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Kahlan [nb/ace/demiro; they/them; 43; Canadian-born HK Chinese] Multifandom blog that runs on 96% queue.
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You want more minority representation in media but if they have flaws its problematic and if theyre perfect theyre a patronizing mary sue. If they crack under the pressure of the conflict the author thinks that minority is weak and if they overcome the adversity they must be a neoliberal bootlicker who thinks real world bigotry is a matter of personal attitude. You want minority characters but if theyre a villain its violently problematic and if theyre the protagonist then we circle back to the very first sentence. If theyre a side character theyre being sidelined and the author is once again bigoted, and don't you know that every single minority character death is unilaterally bigoted, without exception? You want more minority characters but if their identity is a big part of their personality or struggles then they're problematic and if their identity has nothing to do with their personality or struggles then the author is tokenizing that identity for clout. You want more minority characters but every time theres a minority character who doesnt have every single experience that you have then you tell the author to kill themselves on twitter. You wonder why not even minority authors will write minority characters.

I would ask you to read Catch-22, but you'd just call the military base problematic.

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I am not going to lie to you. When Russell told me that we were putting a ramp in the TARDIS, I cried. I did. He actually told me about a fan who had contacted him, who was a wheelchair user, and said how much he admired Russell’s work. He said, “Even though I can’t get in the TARDIS, because it’s not wheelchair accessible, I just love it.” And Russell was like, “So, we change that instantly. We change that.” When he told me that story, that really hit me straight in the heart. I know what that will mean for the disabled community, and many disabled Whovians who haven’t had that. -Ruth Madeley

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bucksboobs

Yes we need more chaste twee baby gay romances like heartstopper and yes we also need more shows where men fuck raw to express their love for one another like Élite and yes we need more toxic gays having hate sex like Interview with the Vampire and yes we need more incidental gay characters like the dads in cartoons like Owl House.

It's not a competition! It's a hoard and I'm like a gay little Smaug.

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cir-c

the normalization of porn in mainstream media is a weird take to have

Normalization of gay desire and yes, even gay sex, is paramount to gay liberation actually.

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doberbutts

"The normalization of porn in mainstream media" listen the likes of True Blood and Game of Thrones already did that, we're just asking for some onscreen sex to be gay this time. I'm out here watching straight couples have wild vampire sex and full frontal nudity while talking about wanting to fuck a bull and I think asking for a single gay scene is not that big of a request in comparison.

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weepingwitch

it's so funny when ppl"s defence of no fat characters existing in video games is "uh they wouldn't be able to physically do the things the character does" like damn i hate to break it to you but skinny bitches can't physically cast a fireball in real life either but nobody has a problem with that

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tkingfisher

Seriously, my wish-fulfillment isn’t that I’m skinny, it’s that people who look like me also get to have cool-ass adventures.

If you’re really that worried about my character’s fat ass being able to fit in tight spaces or whatever, I’m pretty sure they make a Wild Shape for that.

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neil-gaiman

Oh, hm, also, I wanted to thank you for something specific regarding Saraqael' disability portrayal in the show.

I'm also a wheelchair user, and I can stand up of my wheelchair, and non wheelchair users are most often times confused because they think all wheelchairs users are paralysed and can't walk or stand up, when it's not the reality of many of us (that we can walk or stand up, that it's a question of should or should not and of how long until it's too painful or too dangerous for many of us)

In the scene where Michael and Uriel are heading towards the headquarters to see what the alert is about, we see Saraqael in front of the Earth and even if it's extremely brief, we see them a little bit stand up, like, still on their wheelchair, but a little bit up, to show where the miracle is from.

It's a very small detail but as a wheelchair user it made me tear up a little, to see this level of I'd say authenticity regarding disability as well!

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I'm glad.

Most of that came from Liz Carr who is, in real life, a wheelchair user. I wrote Saraqael with the idea of an acerbic, practical angel. Someone who had worked with her suggested we cast Liz Carr, and I loved that idea. I called Liz and offered her a flying wheelchair in Heaven, and miracles to make places wheelchair accessible when on Earth.

(To Amazon's credit, when I told them about the casting, and that we'd need more VFX money to make the wheelchair hover and the miracles happen, they agreed to it without hesitation.)

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neil-gaiman

Hello, Mr. Gaiman. I just wanted to say how very much it meant to me to see disabled angels in the show.

I grew up in an oppressive religion that preached everyone would automatically lose any disability in heaven, which sounds nice if you don’t think about it, but to a disabled person who wouldn’t even BE me without them, I was terrified. Even when I still believed in it, part of me thought it wouldn’t be too bad to go to hell because at least I’d be myself.

It was to the point where when I mentioned something about my disability, unprompted, a member said “Well, you’ll be perfect in heaven.”

So after all that nonsense it really meant the world to me to see a powerful angel in heaven who was allowed to be disabled, it has been healing my heart and making me smile for weeks. 💝

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Steven Universe: Eh, I don't really feel like saying "girlfriend" or "wife". Maybe they're together. They have a special connection...

(gets violently shoved aside)

The Loud House/Craig of the Creek/The Owl House: Pfft, amateur. "My GIRLFRIEND Sam and I..." "I'm texting my GIRLFRIEND, mind your business." "Luz's new GF showed her..."

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raulziito

Can we not do this thing? Do you realize that Rebecca had to fight for what we got with Rupphire and literally risked her job? and Pearl and Rose. Like, there is no need to knock other shows down because of Lumity.

