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*::..Just a feels-atm-mess-blog of stuff and thangs of ships, parallels, characters. overanalyzing. -2010 ..::* // My thoughts, look for #*anyshow and my edits #m anyshow // do what u love // damn u tv gods. Always here, always 'liking'
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Oh man!! But I love your snarky meme posts! Haha I think your right though, avoid discourse! I haven’t heard your thoughts in a while though, with 10x18 only a few days away now (finally, thank god), I would love to get a tiny dose of your lovely positivity!

tbh i’ve been full of so much dread and anxiety the past couple weeks, not because of the episode (still positive af about that), but because of the bad fandom energy (which, even when i am actively avoiding it still manages to seep into my line of sight 😒), but i was just talking to my partner about how fun it’ll be to watch twd from start to finish once the final season drops, and how much fun we had binge watching it originally (he’s who i started the show with), and i was reminded that the show used to actually be a good time. i had forgotten how much fun it was to watch with my partner and make dumb 30 rock references every five seconds, and laugh at parts that definitely weren’t supposed to be as funny as we made them (during the part when jadis threw rick into the pit with winston the art piece walker we laughed so hard people upstairs came down and asked, “aren’t you watching walking dead? what the fuck is so funny??”). that’s the energy i want to get back, and the energy i want to cultivate as we get through these bottle episodes and get into s11. caryl is on track to be canon, which is something i v rarely get in the things i ship, so added drama doesn’t bother me. and at the end of the day, what’s the absolute worst thing that can happen to caryl? they don’t go canon officially, which would be a drag, sure, but that doesn’t mean we don’t still have ten years’ worth of fandom content, and a community that can still have fun with it. (bc i know it’ll make ppl upset that i said that, i /do/ think it’ll be canon, but if by the end it turns out i was wrong i’m not gonna like, die or something. fic is always more creative and entertaining than the og source anyway, and we’ll always have that)

it’s kind of astonishing how unpleasant people can make a fun thing be, and for what? what does it accomplish? if your entertainment is no longer entertaining you, and is, in fact, making you bonkers on the internet, maybe it’s time to find something new to spend your time on, if only for your mental health. i want to unabashedly enjoy myself again. i want to write explicit porn and Extra(tm) af au fics, and i want to laugh inappropriately during heartfelt scenes bc walkers are falling off a cliff in slow motion and it’s the funniest thing i’ve ever seen. i don’t want to dread episodes anymore. why do i dread the show i use to escape my irl bullshit?? that’s so ridiculous!

i am brain crazy and, as of late, chronically physically ill, so real life is v often a fucking drag. i don’t need to bring that into the space i use to get a break from the heavy stuff. and ik i won’t always be able to. ik i’m gonna get stressed about plot stuff, and there are gonna be fandom things that’ll make me upset, but i am going to do my absolute best to be as positive as possible and have as much fun as i can, bc i watch this show bc i enjoy it, and sometimes i need to remind myself of that

so as for 10x18? bring it on. i know that it’s all going to be resolved (probably in like, two seconds, bc that’s the whole point of “diverged”, do ppl keep forgetting that??), and i know that daryl isn’t going to end up with this rando bc we literally have a spin-off (do ppl keep forgetting that??), so who cares if there’s tension? plots have conflict, my dudes, and mb it won’t always be conflict we like, but the fun thing about a tv show is that there is more content to come, and things can change on a dime. and besides, whatever we don’t like we can change on 9lives and ao3. i am hype, chill, and stanning my showrunner, and am just gonna ride the wave

and while i can’t make y’all do anything, i strongly suggest you do, too

-diz

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If Andrea or Jessie had lived Do you think Richonne would have still happen? I'm sorry its not a caryl question I'm just curious about your opinions on Richonne, Jessie and Andrea.

Ooh a Richonne-like question. I like Richonne!

 Hmm 🤔 kinda hard question. Very what if ..AU.  So first of all we're talking tv versions and not comic's. 

