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Negan and reapers speculations ... Twd spoilers

I think negan will be banned and will stay at Leah's cabin. In the comics, at the time after whisperer war etc, comic negan stays at the cabin ..and for a long time and he doesn't come back to Asz. But with tv negan and with twd show gonna have it's s11/final season, I'm sure negan will be appearing in s11 and during the Commonwealth or/and other arcs in the final season.

Since negan is very on this redemption arc...idk what the endgame for him. Maybe some Maggie and negan moment to process by later on and he leaves asz in the end?

Anyway i think some kind of redemption plot or something to gain trust for Maggie and Daryl, is if he kills the reapers and that Leah could be one of the reapers while he meets them or noticed them attacking asz/TF. (Leah could be a reaper from all those military signs and her squad.) Idk Leah could be like comic Sherry. ...which I think comic negan handled that group for Rick for a bit.

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Anonymous asked:

Do you really think daryl's omitting something from his relationship with leah? Maybe they didn't even have sex, who knows?

I mean, we only got a handful of memories out of the few years they spent getting to know each other. There’s plenty of room for other stuff to have happened. If AK and NR are to be believed, then it’s probably stuff that will paint Leah’s character quite differently and shed some more light on her military background. 

I’m not sure we’re meant to question whether or not they had sex, but maybe it wasn’t as easy for Daryl as he’s allowing himself to remember. 

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where Leah belongs

In her last scene she had with Daryl before disappearing Leah said “or do you belong with the family you left because it was too hard to face what happened?” which applies just as much to her as Daryl

When she was telling her story about how she wound up alone, she says she got separated from her family, got to the cabin, and then her son died and she never left. She never tried to find her family, and we have no indication that anyone other than her son’s mother died.

I don’t believe Leah and Daryl belonged together, and hopefully the writers and characters don’t really either. They were both in places frozen in grief, unable to face where they really belonged.

Her frustration with him parallels her frustration with herself, and confronting Daryl about his issues made her face hers. I like to think she’s out looking for her family where she really belongs.

If she comes back, I’d like to see it in kind of an antagonist role. She has reunited with her family, her squad who swore to stay together and fight together (primarily against walkers or other people? come on, you know no group like that can be saints) and we get the ultimatum “me or your family” again, but with higher stakes and Daryl making the right choice

Thanks for pointing out a (another) detail i missed lol so her squad might still be alive? 😮 Yeah I can see that happening that she leaves to find her squad or they found her. .. And squad could be the reapers if they're gonna be antagonist.

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---Ugh I don't like how the online fandom dont watch the ep on the same day. So I had to tag spoilers (from thursday) or wait till Sunday or Monday. /Tumblr.. And me tagging everything or posting is tiring./ And I wish the caryl fandom is more on the same page but oh well. Hard to let it go. ...

10x18 thoughts

Anyway, I like the your guys' posts of Find Me going around. Very insightful and kinda what I already had in mind. And I think it was less bad than some people were expecting.

I watched it. I really liked it. I guess I like those kind of slow stories of person's past and present .. And the parallels. it's nice to get a lot of Daryl pov in the ep. Very charactery ep. We get to learn more about Daryl ..like seeing his lonely side and as a bf in the past. Daryl's very loyal. I know that the gf Leah is like shocking to learn and writers had the chance to add it from the 6 year time skip in an episode. It helps that Carylers knew about the spoilers for a month and that .. The flashback i think was written well for me to believe it that it had happened in the past. It had that slow time-pass mood. (Apparently Carol knew a bit of Leah from Bonds ep. So ..writers had Leah in mind for a long time. ?)

The ep had a lot of parallels to different things. It gets confusing and idk what Kang is trying to say. There were llike Leah is similar to Daryl or mix of TF, Caryl similar to DL, Carol similar to Leah. And then its like Carol similar to past Daryl and vice versa. But the ep just ends of Caryl kinda breaking up and just gotta fix the cabin to sleep overnight. The angst ... Their story is not done. The ep is mostly focused of Caryl. I'm looking forward to ep Diverged.

