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spriggan675

I think adults need summer vacation. Like let's just close down all our jobs for three months and play outside. Please. I'm so tired.

Love to see this post getting notes again. None of us are ok.

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orteil42

i may just be french but do americans really not get paid summer vacations? you don't go to the beach with your kids? "There is no federal or state statutory minimum paid vacation or paid public holidays" am i reading this right? like i'm not trying to rub anyone's face in it but you're just stuck in the rat race year-round until you're old and that's normal and accepted??? in the 21st century???

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prokopetz

I 100% agree with the criticism that the central problem with "AI"/LLM evangelism is that people pushing it fundamentally do not value labour, but I often see it phrased with a caveat that they don't value labour except for writing code, and... like, no, they don't value the labour that goes into writing code, either. Tech grifter CEOs have been trying to get rid of programmers within their organisations for years – long before LLMs were a thing – whether it's through algorithmic approaches, "zero coding" development platforms, or just outsourcing it all to overseas sweatshops. The only reason they haven't succeeded thus far is because every time they try, all of their toys break. They pretend to value programming as labour because it's the one area where they can't feasibly ignore the fact that the outcomes of their "disruption" are uniformly shit, but they'd drop the pretence in a heartbeat if they could.

Yeah.

For those who didn't watch it happen: in the 90s, Programming went from being a high-end middle-class job that every adult(and ~Respectable Periodical~) told kids would "let you punch your own ticket" to being a job-class rife with underpayment and extreme abuse(coders sleeping under their desks rather than going home was a common/horrifying joke of the late 90s/early-to-mid 00s) in less than 10 years. Capital's refrain of "Learn to Code" isn't about respecting coders; it's about creating such a massive over-supply that they can treat coders however viciously they like.

Management's your enemy and Unions your only Friend.

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espanolbot2

Hm, I was pondering about the recent-ish trope of Adventuring Guilds (effectively trade unions for protagonists in fantasy rpg-inspired settings, which I’m sure I’ve seen in a bunch of things but the main example that springs to mind is Goblin Slayer to my annoyance but the Hero Association in One Punch Man has a similar albeit superhero-slanted deal), and how mechanically in the setting they exist to ensure x reward is provided for x amount of work/danger involved but in a meta sense are there so the characters don’t have to go looking for heroing gigs on ye olde Craigs Lyst or something.

It’s an interesting idea, similar in a manner to the many fantasy trope-tinged guilds in the Discworld novels of the late great Terry Pratchett, although an amusing idea occurred to me with the idea of trade unions for fantasy heroes.

Like, if there are unions to ensure employment and fair pay for folks clearing out dungeons, getting gnolls out the cabbage patch, stopping gnomes from going through your bins, and so on, then, logically, there much exist fantasy hero scab workers as well.

Folks that the local king or something brings in for lower pay on more dangerous jobs. Folks who are, say, completely new to the setting, out of their depth, and are thrust into a dangerous situation by a seemingly benevolent authority figure because said authority figure is too cheap to hire someone who understands the risks involved and asks more suitable wages for the role…

Y’know…

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gojirahkiin

Oh my god… the entire isekai genre is a way for Big Adventure to avoid negotiating with Adventurer Unions!

I mean, even as the person who suggested it I’d admit it’s really silly, but at the same time even modern capitalism sucks when dealing with organised labour, I’d imagine that in a pseudo-feudal setting they’d be even more awkward about it.

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crinosg

Kid from earth: What? Where am I? Who are you?

Wizard: Do not be afraid young one, I have summoned thee from across time and space to our world, we are in desperate need of a hero to save our world from the forces of darkness. It is your destiny to save our world from utter ruination. Will you take on this epic quest.

Kid: Sure!!!

*Bunch of adventurers kick open the door*

Wizard: Oh shit oh shit no no no no.

Head adventurer: AINT NOBODY GOING ON ANY EPIC QUEST.

Kid: Um, who are these guys?

Wizard: Um, they are agents of the dark lord sent to stop you, quickly run past them and go do that quest.

Head adventurer: Yeah you can shut up now. PAULIE. SILENCE SPELL.

Paulie: You got it boss. *Silences the wizard*

Head adventurer: Look kid, we’re representatives of the local 102.

Kid: Uhhh….