Uh ok so if Andrea lived ... I think if we still had darabont showrunning we would had Rick and Andrea as a couple. He seems very set to the comic books. Mazara...killed her off at the last minute I think. I was upset with that.  I didn't like Andrea that much but felt she deserve better. But Andrea being around in s4, I think it would really change the show under Gimple's direction. Idk about Rick/Andrea. It's also that Andrea died and her comic version plots were spread to Carol, Michonne and Sasha. But there's also a thing of writers could not have Andrea be so similar to comic Andrea later on. Idk I think it would be a really different show. 

Also from Gimple's writing, he noticed and liked the idea of Richonne. Maybe it depends on if Gimple liked Richonne story potential and chemistry more or him wanting to go by the comics more. Whichever he wanted. Oh! imo I think it still would be Richonne to be canon. well I mean I would ship them, because Andrea had relationships with governor and Shane, who are like villians of the show and to Rick. It's unfortunately it like makes it hard to root for Andrea and Rick or even to predict that to happen based on what the writers did. Seems like it's not something to root for? for Rick a leading man to be with. Also s3 they were separated a lot while Richonne got to know each other and at the same place. Richonne were bonding and were interesting together.

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So if Jessie had lived in s6. Its hard to think of it. She's very minor character to me. If she lived I think she would die later on. I think if she lived for another season, the Rick/Jessie plot would drag out and I think idk Gimple would really explore Rick being mentally unhealthy and rebounding n missing Lori. I think Richonne would still happen but become canon later on..or differently. I think Gimple always had in mind to want Richonne to be endgame. 

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Um so .. I just thinking about caryl and their arcs and spin-off. I was thinking if Carol and Daryl arcs mean a lot to you and care about a lot of them with the kids and/or TF(or preferred how the story ends on twd show), then you could focus on s11 and hoping everyone's story ends well on the Twd show. Just focus on s11/final season.

And then have time to think about the Caryl spin-off show as a different thing/enty or expectations. Idk like you can just hope for Caryl being happy and the end in the show. That it's good in s11/twd series finale. Then you can either move on or keep watching/being invested in the spin-off with Caryl.

But like .. That's how it is right now.. Everyone's doing one step at a time, and focus on 10c, s11, and Caryl spin-off show. And like ofc if you don't like the story or the ending there's always fanfiction.

I know it sounds like a Debbie downer.. But idk how this spin-off goes for and Idk if I can handle caryl away from TF and feeling it's ooc. Or how spin-off goes like if its monster of the week episodes and not connecting with the grimes/TF/Rick. (Sounds boring and different tbh.) I'm hoping s11b/f would go well. And I'll just focus on 10c and s11 ending good for my faves right now. :)

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Andrea opinion on the forum and Connie...

I think everyone said it all. I didn't like how even in s1 where women had to do the cleaning and the men hunt or guard. The show was already stereotypical on gender roles. Idk ...so it was jarring like in s2 Andrea wanting to learn to shoot like it was a bad thing(I feel realistically that would be true that anyone would want to learn to shoot right away in the real world/Apoc) but the writers make her dumb or in hard spot by messing up and almost shooting Daryl. And then she had sex with Shane, who fandom/comic fans are like that's a villain. Also ...the show doesn't do romance or sex a lot so..that's like a random sex scene there. It's all a mess what they did for Andrea. I guess a lot of hate or disappointment comes from comic fans venting and ranting. I'm glad ..by s3 everyone's at least learning survival things/killing walkers/shooting. I was tired of Andrea but was really upset and sad that she died in s3. It was like she coulda had been a good written character in end of s3.(Barely developed Michonn3 and Andrea's friendship) I was really annoyed with Mazzara but he left then. It's weird. I can't imagine tv -Rick and Andrea. lol Richonn3 developed and evolved naturally so well. Kinda OT....but it's kinda how I feel about Connie..on how I had high hopes on Connie but I'm already disappointed with how the writers did with her and on the sisters relationship. I want it to be MORE. I guess I'm picky. I'm like not interested in the idea of Connie anymore. I guess I meant that I want better writing.