These kids today, I tell you what. In my day you had to bury your girlfriends under subtext and then end the series when the truth was revealed.

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renthony

Risked her job, hell, it's an open secret now that the Rupphire wedding (which, may I remind folks, was the first queer wedding in a kids' cartoon, which is a BIG DEAL) is why everything about the rest of the series felt rushed. They had to scramble to tell the rest of the story because they took a gamble and the network retaliated by shortening their production time.

Rebecca Sugar and the crewniverse risked the entire show getting flat-out cancelled in order to show that wedding, only for people to say it "wasn't progressive enough" and was "giving in to stereotypes" to put Ruby in a wedding dress. Never mind that Ruby kept getting dubbed over as a guy in localization, Sapphire was unmistakably feminine in every version, and putting Ruby in the dress was a flagrant way to say, "fuck you, you can't pretend this is a straight couple; this is a queer couple and a queer wedding."

Dana Terrace has said that The Owl House only exists with its intended queerness because of what Rebecca Sugar and her team accomplished with Steven Universe. Hell, there are multiple members of the Steven Universe team who went on to work on the other shows mentioned in the OP--Steven Sugar, for example, who is Rebecca Sugar's brother and inspiration for SU in the first place (as well a background artist on the show), is currently an artist on The Owl House. There are people who got their start on Steven Universe who now only have the opportunity to tell more queer stories because of Steven Universe's success.

I'm not even 30 years old yet and I'm still old enough to remember when being gay was fully illegal in the United States. Not gay marriage, but literally just BEING GAY. It wasn't that long ago, and the fact that today in 2021 I can turn on the TV and watch gay cartoons intended for children? I never thought I'd see it. Fucking ever.

So let's stop pitting queer creators and media against each other, shall we?

So often older shows that seem pitifully lackluster by today's audience's standards were hard-fought, BIG-ASS DEALS in their contemporary context. (And for the record, calling SU or something like Korra 'older' to me feels bizarre af, I'm 28, this is all new to me in some ways. This is all extraordinary and the opposite of lackluster.) What you're seeing is an extraordinary amount of progress over the last mere ten years. Don't knock it.

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spoonylu

Literally saw a bumper on Nickelodeon celebrating Pride Month last year and had my mind blown. This would've been UNHEARD OF when I was a kid. No one ever talked about queerness AT ALL in kids' cartoons, gay people were a JOKE in the 90s. Zoomers don't know how good they have it.

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gracerings

I sometimes feel that this endless discussion about what is and what isn’t ‘good queer rep’ is poisoning art. just let art breathe, let queer stories exist, even if you don’t like them or they don’t represent you personally. queer media undergoes so much unnecessary scrutiny because there’s this distorted perception that every piece of queer fiction ever put into the world needs to represent every queer person. and that’s not only impossible, but also unfair to the creators and the story itself. it’s okay to just not vibe with a piece of queer media, but please consider that it may be a matter of personal taste and preference, rather than an objective flaw in the portrayal of the community

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lesserjoke

Today I learned that Kronk from The Emperor's New Groove is canonically Jewish in the spinoff series.

Here's the link to the whole challah recipe, before anyone asks: https://twitter.com/disney/status/1411022232445464585

Blocking the haters who have opened up their assholes to express the wet fart of an opinion that Jews are an unrealistic addition to a children's comic fantasy series whose major initial premise was a dude being turned into a llama ✌️

I would like to state that the Incan Empire lasted until the mid 1500s, and the Spanish Inquisition / expulsion of Jewish people from Spain and Portugal occurred in the 1400s, after which a contingent of migrants could have reasonably fled to the Americas on Portuguese trading vessels that were already operational in the region and moved to inland South America / Qusqu where the story took place.

Kronk CAN VERY WELL be not only Jewish but also a survivor of the Inquisition itself.

This is completely historically feasible and haters can eat my toes.

The Emperor’s New Groove movie had an electric floor waxer in it

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people will look at a 25+ age LGBT person and say “what do you mean you’re not interested in watching this very sanitized story about two 14 year olds having their first kiss and falling in love DO YALL WANT REPRESENTATION OR NOT 😡”

why do yall act like lgbt media for kids without them fucking on screen is “sanitized” why are you all so weird

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pettydavis

how do you miss the point this bad??? theyre talking about how ppl think ADULT lgbt ppl should be satisfied with stories for and about kids/teens when SURPRISE maybe grown lgbt ppl actually want to watch things for and about GROWN PPL.

and further, sanitisation does not always mean fucking. yall are so obsessed with sex in media but the truth is that most gay media for all of us does not reflect the full breadth of our experience. characters not being allowed to talk about WHY theyre attracted to someone, characters not being allowed to show a full range of emotions, not being allowed to have faults, plots always only about romance (because for gays there’s only two experiences, romance and suffering), characters always being conventionally attractive, main characters always being WHITE, stories washed of any reality outside of the tragic things we go through, like cmon i know yall have bigger brains than this.

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wizardnuke

LESS movies about the lgbtq experience MORE movies about people who just happen to be lgbtq. is it really that hard to understand

I don't wanna see another story abt a teenage boy coming out to his parents and closed mouth kissing his boyfriend at prom where's my spy thriller action heist movie w a cast made entirely of dykes and femme gay men you know what I'm fucking talkinf about. I'm tired of The Queer Struggle I struggle every stupid day I know what that's all about and honestly none of the coming out stories are cathartic or whatever to me. I don't care. I wanna see a nonbinary person fight a dragon

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