I like how one poster said Carol needs to figure out where she belongs and it's with Daryl.

So in the ep it seems like there's 3 choices with Daryl ..to live peacefully idk. *First of all idk why Leah wants Daryl to decide. (Writers putting drama there?) Idk where or why Leah wants to leave. Idk I think she cares about Daryl and was kinda hurt that he stays by the river and not with TF (still living) or with herself. She wants him to grow? Move on too? So I think she was ready to leave and move on and made Daryl to decide.

1- stay at the river looking for Rick. 2- be with Leah (wherever she went, and move on). Or..3 - be with TF/Carol, move on.

After Carol said she can't visit often anymore and busy at kingdom, Leah made him decide, ..Daryl felt stuck in grief(1), on his three day search, and so then he's like realizes (2)"I should be with Leah". But Leah left already. Then he's back at square one(1) ..by the river. Idk it's like s9 then showed ..Carol got him to look after Henry ... To get Daryl back with TF to have some peace.( 3).

Daryl is loyal and about family/ASZ...where he would belong. So he's tired of seeing Carol running away and she needs to work on her issues..have faith. He wants Carol to stay and.. Yeah they belong together.

You guys kept mentioning the past and the future with Leah and Carol. It really is making me think of comic Carl x Lydia x Sophia. 👀 check it out in my blog.

I didn't really think of ep 17 but 👀💭 oh whisperers still around and reapers (new ) are out there still? I can kinda see that maybe Leah return to kill off the remaining whisperers/walkers and make a deal..idk and she's a leader from the reapers. Like comic Sherry. But idk.. It's so angry/manipulative and violent like. I don't see Leah that way. I wish to know where she went. I also don't think she could be comic Pamela ...cos in comics Commonwealth the people were like kinda not experienced or knowledgable of survival except the soldiers. And the arc was about old vs new world ..way of living. Political things. So idk what comic version she could be but be like comic Lydia in a subtle way.

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I think the point Kang was trying to make but didn't explain well(in regards to Leah) is that she didn't actually ever plan on leaving.

The scene where Leah confronts Daryl over dinner, where she asks him to figure out where he belongs she's very likely upset that he's going out there to look for Rick for multiple days again and that's why she was upset. We all know Daryl is one of the most capable survivors left alive at this point, but there's no denying that every time he leaves, especially for multiple days, he's putting himself in danger. That's why Leah is upset. She obv cares for him. She doesn't understand why he continues to look for a "dead" man. She wants him "home", with her, just like any of us would want our loved ones were we in a similar situation.

Now to the reason why Leah can't go to any of the communities... Kang explains that she's grieving. And we see in multiple shots that her son's grave is in they yard by the cabin. She's got her own, isolated little world which I'm sure she's very hesitant to leave. Whether Daryl ever poses that they should go live in one of the communities is never established, but I'm willing to bet that either it was never brought up(because it's Daryl) or it was and it was shot down really quickly.

We also need to take into account that at that Daryl was not ready to go back, obviously, & also point Michonne was still not even talking to long time friends from outside Alexandria because of what had happened to the kids.... So Alexandria was out as a place to bring Leah. Hilltop was mostly inhabited by former Saviors at that point and Maggie was just... Off with Georgie somewhere. Likely making the thought of being there unbearable.

...and then there's the Kingdom. And as much as Carol would have wanted Daryl to come there and be safe... I can't see him ever wanting to live there and have to see Carol living the life that Daryl(in his own mind) could never give her... Even with a new girlfriend in tow. Probably ESPECIALLY with a girlfriend in tow. I can see him finding that too messy.

So we have all that to take into account... And then...

When Daryl has his freakout "epiphany" where he runs back to Leah & she's gone... It's only been a few days. And yet she's gone and the house is torn up. Chairs are knocked over, the picture frame is smashed and empty. Dog was abandoned. She left in a hurry. It wasn't planned. Walkers could have gotten in and overwhelmed her, forcing her to grab shit quickly and run... Or people could have found the place and she had to take off...

