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Anonymous asked:

If Daemon Blackfyre had won the First Blackfyre Rebellion. Do you think Bittersteel would have been satisfied with the rewards he was likely to receive? Or do you think he would have never been happy and would have wanted more?

Well, there’s a difference between getting power and keeping power, so those rewards wouldn’t necessarily have been secure.Stamping out the Blackfyre threat was a lifelong project forBloodraven, who had advantages in this area that Bittersteel did not.He had the institutional advantage of continuing a dynasty ratherthan uprooting one dynasty and founding another, and we know hepersonally uses magic to maximize the power of that position.

But regardless, he would probably never have been content.Essentially, Bittersteel is Daemon’s picture of Dorian Gray.Daemon is the iconic demonstration of this particular ideal ofmasculinity. His death in battle renders him a perpetual ideal:forever young and strong, untarnished by the disappointments andmundanities of rule. Bittersteel survives to define himself by theugly, bare reality of their bid for power. Aegor Rivers was clearlybrilliant, courageous, resourceful – and what then? There is noconstructive outlet for his abilities. There is war, and war, andwar. He has the enormous drive that went into forming the GoldenCompany, but by the end seems to have lived for little else. Hisindifference to Daemon II’s clairvoyance denotes a rejection of thetranscendence that empowers Bloodraven. His grim afterlife is thelogical endpoint of Daemon’s bold chivalric adventure: beneath thegold, the bitter steel.

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Anonymous asked:

If Aemon failed to save Aegon, history might lose a pretty song but wouldn't it be better for everyone else? Daemon gets Blackfyre & no deathbed legitimatization could that be enough to sway a Rebellion? Aemon vs Daemon!

Yeah, it’s a reasonable question. Aegon the Unworthy made the world aworse place while lived; Aemon the Dragonknight seems to havemade it a better one. But there is a concrete principle here asidefrom honor. If the kingsguard picks and chooses which kings they’reactually going to protect,then you have a system where security forces are effectivelyselecting the head of state, and nobody wants that.

It’s less of an issue in the main series because the kingsguardis in such bad shape overall, but that question of trust in thekingsguard is a live one throughout the Targaryen dynasty. Fireballturned traitor when he didn’t get the kingsguard appointment hewanted, which probably demonstrates why he wasn’t appointed to thekingsguard. Aegon IV really was a bloody-handed tyrant, but whathappens when the social class which produces most of the kingsguarddecides that Aegon V is a “bloody-handed tyrant”? Egg filled uphis kingsguard with commoners and (probably) bastards because he cared about meritocracy – but probably alsobecause they’re less likely to kill him in his sleep for caringabout meritocracy.

Given what we know of the facts here, this is a different questionthan Barristan’s regrets about having saved Aerys at Duskendale.That feat was something nobody but him could have done, and thus,that nobody would have expected him to do. If he hadn’tsuccessfully attempted it, it wouldn’t have drawn questions aboutthe kingsguard as an institution. The famous Dragonknight gettingdistracted by a butterfly during a public attack on the king is a lotsketchier. It’s more like the problem of Tywin’s defense of theRed Wedding: stop one unscrupulous tyrant now, allow the kingsguarditself to become an institution of unscrupulous tyrants later.

Now, if he could ensure a successful cover-up,there’s a reasonable argument that Aegon IV really was bad enoughto make this a fair question.

(That said, it might be the best piece of evidence against the“Daeron Falseborn” story, not because of what it says about hishonor, but because you’d expect a more calculated response fromsomeone with the sangfroid to undermine the monarchy like this for 25+years. Ned’s story about his snephew wasn’t half as bad as that,and look how nuts it made him in a few months at court.)

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Anonymous asked:

If Daenaerys's twin lived and was loyal to Daeron, exactly how would Daemon try to justify his rebellion? The twins were never rumored to be bastards and a true born son always comes before a bastard.

There weren’t rumors because he didn’t live. Daenerys was left alone because she was convenient for the narrative, and possibly because Daemon may have had feelings for her. But one attack on the queen’s fidelity is a bid to delegitimize all of her children.

It’s possible that Aegon IV having another son would have rerouted history away from the Blackfyre Rebellion entirely. I tend to doubt it because his behavior was all about playing people against each other to keep everyone responsive to his whims, but maybe in this alternative universe those whims are different and the fallout takes different shape, who knows.

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