Paulie: The adventurer’s union.

Kid: Ah. Okay I know what Unions are. They have those here?

Head Adventurer: Sure do kid, and we got word that this douchebag was using magic to pull in unqualified under aged non union adventurers from another dimension so that he could avoid having to pay us our proper due. How old are you kid?

Kid: Um….14?

Head adventurer: Come on.

Kid: Okay twelve

Head adventurer: *Turns to wizard* You kidnapped a twelve year old kid to go fight the dark lord? Were you even gonna give them any equipment? Any magical training? Any supervision?

Wizard: *shrugs*

Head adventurer: *Hands kid a scroll* Here is a portal scroll back here, you want to still do this in like six years, give us a holler and we’ll set you up with some basic training and an apprenticeship, Until then, go back to your world and do whatever kids there do.

Kid: Yessir.

Head adventurer: As for you ya douchebag, Go tell that fat gasbag of a king he wants the dark lord defeated he better pony up the cash to hire a real, union certified adventuring party. And you try this crap again then the next kid you summon is gonna have an epic quest of dislodging my boot from your ass.

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pineaberry

I love this…

“The Pevensie kids are unwitting scab workers for Big Jesus” was not the take I expected to see today, but I think it’s the take I deserve.

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There's something hilarious about how so much subsequent media has positioned Vampires and Werewolves as, like, binary opposite entities, and then you read Dracula (1897) and realize that wolves are that guy's preferred solution to every problem. You'd say something to Dracula about "ah yes, werewolves, vampires' great eternal enemies," and he'd just be like "you mean my subcontractors?"

I'm really enjoying the growing consensus in the notes that there's an Eternal Rivalry Between Vampires and Werewolves now, entirely because the werewolves, sick of Dracula's bullshit, have unionized.

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“Omg dungeons menshi is so good! The characters and the worldbuilding and the art and the hu—“

It’s because the author had TWO MONTHS between publications instead of the usual week. 8X the amount of time to plot her story and see where she had been and where she was going and figure out how best to get there. Imagine if this was the industry standard instead of the crushing gears of weekly publication which grinds the minds, bodys, and souls of mangaka to dust until there is nothing left. Imagine Dungeon Menshi qualify manga as a rule not the exception. Imagine stories that did not destroy their creators. Imagine—

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housederiva

When Veilguard comes out, please keep it in the back of your mind every single time you interact with Varric and Lucanis that their writer got laid off with little to no warning and that she is and always will be a Dragon Age legend and one of the reasons why the franchise has stayed afloat for as long as it has

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m4gehand

Now HERE is a good and valid reason to criticize Bioware/EA, and a really important story to share around while DA4 has the buzz it does!!!

Corporations need to be called out on their anti-worker bullshit regardless of the quality of the products they produce.

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megafreeman

Hey so remember that this is one of the worst layoffs to ever happen because

  1. Bioware management denied to give the laid off workers the severance they were contractually obligated to give. They were entitled to one month's pay for every year they worked at Bioware but were given far less than that (Mary Kirby specifically worked for Bioware for 17 years).
  2. The laid off Dragon Age devs are in this unique position unlike any other game developer. Since Veilguard isn't out yet, they are still under the NDA and can't share the work they've done on the game for their portfolio. Because Veilguard has been in development for 10 years, with none of them working on anything else, that essentially leaves a 10 year gap in their portfolio.
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leidensygdom

WOTC is hiring a "Principal AI Engineer"

After multiple scandals of them trying to "covertly" using AI (and denying it, when found out, up until the evidence was too big to deny), declarations from Hasbro's CEO, Chris Cocks, saying how much he loves AI, after their empty promises with dubiously worded "No, we won't use AI (in our final products)", Wizards of The Coast is now hiring a "Principal AI Engineer".

And as highlighted (the highlighted version was posted by @/SpicyEncounters on Twitter), this does include AI usage for all sorts of things- Including writing, audio, and art. (Which is an incredibly broad amount of subjects, but the wonders of AI is being able to have a single guy hitting the keyboard 'til the plagiarism machine pukes something decent)

This is no surprise to most people, I think, but it's still a great time to just boycott WOTC, and make noise about this everywhere: Social media, on your way out for your DnD Beyond subscription, amidst many others. Don't give them the money. The cents they save from not hiring artists shouldn't be worth much amidst many users refusing to use their products and bringing their money elsewhere. They already had massive layoffs- Which of course heavily hurt their artists, and this was the "natural", greedy next step.

