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Fitting in Without Magic

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hi so I’m stubborn and trying to prove a point so reblog this post and write in the tags the best pixar movie and the worst (excluding sequels)

your choices are toy story, a bugs life, monsters inc, finding nemo, the incredibles, cars, ratatouille, wall-e, up, brave, inside out, and the good dinosaur.

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You know what should happen in Incredibles 2?

A familiar scene opens up before us with Frozone in his living room, clicking the button on the remote to bring out his super suit. As expected, it’s not there, and just as expected, he begins his legendary spiel.

“HoneEEEEY, WHERE’S M-” he’s cut off as his super suit is flung at his face from off screen.

There’s a cut and now you’re viewing a colorful feminine figure appearing in the hallway.

“I ain’t gonna let you go out without me this time.” Frozone’s wife says, in full superheroine garb, snapping her fingers to produce a few small electric sparks around her hands.

Share the frick outta dis so the disnay company can see this.

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c0ffeekitten

SUPER MEGA ULTRA LIGHTNING BABE

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lacyazlin

an Incredible theory

Right, so I don’t have any programs to pull out the GIFs for anything from the movie and I haven’t found them online. 

But I and my fiancee were going over some lines from the Incredibles Movie and we caught something Edna said, which struck us as odd…

“Your outfit will be ready before you next assignment.”

NEXT ASSIGNMENT

How did she know he was getting missions? Mr Incredible never said he was taking missions, in fact he was denying he was even moonlighting as a hero at this point. 

Unless. 

She knew Syndrome. 

Now we know Syndrome has money, he has power, and he’s been trying to set himself up as a Hero. If he’s been using his resources to find all these heros it wouldn’t take much for him to also look up the person who was their costume designer. 

And he would very likely have approached her. After all, he’s wanting to set himself up as a hero.

Now Edna, she’s been working with heros her entire career. She knows a real hero when she sees one. And we also know she too is in a position of power and has her own resources to draw from. It stands to reason that she would very likely read Syndrome pretty easy and know that 2+2 equals fish in this case. BUT, she’s not a super herself. She’s also in hiding. If she refused to make Syndrome’s outfit for him he could very likely cause her a LOT of trouble. 

Edna can’t do much, she is not in a position to be able to tell anyone about what’s  going on, supers are not in good standing and ones disappearing, well no one is searching for them at all. What else can she do?

She can manipulate things as she sees the opportunity show itself to her.

Mr Incredible comes to her about repairing his costume. He’s obviously on Syndrome’s hit list (hell she likely got Syndrome monologuing and knows everything going on) 

She already had the outfits for the rest of his family ready before Helen even got there. 

She knew their powers. She knew the best things to say to Helen that would get her to go help her husband. 

She placed a tracking device without telling Mr Incredible in all the suits. She put that device into his suit apparently BEFORE she made the ones for his family.

She gave them the resources, put them into the path that would allow them the best chance of stopping Syndrome, because she knew this situation needed real heros. 

And she did one other thing for them. One major thing that goes against everything she is so vehemently against.

She gave Syndrome a Cape. 

I have never seen meta on The Incredibles before and I LOVE IT.

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sperari

This makes me happy and it’s about to make programmerdad happy too.

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"You’e weak! And I’ve outgrown you."

My brother called me yesterday with a stunning revelation he’d had about this scene: intentional or not, this is a perfect commentary on the superhero genre of today, and about one of its greatest weaknesses.

He’s calling Mr. Incredible weak here because the man refused to do one thing—and that was to kill someone. And because he sees him as being unable to kill, he sees him as weak—and childish. “I’ve outgrown you.” Now he is in the realm of “mature” superheroes, where Superman has to snap a man’s neck and Catwoman has to shoot Bane, where the purity of a woman forged by clay is unrelatable and marriage is nonconducive to an interesting story. His is a world where superheroes die to make villains seem impressive, a world where a dark and gritty realism is more important than a fun and adventurous fantasy. 