That's why Carol asks what he thinks happened. And a big part of why he blames himself for her being gone.

But yes, I think Kang was trying to explain that to us and I think that she left some clues for us to understand the events happening that way, but I think, especially with the tone of the episode, it's easy to overlook little details that got sprinkled into places...

Thanks for explaining. I forget some things or so. I kinda assumed Leah left by choice because people kept saying she left (from reviews) and also her picture was gone. Yeah Daryl doesn't know for sure how or why she left. I'm kinda think maybe one of her old friends found her or someone ask to be in their group. So maybe Leah decided to move on while knowing Daryl would rather live by the river or something. Like she knew he wouldn't choose her. Idk

I also thought Leah was fine with Daryl leaving for a few days here and there during their time together as a couple (because that is what they did as friends). Like I thought it was something they're fine abd understand with. But it does make sense if it was like a thing she didn't like, Daryl leaving Leah to search Rick, as a couple. Like it's finding Rick/Tf or be with Leah.

I wonder what happened to her and what will happen for Caryl.

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I think I might be disappointed if Leah wasn't Carol 2.0 and was like idk female-Daryl or something. Yeah more like speculations was wrong-diasppoinment kind of thing. (I hate those...speculating too hard too long)

Idk what female-daryl would mean...writing-wise. Or trope-wise. They're too similar and they wouldn't work out? Daryl coulda been similar to her ...if idk didn't return to Asz.?

Maybe Leah isn't to be paralleling anyone but as her own person. Expect comics.. Ok I typed Lydia awhile ago and kept wanting to type Leah 3 times. So what if Leah is comic Lydia. ..or Pamela. Lol Idk.

Anyway ...after the ep I gotta theorize again but info I know after 10x18.

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Some more speculations on Leah in TWD.

The more I think about what plots (or remix comic book plots) might happen in 10c/s11 for Leah I'm like .. Huh?🤔

We don't know her much or what she would do in s11 yet. Like Leah could be a remix of comic Pamela if it's about Commonwealth and politics. ...or go extreme the same way, wanting war, but as comic Dwight. She could be like comic Lydia who was teen Carl's first love and supporting him as he's growing up like a leader/man until flash forward years later Carl ended up with Sophia - I mentioned this because some compare Caryl to Carl/Sophia. (But I'm not sure how that storyline would work in s11 and commonwealth.) I'm speculating based on main characters/grimes boys and the other character in a plot. I wonder if Leah is based on any twd comic material.

If writers wanted to do a love triangle with Leah, Carol, and Daryl, if so, then I don't see d0nnie happening. Or just the writers didn't want to use C0nnie for this plot...and instead had a whole different character to do it. (who was a gf- like a meaty relationship to compare to soulmatey Caryl/main leads in s11) hmm its like writers changed their mind on C0nnie. Maybe there would've been Caryl vs d0nnie and without Leah in s11, but LR actress was busy. Unless writers want a Daryl love square. 😑 so idk maybe there was always a love triangle plot or something in s11.

Anyway I'm curious how this Leah plot will go and I hope its just a challenge and not a doom for Caryl/shippers (and spin-off show.)

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According to deatvshow spoiler the actress who plays Leah down in Georgia. The actress said she will be in season 11 isn't that a bad sign for Caryl. I don't feel Positive at all knowing she going to be part of season 11.

Hey. I'm just going be episode by episode or arc by arc if I'm still into the show. So far I'm ok ... But writers are really changing and adding things for s11 and spin-off. So much more drama for Caryl/story.