I keep thinking about getting sent death threats over bringing up this in the past with people who were too deep in on the corporate bootlicking. Who would've thought that the same company that threw their creators under the bus with the OGL would now be looking forward to keep running them over for a measly profit.

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depsidase

Sharecropping.

FYI if your employer does this, if they have done it for a long time especially, you and your coworkers could be owed huge amounts of unpaid wages and it would be an easy suit if there is a paper trail like this and your employer is placing strict requirements on your behavior while not at work. Employment lawyers generally work on contingency. Just food for thought.

A national park I worked at had all the permanent rangers (I was seasonal) basically on stand by for call outs 24-7 or they were penalized on their reviews.

They got tired of it, sued, won, and the nps had to pay back YEARS of back wages for stand by time. Now they are all scheduled and if* you get called out its time and a half.

ONLY because some rangers stood up.

If your employer does this: document document document, then find an attorney

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inqorporeal

Don't let them lie to you about this. They're acting like the llms are some inherently uncontrollable natural process.

My mom used to write code for the US Navy, and one of the first things she drilled into me when school was teaching us LogoWriter was "A computer is only as smart as the person who programmed it." The creators of these systems have full control over how they operate and what kind of input they're "trained" on. They were just lazy about it, and now the consequences are too big and costly to be worth fixing.

Don't let them lie to you about how this works. They just don't want to take it offline (costs money) and spend the time and money actually doing a good job. They just don't want to admit that it wasn't ready to be released.

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aidanchaser

"We are sorry but our generate-words-without-context tool is now generating answers without context when people ask it questions"

"Okay so why do you have it answering questions?"

". . ."

I’ve said it before; AI is not being implemented to be good. It’s there to be an ‘act of God’ machine that can be blamed for corporate negligences.

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calligrafiti

They could train AI to give better answers. But that would require identifying good, useful information. And that would take a lot of work by people they’d have to pay. I know we’re on the “please let me infodump” site, but off tumblr subject matter experts expect to be paid—some quite highly. And the source of a lot of this information is someone’s intellectual property, which AI companies have been extremely reluctant to pay for. In short, AI was built by techbros who figured they could do it quick and cheap, and get out with their billions before AI all crumbled under its own insufficiencies.

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Nononono silica dust is a known and common hazard in construction and manufacturing. This is deliberate and horrifying neglect on the part of these employers. They could have properly implemented engineering controls, they could have required respirators on the shop floor. What you call "super asbestos" (silica dust) has been killing people for centuries, as long as people have been stonemasons really. OSHA has strict standards regarding the PEL for silica dust, but there is a dangerous lack of awareness and enforcement of safety protocols. This is not some new horror of the culture of capitalism, this is ordinary and awful and age old neglect.

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alder-knight

OSHA professional here with a "yes, and." (not to correct but to add context for those who are less familiar.)

it IS neglect, absolutely, but also, "engineered quartz"/"manufactured stone" is an industry term for a specific product. I would argue that there IS no safe way to work with this product as it's used now.

there are shops that cut the stone wet - which is more expensive but produces considerably less dust. the problem is the physical makeup of manufactured stone, which has MUCH higher amounts of silica than products that have been regulated in the past - think 93% silica. respirators do not cut it when the concentration is so high and any amount of exposure is dangerous. (PPE, personal protective equipment like respirators, should be a last resort for any hazards that cannot be mitigated in the working environment - so, in this case, they are necessary but not sufficient.) it is very common for construction job sites to skirt existing regulation, particularly smaller shops, but even when regulations are being followed, medical consensus is that there is no safe level of silica exposure.

this product has existed since the 60s. the issue is that its marketing as a designer product in kitchens has driven its uptake significantly over the past decade or so.

