as “antis”, hilariously,) but that had blown over, for the most part.  We knew there had been conflicts between her and Cover management over some of her more risque material - she was constantly pushing the boundaries of what was acceptable for an “idol”, or, frankly, for a female public figure of any kind in Japan - but she was so integral to the community, building bridges between the generations and the different language groups, refining and amplifying and in some cases inventing the running gags that were integral to the identities of so many of her colleagues, and, in general, working more hours than a human being should to make Hololive a success.   Burnout is of course a big deal with streamers but Coco so rarely let her fatigue come across, and it’s not even clear that that’s what happened here.  Coco is, most likely, going on to bigger and better things.

Except “Coco” isn’t.  

A Hololive vtuber is a weird gestalt entity, composed in part of the affectations and backstory and design created for the character and in part of the personality, real life and real history of the performer.   We know that Coco’s real mother is sick and had to go back to America for treatment, because Coco tells us what’s going in her life, except she says that Mama Dragon has to go far across the sea and Papa Dragon is staying home; this blending of reality and kayfabe (a term in general use among english-speaking Hololive fans, tellingly) reminds me of pro wrestling, where the best characters and storylines make use of real personalities and events and rivalries to give them their charge.  In Hololive as in WWE the company owns the character, but if a performer leaves WWE we know we will probably see them again soon enough.  They’ll be under a new name, but it’ll be the same person with the same face and the same moves and the same personality - maybe tweaked a little to avoid a lawsuit, but close.   With vtubers, though, it’s a different story.   There is a person called Kiryu Coco with a voice and a face and friends and a history and on July 1st there will be a big farewell concert streamed live over the internet and then that person will cease to exist.

And that’s weird, right?  I had enough of a parasocial relationship with this fake person that when I went to my discord to be sad about her imminent departure I had legitimately forgotten that she was a big titty anime dragon lady and that I was going to get roasted the second someone googled her.  She’s just Coco in my brain, and I know that the woman who performs that role isn’t actually about to be erased but part of me insists that I’m awaiting an execution.  That part of me - the part that had me writing “but what if cartoons were real and had feelings though” stories when I was in high school - is doing backflips about it.   I can’t figure out the meta here.  Does this entity have a soul?  Does it live in a certain streamer who also goes by KSON, or somewhere else?   Will it haunt the giant statue of Cover CEO Motoaki “Yagoo” Tanigo looking sad that Coco built in Minecraft as her last great contribution before her departure? 

Whatever she is and wherever she’s off to, she will be missed, and I will hear her cheerful “good morning, motherfuckers!” on the wind. 

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Fictional characters might not be real, but our relationships with them are. Studies show it’s difficult for our brains to distinguish between our familiarity with characters on TV and our personal relationships with real people. The effect is so strong that just thinking about watching your favorite TV show can make you feel less lonely. Source Source 2

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