In the end of this movie, though, the Omnidroid isn’t beaten by Mr. Incredible finding Syndrome and beating an explanation out of him to stop the robot; they solve it through brainwork, audacity, and a fun and creative action sequence. Syndrome dies in the end, yes, but that’s primarily because he keeps trying to push his view, and ends up destroying himself.

But this is Syndrome being Zack Snyder or Frank Miller, and believing that the fun adventures of yesteryear are childish fantasies that need to be left behind: ours is a world where to relate to a superhero, we have to see that superhero be unable to accomplish his task completely, where he has to settle and accept a compromise in order to preserve the greater good. We can’t admire them for being able to do what we cannot—we have to grow up and see that they’re just like us, they’re nothing special. Not really. And that is what true maturity is. A truly mature Avatar would kill the Firelord, a truly mature Superman would have no choice but to fight in the middle of a city, and video games need to be about cover-based shooting and military combat in the real world. With quick-time-events!

And of course, that’s all complete bullcrap, and the sooner that mentality gets sucked into a jet engine, the happier I’ll be. 

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Yes, YES, absolutely. I love the philosophy behind this movie in celebrating the light, warm, wholesome side of superheroism.

And I love how well Syndrome represents basically ‘toxic nerd culture’. When he can’t see superheroes as people he relates to any more, he regresses and sees them as playthings instead. He acts like these real people are action figures for him to do with as he pleases, as visually demonstrated by the scenes where he holds people in zero-point stasis and moves them about, frozen in stationary action poses.

He refuses to accept any perspective but his own. He talks about the superheroes like they’re comic book characters to him - like when he finds out Mr Incredible and Elastigirl got married, or in the interrogation scenes where he seems to be critiquing the ‘new’ Mr Incredible and berating him for having let him down. He talks about it like it’s a character reboot he doesn’t agree with. Plus his whole mantra of providing (selling) superpowers to everybody, so nobody will be ‘special’ any more, entirely designed to take away the specialness of what he coveted and couldn’t have, just as many guys entrenched in nerd culture refuse to let anyone else share it and act like it’s a secret club only for them.

Syndrome represents arrested fanboy development in which he refused to grow up. He carries this resentment from childhood all because his favourite hero actually had other things to do with his life than to cater to him. Mature people have responsibilities, actual jobs, they age and have families of their own, that’s what mature means and it’s what Mr and Mrs Incredible stand for, and everything that Syndrome echews in favour of being somebody’s ‘arch-nemesis’. He still thinks that maturity is dark, brooding, sexy (I mean the person he picked as the front for his scheme, not him), and about how much collateral damage you can cause. But he’s just a manchild living out a comic book dream, creating his own fictional life story (his robot is designed to be impervious to superpowers and stage a disaster that only he can defuse, thus saving the day - the whole thing is playing pretend and endangering thousands of people’s lives). Kids like to play at being heroes and stopping disasters, but because he refused to grow out of any of this, he acquired the means to do it for real and became a murderer in the process. All because he couldn’t accept that he was, essentially, wrong. By refusing to believe that his childlike hero-worship was over the top, he buckled down into it and continued to play pretend as a child would. Another aspect of maturity is natural change and Syndrome rejects it just as Mr Incredible and all the other supers accepted their reprimand (by having to go undercover and live as normal people) and adapted to it even though they didn’t want to.

My favourite line in the whole film is when Bob threatens him and Syndrome shrugs it off saying, “Nah, that’s a little dark for you,” because he’s all at once criticising Mr Incredible’s ‘character’, evaluating a real person in front of him as though he has him pegged on a morality chart, and you know he could back it up with some creepy nerd facts like “In 1964 you said the same thing to Lord Heatwave and you were totally bluffing”, as though Bob is predictable, unchanging, completely fictional to him, AND he’s being dismissive of Bob’s personal life, he thinks Mr Incredible’s gone soft, weak, become a family man, because he thinks his former hero needs to be cool and gritty and running away from explosions, not an actual person with depth and goals and feelings - which is, of course, why we as an audience like Mr Incredible and his whole family, thereby proving Syndrome and the Dark Gritty Reboot culture wrong simply by having watched and enjoyed the movie they were in.

man i should show this to my head of program

I am so looking forward to Incredibles 2.

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