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"Why run, my little Phoenician?"
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nqsa

you know who’s gay? paul the real estate novelist who never had time for a wife and davey who’s still in the navy and probably will be for life

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mooncustafer

New headcannon: everyone in that song is gay except the Piano Man who has no idea he’s playing at a gay bar and the staff and regulars have a betting pool on how long he’ll take to finally figure it out. So far John is ahead.

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spacegay-yx

“The manager gives me a smile ‘cause he knows that it’s me they’ve been coming to see” also implies that the Piano Man is possibly an incredibly attractive but oblivious himbo, and if you listen to the rest of it imagining that, this all fits a little too well.

this makes too much sense. Also, the full quote is “Now John at the bar is a friend of mine. He gets me my drinks for free. And he’s quick with a joke or to light up your smoke. But there’s someplace that he’d rather be” Yes, your bed, he wants to be on your bed honey, that’s not a joke, he is flirting with you.

Lighting another man’s cigarette is some old-school gay cruising.

Billy Joel actually addressed this interpretation!

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knowlesian

honestly i am lowkey obsessed with how terrible we didn’t start the fire is at being a song while also being among the the catchiest songs ever 

this is a song that includes a man screaming CHILDREN OF THALIDOMIDE and then the next lyric is buddy holly, ben hur / space monkey, mafia

it is just one man, listing historical events more or less in order with no context or end and then layering in a chorus so catchy you will BEG YOUR BRAIN to stop thinking about it

i just appreciate that level of aimless, technically skilled chaos for some reason

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splend-42

We didn’t start the fire

We sat there and said ‘this is fine’

I am comically annoyed by that song because, indeed, it is a list of war crimes and tragedies framed by somebody repeating defensively that it isn’t his fault, couldn’t be helped, and that this mess is an intrinsic state of affairs natural to the turning planet. I usually only get to the first chorus before shouting WELL YOU DID FUCK ALL ABOUT IT HUH

“We didn’t start the fire”

IT WAS STARTED FOR YOUR BENEFIT AND YOU WARMED YOUR HANDS AT IT WHILE NOT OBJECTING TO THE ADDITION OF ACCELERANT AND LEAVING IT FOR OTHERS TO CLEAN UP

“We tried to fight it”

A PUBLIC ADMISSION OF INCOMPETENCE THEN

“It was always burning”

IT WAS NOT

“Since the world’s been turning”

YOU’LL NOTICE THAT NOWHERE IN THIS EXHAUSTIVE LIST IS ANY ACTION POINT OR ANYTHING

“On and on and on”

SO YOU JUST WANT A PARTICIPATION TROPHY THEN

(This is done for jokes but, damn, it’s actually in increasingly annoying to listen to somebody say for 3 minutes that his political stance is ‘no point trying to fight this fire’)

The song begins with events that happened in 1949. You know what happened in 1949 that is not explicitly detailed in the song? BIlly Joel, the writer of the song, was born. Half the stuff in the song happens when Billy Joel was a kid. There wasn’t much of anything he could have done about it. The second half of the song is stuff that happened in his adulthood, and yeah, he and his generation haven’t fixed everything but they’re working on it. They didn’t start the fire! The fire was going before they were born! They’re still fighting it!

He wrote the song because he was talking with a 21 year old (in 1989) and the 21 year old believed that the 80s were uniquely turbulent and chaotic and filled with change, and that life had been slow and stable and nice and “normal” and unchanging until like the 70s.

And that’s just not true.

There has always been cultural change, there has always been conflict from small and insignificant things to major world-shattering things. There have always been tragedies. There have always been stories that break the rules but strike a major chord. There was never a mythical time when everything was calm and stable and there was no injustice, and if you thought there was, it’s because you haven’t looked close enough. That’s the message of the song. The song is about looking at the past clear-eyed, instead of filled with rosy glasses.

And not all of the stuff he names is bad stuff! Some of it is good. Little Rock and the beginning of racial integration in schools, for example. Or the arrest and trial of Adolf Eichmann. Birth control is a definite positive. So is the opening of the Space Program to female astronauts (Sally Ride, you go girl!).

Everything changes. Things fall apart. Stability and “normality” are illusions. Some of the change is good, some of it’s bad, and some of it’s just different. Some of the things that happen are good, some of them bad … and even some of the bad things lead to good outcomes. (For example, political scandals like Watergate that get rotten politicians out of office.)

But it’s not hopeless because things have changed and are changing. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse, sometimes neither better nor worse just different. And Billy Joel wants us to look at the past with clear eyes, not rose-tinted nostalgia for “the simple time back when everything was stable and normal.”

I kinda dig Wikipedia's History Section on this song so I'll include it in its entirety:

Billy Joel conceived the idea for the song when he had just turned 40. He was in a recording studio and met a 21-year-old friend of Sean Lennon who said "It's a terrible time to be 21!". Joel replied: "Yeah, I remember when I was 21 – I thought it was an awful time and we had Vietnam, and y'know, drug problems, and civil rights problems and everything seemed to be awful". The friend replied: "Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's different for you. You were a kid in the fifties and everybody knows that nothing happened in the fifties". Joel retorted: "Wait a minute, didn't you hear of the Korean War or the Suez Canal Crisis?". Joel later said those headlines formed the basic framework for the song.[3]
Joel later criticized the song on strictly musical grounds. In 1993, when discussing it with documentary filmmaker David Horn, Joel compared its melodic content unfavorably to his song "The Longest Time": "Take a song like 'We Didn't Start the Fire.' It's really not much of a song ... If you take the melody by itself, terrible. Like a dentist drill."[4]
When asked if he deliberately intended to chronicle the Cold War with his song[5] he responded: "It was just my luck that the Soviet Union decided to close down shop [soon after putting out the song]", and that this span "had a symmetry to it, it was 40 years" that he had lived through. He was asked if he could do a follow-up about the next couple of years after the events that transpired in the original song, he commented: "No, I wrote one song already and I don't think it was really that good to begin with, melodically".[6]
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The Carnegie Hall recording of Billy Joel performing The Stranger on Spotify is amazing for a bunch of reasons but probably the best one is that when he announces "Scenes From An Italian Restaurant", a sweet, playful, thoughtful, by turns funny and up beat and melancholic and tragic song about how the Grease-like dream Americana for high school teenagers doesn't prepare people for the reality of adult life at all and sets them up to fail, some Brooklyn dude from the audience can be heard in the audience reacting to the title with "OHHHHH YEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!" like fuck yeah king go the fuck off, I love that song too, I'm so glad you're hyped to cry with me and Mr. Joel tonight

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