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Danai saving the show again and again. (She made the last Richonne scene the way it is.) It’s like the writers wanna throw themselves under the bus or just wanna point out how great Danai is.

 UGH This makes me nervous and doubtful about the show and movies. Danai knows ...really gets the point of the show’s point and characters’ relationships and make it meaningful. And the scene of Michonne trusting Virgil randomly but him saying mercy quote makes it a bit believable. 

If Michonne’s in the movies...maybe Danai could help them again...if she wants to.

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I have an issue. And that issue is Judith Grimes. For those that have seen the Richonne chat, I've made it clear that her attitude turns me off. Sunday's episode, though?

"I knew RJ was good for something!"

I damn near slapped my tv. This shit is tired and so am I.

I'm tired of a 10 year old being treated as if she was the same level as an adult. Yeah, she can fight walkers. So could Carl, except Carl had rules, a curfew, BOUNDARIES.

It's obvious they are setting her up to take on the lead someday. While that's fine (for some), the progression of her character means very little if she's already a brilliant, adorable, a bad-ass born leader who can do no wrong.

Her smarm and her sarcasm would be bad enough, but the main target always seems to be her mother. It seems out of character for Michonne to accept and even encourage Judith when she acts this way. Carl did that in Clear and Michonne took charge and told him how things were. And. He. LISTENED.

Judith can be tough and be respectful. It just isn't required of her. A lot of folk like it but I'm not here for Mary-Sue Grimes. It's not cute.

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ahh man seriously wtf. The focus on Caryl from s9 to s10.

We get a new showrunner for s9 and we didn’t know what to expect and including timejumpS and changes. s9 is like they almost killed the Caryl ship but didn’t. s9 was in a way a subtle angst caryl thing. Then Carol is back in ASZ/the main storyline and broke up with E, which made Carylers hopeful. And now s10 is like whamo a bunch of Caryl(Carol and Daryl) scenes we don’t usually ever get in a season ...except s2. S10 feels like a Caryl season or a Caryl show.

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About the trailer

I don’t know , I like caryl parts but do I hope for more caryl ?

I like that Carol is back in the game, she is part of the main story and we will get Carol vs Alpha

But my trust is not there much , why Mich n keke? I laughed but I didn’t like it.

That just shows AK likes to pair up randomly just for surprises. What is the meaning of Mich going thru so much without Rick to be with Zeke who has just  separated from Carol.It’s messed up , more soap opera than TWD

I am hopeful for Caryl because Kang is invested in Daryl and his development and a lot of things that happened in S9 but if they can spoil RM like that they can do the same to Caryl…oh wait that has already happened in S9

I guess we will survive whatever it is , caryl forever

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after thoughts on 9x05 and movies

ok so i had some time to think about 9x05-Rick’s leaving and the 3 tv Rick movies. I can’t believe my AU fanpic is possible. lol I mean we got that helicopter hint. I still don’t know what to think and my mind is racing. 

So I feel mixed about Rick’s “ending”. I understand why some want Rick to die because of the episode being like series finale with so many callbacks and guest stars, and stuff! He would die from strong writing-wise. But I’m also glad Rick lives because it’s like it’s ok to watch TWD now, if I want to, and there’s a high chance that Rick’s story ends when TWD ends. And that Rick may get his happy ending. The hero finds his family and lives happily ever after, making Carl proud. I get the mix feels. It reminded me of TWDG where in s2 there’s a choice in the game to kill or leave Kenny for his ending of the story. In s3, there’s another part of his story (if you stay with Kenny through the year), he dies from a car accident. So there’s like these two Kenny-endings kinda close together but it’s like which ending is better for Kenny’s story..in your opinion? Either way, Kenny dies, ....I would chose the “ending” in s2, not s3. It’s was so emotional impactful and great scene. But it’s all stories too..there’s also that option as a fan to choose your ending or fanfiction your ending. So, it’s like me saying Kenny never dies and he’s still with Clementine and AJ. Anyways, so it’s hard to trust writers, I guess, to keep hoping for Rick’s story to end well. 

