Revelation 6:13

That is a thing that certainly did happen. 😂 And then they got very grouchy about it.

Found this on Facebook…

BRING BALTHAZAR BACK 2K17, BRING THAT SARCASTIC ANGEL BACK PLEASE! I HAVE NEVER RELATED TO AN ANGEL FROM THE SHOW MORE THAN HIM!

Just

Look

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Angel

@spnfangirlforeversammyrules

BRING HIM BACK

I’m ok with that… it will be great, but guys seriously, we’re waiting for Gabriel’s return since season 5 and we actually are at season 13, and there’s still no sign of him so unless a miracle…

well guys..here is a happy thought, episode 18 is entitled ‘bring em back alive’, who do we know is the only person to be able to wake angels in the empty?I’m not saying jack will bring everyone back..just a select few, so the angels do not go extinct…

Yes, a thousand times yes!

well technically jack didn't bring cas back, he just woke him up and the empty got annoyed but if he got annoyed just at one cas can you imagine the sheer force of irritation if not only gabriel but balthazar suddenly woke up in the empty WHEN HE WAS ALREADY HAVING A BAD NIGHT'S [eternity's] SLEEP BECAUSE OF THEIR OTHER BROTHER he'd probably just slingshot the whole damned lot of them back into reality because screw that

Together, they colud save the world…

HOW DARE YOU

Wrong answer

Sam is praying to God again. YOU SHOULD BE PRAYING TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY ANSWERS YOUR PRAYERS.

Even Dean is skeptical.

Cas was in Gaza? Is he able to fly again? THIS WOULD BE A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

Okay, all the rabbit stuff was fantastic (and killer clowns, and Donna being wonderful as expected), but the thing I’m still stuck on is one of the very first points from the very beginning of the episode: the implication that Cas is able to use his “wings” to “fly” again, or however you want to say it. He can apparently teleport himself to Gaza? Or did he take a commercial plane flight?

Now I REALLY NEED TO KNOW THIS!

Because as far as we knew, NO angels have been able to poof in and out at will since 8.23 when all their wings burned.

Are they all somehow magically better for no particular reason? Or is it just Cas? If so, how?

Or… the plane scenario, which might be fodder for a coda fic… but hear me out here:

Cas knows there are documents and books in Gaza that might help them figure out the Darkness, and Sam says, “Yeah, sure…” and starts booking tickets. Cas notices Dean blanching and then turning green at the thought of flying half way around the world, and tells Sam he’s recovered enough to take care of it himself to spare Dean having to get on the plane.

I mean, it’s either that or unexplained wing regeneration, or some sort of healing side effect of Rowena (with her new Darkness-Enhanced Magic curing him from the attack dog spell)… I don’t even know with continuity anymore.

When the angels fell, their wings burned off.  They still had their grace, but their wings were removed from their grace, so they can’t fly anymore.  

Cas didn’t fall like they did.  His grace was removed.  I think using the grace for a spell damaged it, so his wings were ragged and injured when he got his grace back.  But I think having his grace removed before the fall, probably allowed him to keep his wings, and he just needed to wait until they regenerated.

That’s my theory anyway.  I gotta say, I really love the idea of Cas taking planes all over the world for research so Dean won’t have to :D

Yeah, and that’s great if that’s the case, but the last we saw his wing-shadows when he got his grace back, they looked just as burnt and damaged as Gadreel’s did that time we saw them in 9.02 (I think?). And Cas hasn’t been able to “fly” even since getting his grace back. He had to summon Crowley to fetch ingredients for Rowena’s spell, specifically because he couldn’t fly on his own, even as recently as 10.23.

And if Cas has somehow regained the ability to fly when as far as we know all the other angels still can’t, then I just want an explanation as to why. And yeah, I’ve thought that maybe your theory about his grace having been protected from the spell by virtue of having been an ingredient in the spell may have left “more intact” than the angels who did fall, but that’s never been implied or suggested by the show before.

Two episodes Cas’s main goal was to get his car back from Metatron. He needed his car two episodes ago. If his wings were 100% functional, or even nearing recovery, it would’ve been the perfect time for, instead of Sam making a crack about the car being “Crappy,” he could’ve said, but I thought you didn’t need it now that you have your wings back… and Cas could’ve said, wings or not, I like my car… or whatever. There’s two different ways it could’ve been worked into the text in under 10 seconds of screen time.

