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"Why run, my little Phoenician?"
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Clarifying Ambivalence

And just to clarify, while I’ve written This, I still agree with what I wrote on 3.14.16 Here. I thought the ending was fine for what it was; understanding and considering valid the arguments of people who don’t(even agreeing with certain of their arguments) doesn’t mean I share their views completely. Homestuck’s ending wasn’t what I wanted entirely -I don’t think the stuff after Game Over justified such a drastic narrative move(though I enjoyed the stuff with Terezi using John to rewrite Continuity :]), I thought everybody except John and Roxy(and maybe Terezi) felt kind of off afterwards, and in leaving lots of ambiguity it necessarily skipped over some Characters I’m really invested in- but it was a “happy” ending, and it was entertaining, and the art and obvious hardwork that went into it was Majestic, and it felt, to me at least, like closure u_u It was about what I expected given what’s happened since Game Over; if not in its details, then in its broad strokes.

And while I think it clearly has flaws I don’t think it’s completely and irredeemably flawed, nor am I unsatisfied with it; I think there are clear ideas in the ending, clear thematic ties, likely emotional experiences it wished to resonate with or invoke, and certain ways it “worked” as a narrative. I don’t think it was entirely out of left field or horrible like a lot of folks think. But, like I said at the start(and maybe because I really enjoy symmetry :p) that doesn’t mean I can’t or won’t acknowledge the unsatisfying elements of it. That’s what the Ambivalence tag is all about; the ending was Ambivalent, and I’m Ambivalent about it :T

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I understand Homestuck meant a lot to you and it’s closing is emotional for many folks but just know it will never fully go away. I hope you will continue to enjoy what you love long after the official end and you make lots of good memories with where you go in life from here! Homestuck isn’t gone! It’ll always be there, right where you left it, to bring you back to that nostalgic time. And just think, Hiveswap will come out! I hope you’ll be able to enjoy it when it comes too.

I listened to King by Lauren Aquilina while I was making this and I thought it might make you feel better too.

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Okay but Rose was right.

There have been a lot of complaints with this set of upd8s that they didn’t wrap up people’s arcs right. That the archetypes weren’t being used as well as they could have been. That the narrative was badly paced or unrealistic. That the foreshadowing was ignored.

But Homestuck didn’t end as an epic. It ended as a wide-open snapshot into the lives of characters who exist not to fulfill their arcs or make good on their foreshadowing, but to be happy. And I too wanted to lie on the ground with a pillow on my face when I first saw the final page, but the more I think about it, the more I feel like that’s the only possible way this sprawling mess of a story could have ended.

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All right I guess I’m going to try to somehow articulate my thoughts about Vriska and her arc and her ending. Overall I would say that I’m feeling much more positive about the ending than I was last night, and I just rewatched Act 7 and in and of itself, it is just one of the most beautiful and achy perfect things I have ever seen. And all the parts involving Vriska are just so insanely epic and cool! 

And like, here’s the thing: the point of Vriska was always to turn narrative expectations on their head. With a character like Vriska (I mean, there has never really been a character quite like Vriska, but just stick with me here), you’re expecting to see them get their comeuppance, you’re expecting them to eventually run up against their limits and get taken down either by an underdog or their own hubris. But the infuriating and fantastic thing about Vriska is that her plans had a tendency to work out, her ego just kept getting bigger because she was just that good, and she easily killed the underdog character who tried to stand up to her. The one time she was taken by surprise and killed, it turned out that her death was so disastrous for the whole narrative that a huge chunk of the story had to be retconned just to ensure that she didn’t get that comeuppance after all.

And so part of me finds it very fitting that this was how Vriska’s arc ended, too. The plan she orchestrated more-or-less worked out without a hitch (I mean, as that one post went around showed, there were definitely differences between what she’d predicted and how things actually went down, but her plan still worked), she was obviously planning to sacrifice herself in a big hero gesture all along, and she did, and that was it. In the end, Vriska got exactly what she wanted, which was to be the most important person in Homestuck. I don’t think what she did was a huge sacrifice from her point of view. I don’t think it was particularly hard for her, because she’s always cared more about glory than like, continuing her life. Can you imagine Vriska living and joining the others in the happy new universe? I certainly can’t, and she probably couldn’t imagine that, either.

So–on the one hand, my gut-level response of “but that’s not FAIR” when I think about Vriska getting to die as the biggest hero in homestuck actually feels right to me, because that’s the reaction Vriska instilled in me all along. But on the other hand–

Vriska’s arc was absolutely one of the most important arcs in the comic, so much time was devoted just to her and what she struggled with and what she didn’t struggle with, Hussie obviously cared so much about this character that he turned his own affection for her into a running joke. So for all that struggle to climax in what was, essentially, just more of the same narrative that we’ve always seen for Vriska, feels cheap to me. Vriska choosing to sacrifice herself and be the big hero is her taking the easy way out , and on a meta level it feels like the narrative taking the easy way out, too. I don’t think we’re supposed to take Vriska’s big hero gesture to mean that this character is now redeemed or was right all along in her approach to things, but like, how are we supposed to take it? 

“Vriska’s plan works and saves the day and she sacrifices herself to defeat the Big Bad, which she had planned to do all along” is just… it’s so simple. It’s a simple and easy ending for the hardest and least simple character in the comic. There was SO much emphasis on retcon Vriska doing and saying terrible things, and it feels like all that foreshadowing for some kind of character growth just got tossed to the side. 

I think I could have been okay with Vriska saving the day and making a big heroic sacrifice if it had been more… I don’t know, unpredictable maybe? (I do wish that the whole ending had had more unpredictable elements to it, but I digress.) Or if anything had happened contrary to what she had planned for, or if she’d sacrificed herself in a way that was less grand but not less necessary. I don’t know! I have no idea how I would have ended her arc if it had been up to me, and maybe there is no right thing to do when you have a character like Vriska. But still, I do wish we had gotten something a little more complicated than what we got.

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GUYS GUYS

I THINK I FIGURED OUT WHAT THE JUJU IS

Its the webcomic.

Okau so to explain, when john stuck his hand into it, his hand showed up throughout the entire comic, then HE started to teleport throughout the comic.

In act 7, the kids were released from the juju. THEY WERE RELEASED FROM THE WEBCOMIC TO FINISH AND LEAVE THE GAME. THEN THEY TRAPPED LORD ENGLISH INSIDE THE JUJU, TRAPPING HIM IN THE WEBCOMIC FOREVER.

THE JUJU IS THE WEBCOMIC ITSELF, ITS COMIC-CEPTION.

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