The 3 movies thing. I was disappointed with it but I realized. I don’t know much about it but I think the 3 movies doesn’t change anything to what we know already. We don’t know how Rick’s story ends now that he’s still living. We still have to keep hoping for the best from the writers to write a good Rick’s ending. Like I thought AL would do other things till the show’s finale but the movies are just added parts to this idea. It’s like yay more Rick. But who knows what the writers will do and I think AL still can do other projects too.  I think the movies are one per year as the show keeps going till the series finale will be the last movie as Richonne reunites or Rick/Richonne appears in finale ep. ...OMG I just realized there’s something about three years. NR and MMB signed for 3 years deal to do the show and got the pay (if the show ends earlier or something they still get the pay.) There’s a three Rick-movies thing. So yeah I think there’s one movie per year till the third year. That third year might be when the series end. Season 12. However, it’s really early to speculate on these movies because I think I think it’s not set in stone yet. If they start filming, I’m guessing it’s in March.

The Rick-less episodes of TWD it’s weird to think of it. It’s not really based on the comics anymore. It’s like a spinoff. There’s no Grimes boys in the show. The show used to be kinda close to the comics and now it’s bit more different. The show is kinda going with the comics but they’re using different characters and changing the plots a bit. I think the only thing that feels close to the comics rn is the Michonne searching and *finding her daughter Elodie. Or it’s something that I look forward to. It feels like now there’s TWD-”spinoff” show and TWD (true..show) movies with Rick. There’s two things now. Well I see TWD as Rick’s story. So it’s like TWD became 3 movies(mini-series?) and the show is a spinoff. But eh even that Rick going missing or whatever isn’t part from the comics. Anyways I feel that tv-TWD true story is wherever Rick is at.

So, I know I’m burnt out from AMC trolling and pr like omg this year was so crazy for the (any) fandom ever. Like damn, AMC’s baby is TWD, this lil cable show has a huge fandom and franchise. Everything is huge and everywhere in promotion, compared to another drama show. (LC didn’t get a nice goodbye promo sheesh. AMC is practically spoiling everything.) So I feel like Idk what’s to take seriously with TWD/AMC. Idk when is the endgame or how much they care for it. I kinda think ..you guys don’t need spoilers, AMC will tell ya anyway. 

 Idk what I think of TWD now. I still care about TWD story (kinda..well Rick’s still alive. Caryl and some parts being interesting. Idk about emo/mom!Michonne :( ) I know this show isn’t top show to watch. It’s fun for me, whatever. So, I feel like s7 was my final ending of the story. I feel like s1-4 was top TWD story writing. The rest is whatever..I guess pick some part to watch/follow for and go with flow till the ending. What I’m saying there’s ofc flaws with this show. I didn’t like s8 finale. Time jump was blah and then this major time jump seems so dumb. 6 years wtf. Team family were together without Rick longer than with Rick. ehh. It seems offensive right after Rick’s departure...but he still lives. I really think they did the six year time jump because to age up Henry (Carl 2.0) which is dumb. 

Anyways, I guess what I look forward to with TWD and the 3 movies is the main characters of s9. Caryl, how Richonne reunites,(maybe plus Maggie) and the kids doing stuff and thangs. I hope TWD ends well but I got “backup endings” anyway. We just have to wait longer for the ending. 

I’m speculating on with Danai’s choice, is that Michonne and Judith (and Richonne Jr?) could always decide to leave ASZ to search for Rick in the show and movies. So, Danai can still do other projects if she wants to. Idk but I would love the 3 movies(is it really three about Rick? lol) to be some angsty love story about Richonne. 💖 omg love story. #shippy.

 But who knows.

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ehh im gonna miss carol, carick, caryl, grimes boys, richonne, team family. 

sigh it’s hard when potenial gets wasted. it sucks that amc/writers didn’t just wrap up the show like in a good written ending. :[

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I feel like with Andy leaving and Norman taking over as lead I'm just gonna have to boycott this season. I always said I'd stay at least 1 season after Andy left if Danai was still on (my hope was that she would take over and I'd love to see her character develop that way. Plus I started this show for Danai and I was determined to end it with Danai leaving), but I don't think I can take 2/3's of a season where the show reboots Daryl's character and pushes Michonne into the background even(cont.)