Sorry. I can’t believe I’m so upset about this! But I am. I have major Cas feelings about his wings, and his powers, and what he had taken from him and has tried to rebuild in himself, and now suffering ptsd on top of everything… I just think if something as monumental as having recovered the ability to fly had happened to him, it would’ve been bigger news, simply because that’s a MAJOR win for him on a personal level, you know? It needs more than an offhand vague comment that inspires people like me to rant about it. :)

Holy crap, THANK YOU, I knew there was something bothering me about this episode! I’m with you, this is going to make me cranky if it’s wings and not planes, because damn.

Castiel’s wings did seem a lot like Gadreel’s wings. It would make sense that the wings on the angels were burned off since we haven’t seen them leave wing imprints after dying ever since the fall. But Gadreel fell, and it was implied his wings were fucked up because of the torture he received in addition to the trauma of falling. It could be that no falling had spared Castiel’s wings.

But I had thought that the real reason they couldn’t teleport was because Metatron closed off heaven and their flying ability was tied heaven-dimension somehow. They’re still using Metatron’s door (”made permanent”) to get in and our of heaven, and won’t be able to move freely until heaven is actually fixed.

I just think Charmelo and Snyder wanted a way of getting Cas out of the bunker (really really far away from the bunker) without thinking anything through. It was such a callous throw-away line about his whereabouts that I wouldn’t necessarily read too much into it? Pretty sure it’s just a fuck up. Another doorway to hell plot-hole that we’re never going to get answers to.

Personally I’ve always thought because Cas didn’t have his Grace when the angels fell, that he was protected from them burning. But, and this is all spec mind you, because he didn’t have his own Grace from 9x09 onwards his wings started dying. Any angel Grace he had throughout season 9 and 10 (until he got his own back) was already wounded Grace, and Grace that didn’t have wings, and was constantly burning out and damaging him in the process. It would sort-of make sense that the damage would start in extremities (such as wings) and work inwards towards the core of his base until he supernova’d.

I assumed that he had wings, but they were more or less just constant, dead weight between 9x09 and 10x18. And that they were damaged beyond repair/he didn’t have enough of his own Grace to salvage them.

So Charmelo and Snyder fucked up (they often do with continuity imo, I don’t hold them in the best of writerly esteems), but at least we can have some cute Coda fic of Cas on a plane because I’m sure he’d be grumpy as fuck about that. This is so slow, painfully boring, disastrously unsafe. He’d probably wind up sitting next to a child and entertains them by explaining the physics behind how planes stay up.

Yeah, a lot of this had occurred to me, and either way I still feel a little cheated out of something. If Cas’s wings are working again (whether or not they are the source of his ability to teleport or “fly”), like I said before it would be a MAJOR development for him.

TWO LINES could’ve not only covered the plot hole, but also been a nice little gift wrapped present from the duty-free shop at the airport:

Sam: Cas got a lead on a scroll in _____, but he’s got a nine hour layover in _____ until the next flight out.

Dean: Angels flying coach. Better him than me. (or other snarky reminder that Dean hates airplanes: “hope he doesn’t get stuck next to the screaming baby,” “At least he doesn’t eat, so he won’t have to worry about airplane food,” “How did he get his angel blade through customs?” ANYTHING really)

Literally, two lines, which could’ve been substituted for that line about him finding all those antique books and documents in Gaza. Which implied that he went there, fetched the books, brought them back to the bunker, and then took off again in search of something else. I’m sure he’s still got enough mojo to pull a “we are not the droids you are looking for” on enough people for him to have stolen the books and slipped through airport security with them, but really.

Cas flying all over the world on commercial airlines is almost as big a story as him getting his wings back to full power, you know? It’s SO FREAKING HUMAN. The boredom of waiting at the airport, the indignity of going through security, the general discomfort of long flights and layovers and just the mass of humanity sealed up in a metal tube hurtling through the air for hours and then landing in an entirely new place.

Then again, this might just be one more of the plot points from this episode that WAS intentionally left deliberately vague, just like whether or not Chester was innocent or guilty of committing the acts he was accused of.

We’re left to wonder whether Castiel has done something more “angelic” or if he chose to go in search of the information they needed in a far more “human” fashion, the same way he used human skills and tools to track down Metatron and find the demon tablet.

Based on that, I’m going to assume he once again chose the human way.