I want to be clear without overstating the danger. silicosis permanently disables you, accumulating damage before symptoms become evident. when you breathe in silica particles, they lodge in your lungs and cannot be cleared out by coughing. over time, the silica particles cause permanent scarring in your lungs which inhibits your ability to absorb oxygen. once the scarring has occurred, it cannot be undone. if you continue to be exposed, the body produces mucus to protect the lungs, which can eventually suffocate and kill you. treatment is solely based on symptoms management and trying to prevent the condition worsening. the only option for recovery is to get on the list for a lung transplant and hope your body doesn't reject it. silicosis is incurable.

silicosis deaths were dropping in the US, from 1,065 in 1968 to 165 in 2004. however, they are now climbing among certain sectors of the workforce.

the australian government recently banned "quartz"/"manufactured stone" as a construction product, based mostly on aggressive pressure and boycott threats from ALL the construction labor unions, starting with the stonemasons. this was not a sure thing, given significant lobbying against a total ban from well-financed manufacturing companies. the ban goes into effect on July 1, 2024.

industry lobbyists in the US are working overtime to make sure we don't follow suit. they've started in California. their tactic is to blame fabricators for not following safety guidelines (i.e., it's THEIR fault OUR product is killing their workers), and advocate for legislation reducing the percentage of silica in manufactured quartz products, in order to avoid an outright ban. my personal take, I agree with australia's decision. don't expect businesses to do the right thing, especially when we know the "right thing" isn't always enough. manufactured quartz is a luxury good - luxury in the sense of nonessential. if this product is killing people in their workplaces, ban the product.

(the American Lung Association has a widget to help you identify whether your workplace puts you at risk for silica exposure - if reading about New Exciting Diseases You Might Have Without Knowing It causes you anxiety, OR if you think your job or hobbies might be exposing you to silica, I recommend going through their short quiz.)

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Federal regulators on Tuesday [April 23, 2024] enacted a nationwide ban on new noncompete agreements, which keep millions of Americans — from minimum-wage earners to CEOs — from switching jobs within their industries.

The Federal Trade Commission on Tuesday afternoon voted 3-to-2 to approve the new rule, which will ban noncompetes for all workers when the regulations take effect in 120 days [So, the ban starts in early September, 2024!]. For senior executives, existing noncompetes can remain in force. For all other employees, existing noncompetes are not enforceable.

[That's right: if you're currently under a noncompete agreement, it's completely invalid as of September 2024! You're free!!]

The antitrust and consumer protection agency heard from thousands of people who said they had been harmed by noncompetes, illustrating how the agreements are "robbing people of their economic liberty," FTC Chair Lina Khan said. 

The FTC commissioners voted along party lines, with its two Republicans arguing the agency lacked the jurisdiction to enact the rule and that such moves should be made in Congress...

Why it matters

The new rule could impact tens of millions of workers, said Heidi Shierholz, a labor economist and president of the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning think tank. 

"For nonunion workers, the only leverage they have is their ability to quit their job," Shierholz told CBS MoneyWatch. "Noncompetes don't just stop you from taking a job — they stop you from starting your own business."

Since proposing the new rule, the FTC has received more than 26,000 public comments on the regulations. The final rule adopted "would generally prevent most employers from using noncompete clauses," the FTC said in a statement.

The agency's action comes more than two years after President Biden directed the agency to "curtail the unfair use" of noncompetes, under which employees effectively sign away future work opportunities in their industry as a condition of keeping their current job. The president's executive order urged the FTC to target such labor restrictions and others that improperly constrain employees from seeking work.

"The freedom to change jobs is core to economic liberty and to a competitive, thriving economy," Khan said in a statement making the case for axing noncompetes. "Noncompetes block workers from freely switching jobs, depriving them of higher wages and better working conditions, and depriving businesses of a talent pool that they need to build and expand."

Real-life consequences

In laying out its rationale for banishing noncompetes from the labor landscape, the FTC offered real-life examples of how the agreements can hurt workers.

In one case, a single father earned about $11 an hour as a security guard for a Florida firm, but resigned a few weeks after taking the job when his child care fell through. Months later, he took a job as a security guard at a bank, making nearly $15 an hour. But the bank terminated his employment after receiving a letter from the man's prior employer stating he had signed a two-year noncompete.

In another example, a factory manager at a textile company saw his paycheck dry up after the 2008 financial crisis. A rival textile company offered him a better job and a big raise, but his noncompete blocked him from taking it, according to the FTC. A subsequent legal battle took three years, wiping out his savings. 