(cont.) Though Rick was the one to say Michonne should lead if he died. I hate that the only way TWD will go off the air is if the ratings tank. I don’t want this show to tank, I want it to go out on a high note. Oh well, I guess I could argue this point until I die, but AMC will never listen to me. I just hope they write a good ending for Rick and Michonne.

Basically. I’d still watch, or try to, if I thought Michonne would be the next leader. But If she doesn’t go with him, I can’t imagine them doing right by her. And I would also be depressed as fuck knowing she lost two sons and two loves of her life. Nope, I can’t. Please, lord, let her go wherever Rick goes. 

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so now I think during the hiatus it’s gonna be like ..”just wait and see” on the lil hope that things will end Rick’s story fine, canon-wise. And for Richonne and Caryl.

It’s kind of like OUAT or sw: tlj. ..ish. Like yeah I can just say s8 was the series finale. That’s the ending. And everyone’s happy after the war. Caryl and Richonne are neighbors. The end. 

I could also wait and see & hope if s9 msf will be like series finale-happy ending.

But there’s still a BIG chance of feeling duped and disappointment if it didn’t go that way. Most likely it won’t go my way. But I probably won’t feel sad/disappointment/duped that like I am right now. Like I already have less faith in writers anyway.. ok. ehh still gonna hurt.

I’m waiting to see how s9 msf will go by looking at filming/spoilers. Waiting to see if Danai will leave or not after s9A. Because like I can’t/don’t want to see Michonne losing people she loves again and again. 

And if s9b is like a spin-off show way.. that I feel it’s different than TWD, then there I hope there’s still good writing there..like consistency, parallels, more team family still. Then I hope/wait to see if  Caryl goes canon too or some interesting Caryl slow burn romance story. I don’t mind if it’s like some Caryl spin off show. I’ve read a few comments that some saying maybe they be like comic-R and M. Best friends that eventually be canon/endgame. That would be cool. (since I read the comics and like to speculate with the show...) And if Michonne is still living then I hope she does some other character arc/journey. idk, Be best friends with Carol. Stay close together raising Judith and Enid. (idk about Maggie/LC) BUT, there I feel doubtful on what the writers will do with Daryl and the Caryl ship. It’s a lot to take in and hope for. I mean like whatever s8 ended with TF winning the war, Caryl and Richonne living their best lives. I guess I’m more story than ship. 

*wtf i can’t believe Caryl are the last Atlanta two (and quickly), canon-wise. They won the Hunger Games. (that is if Rick dies, blah)

So it’s hard to like detach from the show. It’s a huge change (and fast too :\). It’s like 10 years watching this show and being with the fandom. (idk what it would be like if no Big Brother no more heh. whatever. Always some other new show to forward to). Like with OUAT it was easy for me to decide to quit when. I knew my final straw was, I guess. It was hard to deal with. I just ignore the show and media. Until I feel like I don’t know those characters and this different story arcs anymore. They became different to me. I pinpoint where my ending is canon-wise or ..my idea. Because really stories are stories. You can change it up.

 I appreciate the good times of the fandom and the show.  rn it just hurts. Disappointment feels.

sigh i keep having my hopes up.. but this long crazy summer hiatus, I will eventually know more and maybe know more on to quit or not before s9 starts.

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I’m very mixed with how I feel about Andrew Lincoln leaving the Walking Dead. On one hand I am happy for him and wish him the best, on the other, the show will never be the same. Rick talked about a better world and suddenly he’s gone.

With Carl dead, Rick really only has Michonne and Judith and Michonne is up in the air with her future on the show. What could his future be? Carl wanted Rick happy and safe and he deserves to be that way.

I’m hoping that they don’t kill Rick off. Let him just go on his own with Judith, give him peace and leave the faintest hope that he is still out there, raising his daughter and living his life as Carl would have wanted. Otherwise Carl died for nothing and Rick died miserable and in pain.

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