Idk I really wish the ep description would say Daryl found a gf in the past. It's just a big character story jump. I wish writers kinda hint at it in s10. I mean general fans are gonna be surprised. Okaaay

Anyway I kinda heard about the actress being there.. Like spotted her recently for s11. Hmm I think daryl/Leah are like CZ as in it was quick to happen and romance was offscreen. So ..i feel that they're not really invested or endgame. Unless I'm wrong and caryl got bellarke'd 🙃 

Ok so since Leah left Daryl in the past, her being missing means possible of her showing up in s11. I guess for sure she is. Since its beginning of s11(?) I guess Daryl will find her at Commonwealth. I guess my theory of c0nnie at Commonwealth is wrong...she's wherever with Virgil. Idk what it could mean for daryl/Leah and caryl.  Heck maybe Kang wants a love triangle and in the end Daryl choose to be with Carol. Idk. I think Kang is into love triangles and angst and Daryl. So it's positive if it's end up being daryl/leah/carol triangle. It's a negative if they focus on Leah, Daryl always about Leah, and she left to NM or something. Imo.

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So with the promo teasers and hints from the skybound guy, we got some kind of spoilers. Like maybe some kind of Daryl / Leah shippy rumors (and cabin) or anything that a fandom will be fighting about ships.

Anyway I'm confused about it and I'm just like wtf seems so different and hyped. Speculating make me crazy.

So far I hear Leah is from the flashback/past ..from the cabin (where Daryl was yelling ?). She could be Dog's owner or not, and she could be dead or reappear in present time. I think she's only there for one episode because it seems like other guest stars in 10c are for one episode.

I think it's odd and it's like a lot to take in ..to see Daryl's past in those skipped 6 years(s9) and if Leah was his gf, in a 10 bonus episode. Weird.

Daryl never mentioned about Leah in s9 and s10 a&b. I think if writers wanted Leah to be a gf or something that affected Daryl later on, I think based on timeline Carol would had known about her already.

Idk it's just weird .. Like why now in 10c? I think the writers are doing something different to Daryl to his story or adding something new to his character. Like for more conflicts for s11 or for Caryl relationship. New drama story telling stuff.

It seems drastic but ukno the writers are not really the greatest. Blah. So s10c isnt what I was expecting. It seems like they're going like as usual .. Going forward into the story. Anyway so I think something gotta mean something when Caryl goes to find a cabin that reminds him of Leah. I'm also wondering since its like a major Daryl ep, Carol is part of this too. I think the flashback plot relates to how Daryl acts to Carol. They seem awkward or frustrated with each other of something at the end of the ep. (Daryl had to apologize?) ...Or the Daryl & Leah flashback relates to what happens to Caryl now .. to make them feel frustrated in the ep.

Idk what is going on with Caryl in s10c. But it's like there's something new to it. I was kinda thinking maybe Daryl wanted deeply talk about their relationship because how she left to go on a boat and dealing with her rage of Alpha. Like he's still upset about it with her. With these spoilers I'm kinda thinking maybe he's worried that he might lose Carol like he did with Rick and Leah. Or he doesn't want Carol be like what Leah did in the past. Idk .. I think the ep ends on about Caryl and so it will be something that affects Caryl.

Now if Daryl and Leah were a couple, I think it would be during the past and short lived. It doesn't really bother me because he was alone in those 6 years and Carol was with Zeke. Daryl doesn't do flings but I think he picks carefully and takes his time/slow burn. I mean he probably had 3 girlfriends in his lifetime. Anyway, it doesn't bother me much maybe because its like offscreen romance and it's probably not his one true love(lol and for one ep which he didn't mention later on). Idk Leah could be like a Carol-rebound gf.

But Leah could be someone who he talked to that brings up on missing Rick and idk realizing he is waiting/loving for Carol. Maybe that is where Dog(Leah the dog owner?) comes in as Daryl hide behind Dog and skips out relationships. idk .. Writers are doing something and I think they are adressing Daryl's love life again.

I realized writers are probably doing big flashback episodes like with Maggie and Negan too. I think the cabin in the ep will be where Negan will stay at in his ep. ...which I think Carol brings Negan to him there. So there could be about Carol too with ..the main characters I think she's kinda team negan or doing what she promised because Negan killed Alpha. However Daryl and Maggie might be frustrated with that with her. Idk. It seems like Negan will be banned and the group will agree with that in his ep.

So those are my thoughts. I can't wait for more context on what's going on with Caryl.

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