-via CBS Moneywatch, April 24, 2024

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Note:

A lot of people think that noncompete agreements are only a white-collar issue, but they absolutely affect blue-collar workers too, as you can see from the security guard anecdote.

In fact, one in six food and service workers are bound by noncompete agreements. That's right - one in six food workers can't leave Burger Kings to work for Wendy's [hypothetical example], in the name of "trade secrets." (x, x, x)

Noncompete agreements also restrict workers in industries from tech and video games to neighborhood yoga studios. "The White House estimates that tens of millions of workers are subject to noncompete agreements, even in states like California where they're banned." (x, x, x)

The FTC estimates that the ban will lead to "the creation of 8,500 new businesses annually, an average annual pay increase of $524 for workers, lower health care costs, and as many as 29,000 more patents each year for the next decade." (x)

Clearer explanation of noncompete agreements below the cut.

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spriggan675

I think adults need summer vacation. Like let's just close down all our jobs for three months and play outside. Please. I'm so tired.

Love to see this post getting notes again. None of us are ok.

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orteil42

i may just be french but do americans really not get paid summer vacations? you don't go to the beach with your kids? "There is no federal or state statutory minimum paid vacation or paid public holidays" am i reading this right? like i'm not trying to rub anyone's face in it but you're just stuck in the rat race year-round until you're old and that's normal and accepted??? in the 21st century???

the really fucking offensive thing about this is that the US pretty much invented the family summer vacation in the 50s and 60s(actl you could argue even older than that given the vacation history of the Catskills and Poconos in the North East, but that was strictly regional), but then we let corporations roll it the fuck back through the 70s, 80s, and 90s such that it's NOW this mythical-fucking-thing USians only see in old tv shows and movies >:T

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gwydionmisha

A real thing that happened is me as a teenager.

I had what turned out to be a dangerous walking pneumonia, for a week, but the manager at Burger King wouldn’t let me off.  My breathing was very loud and ragged.  I was coughing on and breathing on the food.

I wasn’t allowed to leave.  I was told if i called out, I was fired.

So Im shuffling around wheezing loudly swaying with my high fever as I work drive thru by myself, and a paramedic walked in to order dinner.

He goes ballistic, My friends.  He demands to see the Manager.  he chews him out at the top of his lungs so the whole restaurant can here.  Guys working the back came up to watch.  Customers staring and thinking hard about the infectious food they were eating.  Dude losing his shit about how infectious I was and all the people management had been endangering for days judging from my breathing and I needed to be home on antibiotics RIGHT NOW and the health Department was going to hear about this.

I went home.  i got the week off.  Didn’t even need a doctor’s note.

Getting friends management doesn’t know to do this WOULD WORK.

Same manager not letting me take my influenza home a year later  despite repeated vomiting?  Threw up in front of customers.  Customers demanded money back and started threatening the manager with lawsuits.

I got to go home and got time off until I stopped vomitting.

GO AHEAD and THROW UP in front of Customers.  THEY will Complain.

Don’t be shy.  

They are supposed to let you stay home when you are sick.  Stop protecting management. (Hiding how sick you are protects management).  They are abusing you.  Let them reap what they sow.

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Labour is going to win the general election and then say this doesn’t go far enough.

"Sunak said ‘something has gone wrong’ since the pandemic to increase the number of people signed off work for long-term sickness" (metro)

staring into the camera like its the fucking office

"Mr Sunak also said, if the Conservatives win the general election, those who were still out of work after 12 months after support from a work coach will have "their benefits removed entirely"." (bbc)

just fucking shoot me now i hate it here

okay logging back in for one thing:

the government now has an open call for evidence on their proposed changes.

"This call for evidence is part of a wider suite of activity to reform the fit note and will act as a prelude to a full consultation on specific policy proposals which will be launched later this year."

it's all well and good for people to say "oh just because he said it, doesn't mean it will happen", as if the government hasnt happily let disabled people die from benefit cuts, lack of social care and oh yeah FUCKING COVID. have people forgotten that? 6/10 covid deaths in the uk were disabled people and nobody cared. so don't think they won't keep making it worse for us.

please read, please share and please if youre in the uk, please consider fighting with us to stop this.

i am so tired of watching my community die.

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