#spn 11.07#castiel winchester#reblobbed again because I am far more coherent after coffee#it’s been hammered into our heads that castiel has not only chosen to side with the winchesters at every turn#but he has also sided with humanity in general and values the human way of doing things#as far as i’m concerned i need all the cas in airports and airplanes coda fic now#which is that gift wrapped present from the duty free shop i mentioned above#because really confirmation that he’s flying around the world like people do is just too much for me and i need all the fic of it right now#using his grace to make the planes go faster#and mysteriously every flight he’s on lands like four hours earlier than expected#and folks can’t figure out what’s happening and the pilots assume they’ve lucked into the most helpful tailwinds in history#but dean figures it out when cas keeps calling to check in with him in half the time his flight was supposed to take#and he tells cas to stop fucking with air traffic because they’re not the only plane up there and dean is generally already panicking about#putting cas in one of those metal death tubes but cas just rolls his eyes because I ACCOUNTED FOR THE OTHER AIRCRAFT#IN MY CALCULATIONS DEAN and THE PLANE IS EVEN LESS LIKELY TO CRASH WHILE I’M ABOARD IT DEAN#BECAUSE I CAN KEEP IT ALOFT WITH MY GRACE DEAN and PLEASE STOP WORRYING DEAN#*makes grabby hands at all of the ‘cas in an airplane’ coda fics* (via @mittensmorgul)

You know when you just love someone’s tags so so so much? 😊

oh I didn’t hear Sam said ‘Gaza’ - so I assumed he’d referenced a US library or Men of Letters stash or something, DAMN.

I’m holding to the glorious Cas using planes headcanon until told otherwise! XD but agree it’s VERY FRUSTRATING nothing about this was clarified, rah rah!!

Reblogging because CASTIEL and WINGS. Although sadly I think it was probably just a slip-up. But a silly one, given how careful they’ve been to impose limits on Castiel’s powers just so that they don’t have to keep benching him. 

Also, minor note, but they’ve been forgetting to leave wing-shadows since before the angels fell.

(linked, btw)

#this is one of the best scenes in the entire show hands down#castiel#lucifer#you are the most important#fav episodes#abandon all hope

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I knoooow. I adore it. I really wish we could have preserved some of that sense of angels as genuinely alien, rather than just a bit dismissive of humans, but at the same time possessing a meaningful and genuine shared background that means they understand each other and the strangeness of their existence here on earth far better than humans ever could, creating this strange kind of fellowship even when they’re on opposing sides like this. Remember when they used that and made it work instead of just finding repeated reasons to clip their wings, in all senses?

This is the reason why God left and never came back.

This makes me want to see a Pirates of Penzance AU where God/the Major-General just keeps wanting to run away from his terrifyingly large horde of daughters but they keep following him. Hell, he even went paddling on the Cornish coast in February and they thought it was a good idea to come and join in.

i still believe this is the first time cas has ever really seen their outta appearance, because before he was always looking at their souls.

holy shit they’re gorgeous 

Then what was Castiel seeing all the times he saw soulless!Sam? It's canon that they can't see a soul just by looking. But I'll buy that when he looks at a human with angel senses as well as human ones he sees a whole host (ahaha) of other things: the almost incomprehensible silvery buzzing and clicking of thoughts, the roiling coloured clouds of emotions (both current and fading into the past), the heartbeat and the workings of every organ, healthy or unhealthy, the flow of blood and any other substances through their body, their bright clear (or muddy, wavering) faith in whatever concept of God the angels can relate to, the weight of possible destinies hanging over every human being. And that's in addition to other more mundane senses like scent, which angels might well have far more access to than a human. Of course, learning to read that complex cloud of impressions around any given human would take years; and of course, amongst all that, just how closely WOULD you pay attention to the body itself under all that? So yes - seeing them like this, for the first time, that would be something of a... revelation. Not necessarily pleasant.

ah yes. the pre apocalyptic era where everyone in heaven still got along. good times.

(or the one in which i just really want to draw gabriel and cas in teeny weeny robes) (also apparently i cant draw a platypus) (im so sorry)

farorescourage:

LOOKIT THE THING actually a lot of this is how I visualised things for the MSM and angel-flock verses, except that in MSM we never got to see any angel houses (and consequently furniture) and in the other verse they don't use much except beds. But if I ever get around to elaborating on MSM...

