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I really like how Nicky is NOT the white saviour but almost a "prisoner" of what they think he is and he will do because he is "like them". Meanwhile he is writing a letter to the love of his life, a marvelous MENA man.

Nicolò fights for what he thinks is right so is dressing up as a confederate soldier and infiltrating their patrols to kill them, because it's the sense of duty who spoke for him. But he is lonely and he writes to Joe:

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I’m completely baffled at how seriously some people are taking this throwaway line. For one thing, it sounds like a joke-y exaggeration. 

And for the second, has no one been in a long-term relationship before?  I mean, virtually one one has 50 years of perfection, but there’s an expectation that we’re going to see a depiction of 900 years of it? 

I understand it’s not going to be to everyone’s taste because there are plenty of idealistic romantics out there, and this is a fantasy series, but the human relationship element has generally been the non-fantasy element, no?

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Hello TOG and JoexNicky Fans! <333 Just wanted to ease the pain of some people who were not a fan of Joe and Nicky canonically taking a break for 6 years and hope that I can make you guys feel better by telling you a cute personal story that also involves a long break between an old family couple, show that it is perfectly natural and that it shouldn’t taint your view of their relationship at all.

First of all, I want to say that it is absolutely HEALTHY and NORMAL for long-term couples, especially old couples, to take long breaks like this and it doesn’t mean their love isn’t any less potent. (Note though that breaks doesn’t always work out, more so on younger couples.) I have two filipino grandparents who are the CUTEST and LOVELIEST couple who have been together for 40+ years who run a sari-sari store together at their home and spend time together everyday. A few years ago, they had a big fight, took a break and I kid you not, they did not talk to each other (only faint acknowledgments) for freaking 3 years WHILE living in the same house and lot. My grandma slept in the house and my grandpa slept in the store. During the break, my grandma focused on the store while my grandpa focused on housekeeping and did side hobbies. But most of all, they focused on themselves. At christmas after those 3 years, they finally got back together again and their relationship became so much stronger and lovelier. My grandma explained to me in a relationship talk that it was like they fell for each other all over again as when they were finally happy as their own person and content of being apart, they started yearning and wanting to be together again like two single friends who have feelings for each other. THIS> During their break, they were able to explore what not being together feels like, spend time on personal growth, and look at their relationship from a distance. Taking a break offers a degree of freedom and opportunity for self improvement that you don’t get when your knee deep together that can make the relationship stronger when you get back together. So with that, I just wanted to explain long breaks are completely normal and healthy, it can even make a relationship stronger, it doesn’t mean their love isn’t any less potent and you shouldn’t view it any less. So just to compare, it isn’t really that hard to believe that Joe and Nicky break took THAT long in terms of their background. My grandparents have been together for 40+ years, very old, took a break for 3 years, lived together and focused on quite mediocre stuff while Joe and Nicky have been together for 800+ years, literally immortal, took a break for 6 years, lived separately and focused on superhero immortal stuff while at it. So this 6 year break is really just a blip in their lovelife tbh and this shouldn’t taint your view of their relationship! (It also kinda reminds me of Bubbline from Adventure Time <3) 

So I hope this makes some of ya’ll feel better! <333

These are my lovely grandparents. <333 Sadly, this is my only picture I have of them one me lasasdasds. Today, they watch filipino soap operas all day everday at their store.

As I said, you’re such a precious soul

Thank you for sharing this beautiful story

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that line wasn't very funny, it was honestly stupid considering how long they've been together. it felt like straight male writers injecting angst nobody asked for into a happy and healthy queer relationship. it almost turned me off the entire series, tbh.

I mean, I think that the point is exactly to show how long they've been together. For them, 6 years is like 6 days for any other regular - mortal - couple. Are you honestly telling me, anon, that because a relationship is happy and healthy there's no disagreements? No fights? That's a little absurd, especially because they've been together for over 900 years. Plus, I need you to focus on the reason over the disagreement : *SPOILERS*

Joe doesn't want Nicky to kill more people than necessary because he doesn't want the world to take away from him his "honor, compassion and bravery". This is such a beautiful, intense message. It's not about the horrible, despicable people who are getting killed, but about the person who's doing the killing. If you read any comic book, most of the time that's the very moral dilemma every hero is confronted with (think of Batman, who refuses to kill, but pays the price by suffering so many losses). So you have Joe, who would die to protect an innocent person, and Nicky, who would kill to protect an innocent person. Both (re)actions are valid. Both of them are right. But it's such a different way to see things that it seems kind of obvious that it causes an argument between them.

But let's be honest : their passion and their fire, responsible for bringing out such strong reactions, are also the same things that keep their love alive and just as immortal as them.

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(Setting aside all the JoeNicky characterisation etc. in TTT#3 which I haven’t read and just gleaned from the spoiler tags so far)

Just thinking about Joe wanting to watch the historic moon landing because he’s an astronomy nerd but also because he wants to see/enjoy the magic of beautiful things. Staring at the moon when Nicky isn’t there with him.

The same Joe who would later go on to declare that “He’s the moon when I’m lost in darkness” several decades later in the back of a van surrounded by hostiles while Nicky sat across from him calling him an incurable romantic.

The steadfast moon motif is strong 🌙

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