Team Free Will headcanon: I feel like the boys would stop in open, lonely places so the angels could stretch their wings every now and then.

Really, I just wanted an excuse to draw clouds and wings.

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#Gadreel#you deserved better

Guys. HE. FUCKING. KILLED. KEVIN.

Allow me to clarify. 

You deserved better than the torment, abuse and neglect you received for being tricked all those years ago in the garden. You deserved better than the guilt that came from a mistake that you couldn’t help. You deserved better than the blatant hatred from your friends and family because Lucifer undermined you like he had so many others.

No, I’ll never forgive you for killing Kevin—seeing as it was a choice that you freely made—but you deserved better than the manipulation that warped you to the point where you felt like you had to.

#angels are abuse victims #which doesn’t negate the terrible things they choose to do #any more than it does when dean or sam does terrible things #but the terrible things they do doesn’t negate the horror of undergoing what he must have believed would be eternal torture #and only wasn’t because of metatron’s spell #he was so terrified of being trapped back inside heaven’s prison #that he saw death as a better choice (via butterflydm)

I loved Gadreel’s plot though… so ‘deserved better’ is not really my philosophy :p I am 100% satisfied with exactly the backstory and the plot the show gave him!

Basically reblogging this for the excellent point of ‘angels are abuse victims’ - they all (with… PERHAPS the exception of the archangels, but probably not) grew up in what has always seemed to me to be what could be termed an ‘abusive’ environment (neglect, brainwashing, having their individual identities and emotions suppressed and forced into a soldier mentality and stuff) in a similar way to Sam and Dean (only with LESS of a ‘family’ element to their relationships with each other imo). So, yeah…

I don't know - I think it depends on how you want to write each specific story. To say that that kind of environment is abusive to angels presupposes that angels are the same kinds of creature as humans in terms of emotional needs and personal development, which isn't necessarily the case. But it's certainly fun to play with - and the show tends to swing back and forth with how far it wants to humanise them depending on whether it wants them to be sympathetic or not, so choose your own adventure. :) That said, I do love all the points above. And Gadreel's arc was wonderful and also terrible for all those reasons.

I would just like to take a moment to be smug and say 'called it four years ago when I first started writing In His Image': presence or absence of powers does not change what a person is. Castiel is an angel. An angel is not just a human with added mojo (which we have decided to call grace). They have a different history, a different sense of self, a different essence. He might choose to live as a human - or he might be cut off from all his powers and confined to the abilities of the human body that he is inhabiting - but that doesn't make him  a human, any more than giving Dean the powers of an angel would make him an angel.

there are kind of a few things that sit really wrong with me concerning this scene

because no spn you can’t be seriously trying to tell me that castiel didn’t feel before he became human that he didn’t feel sorry for everything that went wrong that he wasn’t suicidal and eaten up by guilt ever since season 6 that he would’ve jammed that needle into sam’s throat until he died before he became human the reason castiel rebelled in season 4, fought with the winchesters for the greater good in season 5, tried to stop raphael in season 6, subdued insanity in season 7 to help ridding the world of what he brought to it, overcame mind control in season 8 for a singlw human, was because castiel always felt, he was never a mindless soldier who claimed the ending always justifies the means he has one of the biggest hearts the world has ever seen.

But perhaps he didn’t believe that?

maybe, but to me it really felt like the show was trying to sell those points to the mass to emphasize how much cas being human changed him, while ignoring the incredible amount of wasted potential there was in his human storyarc from the beginning? and i kinda don’t think that cas was unaware of how to feel sorry the way he decided he had to do penance and thinking about killing himself as the result of what he did to heaven etc. those are all such significant moments that prove to me that castiel knew exactly how to feel (mostly terrible at all times) like every decision castiel made he made because he felt and that because of that, he was so different to all his brethren and i also kind of believe that he knows that and always has?

Well, yes, the show generally changes what it decides it's doing from week to week. :P But if we want to try to synthesise it into workable headcanons or character analysis, I'd go with the line that the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves are the most powerful form of self-construction there is, and the angels have been insisting on the "angels can't feel" story for so long (hello, Anna!) even when it's patently untrue (hello, every single archangel! and also Balthazar! and also... everyone?), that they cling to that as a solace and a bastion against the whole world-shattering mess their lives have become. So remove that, and of course one falls apart...

#dominion#michael#thank fuck for a show that is doing angels properly

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