More Grouptale/Seventale stuff

Thank you, undertale, for filling me with determination, hopes and dreams

Sans did ur mom

thinking about the animation of toriel summoning a glass of lemonade out of thin air that’s exclusive to the kickstarter trailer

look at her.

and then everyone clapped

COOL DUDE(S)

*Married life playing in the background

This idea was probably funnier in my head

Posting this on its own because Tumblr hates links

Fellas

One of the first character interactions we see in Undertale is Toriel unknowingly attacking her son to save a human child she does not know. She leads the human through the Ruins by their hand to keep them safe (from dangerous monsters like her son) and prepares a room in her house for them to stay in (like the one her son lived in). We can call her “Mom” and she will let us (Flowey watches us the entire time.) She attacks us so we don’t leave (the Underground is full of dangerous monsters (like her son)), but when we make it out, Flowey is there to criticize what we’ve done (we’ve taken his mom) (we’ve killed his mom) (we RESET to save his mom) (our mom). She doesn’t know who he is. He put her to bed when she’d passed out on the floor and left a glass of water on her table (someone has to take care of these flowers).

They are neighbors !?

Baby Toriel Adventure

a completely normal pacifist ending with no changes at all. nope.

Fanon Papyrus things that need to stop

1. Papyrus losing his shit when he finds out non-spaghetti pastas exist.

Reason why this sucks - It’s blatantly OOC and non-canon:

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(I love the implication that Papyrus drinks sauce out of cup with a noodle)

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(I also like the implication here that either the lasagna was actually good, or Toby has terrible taste and stole it even though it was bad, OR that lasagna was a weapon of mass destruction that only dog-god Toby could destroy.)

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2. Fluffy bunny is Papyrus’ favorite book! He loves little kids books!

Reason why this sucks - Papyrus himself gives no indication that the Peek-a-boo with Fluffy Bunny book is his all time favorite and gives it the same level of favoritism as ‘Advanced Puzzle Construction for Critical Minds’.

3. Sans helped Papyrus in his fight with the human.

Reason why this sucks - The idea that Papyrus is so weak that Sans would need to help him (SECRETLY OF COURSE) is not only ridiculous and OOC for Sans but blatantly goes against canon as Undyne confirms that Papyrus is incredibly strong. So. Do people who think this think Sans leaves behind his jobs to follow Papyrus to his training to help him train against Undyne??? How many hoops do you have to jump through to believe Sans is so ~Benevolent & Powerful~ and that Papyrus so ~Innocent & Weak, poor bby.~

4. Sans kills the humans that fall in the king Papyrus ending so his poor brother doesn’t have to UwU

Reason why this sucks - If you think Papyrus would approve of his brother essentially doing what Papyrus himself is supposed to do so he doesn’t have to is hilariously wrong. I mean. You could just think “Sans does it without telling Pap!” but then you also must think Papyrus is too stupid to hear the inevitable news of a human falling in/not noticing a new soul in the collection, so that’s also pretty bad. ALSO. Consider: Sans keeping his promise to Toriel not to harm a human to honor her after her death and trying to find another way by becoming a scientist again, meanwhile as he’s so busy with that Papyrus kills the fallen humans but doesn’t tell Sans because he’s so focused on finding another way Papyrus doesn’t want to discourage him.

5. Papyrus is so oblivious to Sans’ struggles

Reason why this sucks - Buddy, it’s not for lack of trying. You can HC Sans suffering all along with the burdens of the world on his shoulders (even though in canon Sans honestly doesn’t really seem too bothered) but acting like Papyrus doesn’t care or is too stupid to notice is blatantly wrong:

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6. Papyrus hates puns so much

Reason why this sucks - Once again super not canon. Papyrus literally has four times the amount of puns as Sans in game, and he actually compliments Sans and Undyne on puns on two occasions.

7. Papyrus doesn’t have healing magic/bad at healing magic

Reason why this sucks - Papyrus literally heals the player to full health both before the fight and if you lose it.

8. Poor innocent cinnamon roll doesn’t like fighting~

Reason why this sucks - PAPYRUS LITERALLY WANTS TO JOIN THE ROYAL GUARD. SURE HE DOESN’T WANT TO KILL ANYONE BUT IT DOESN’T MEAN HE DOESN’T LIKE KICKING ASS. THAT’S LIKE SAYING SOMEONE WHO SIGNED UP FOR THE UFC DOESN’T WANT TO PUNCH SOMEONE.

Wow, I wasn’t expecting this post to blow up like it did. And I’m really happy so many people agree with me, that Papyrus is very often written poorly. On the other side of things, I do realize I probably came across very confrontational in this post. There’s a reason for that. I made this post a few months ago when I was angry and it technically wasn’t finished when I posted it. A few more of those noodle phonecall screenshots were meant to be spliced together for example. Usually, before I post something I’m more careful about my tone because it is easier for people to see where you’re coming from when they don’t feel attacked for feeling differently. So I will attempt to communicate the main message of my original post in a hopefully less angry way.

Imagine for a moment, your favorite character. Now picture your favorite character in the fandom. Now picture your least favorite interpretation of them you have ever seen. Now imagine that is how they are written in almost everything they appear in. They never get to show off what you like about them, in fact, people seem to honestly think they would never do those things even though they can, will, and have done those things. Your favorite character is never given control in any situation. Things just happen to them. They’re basically dead or don’t exist in half of the fanworks you’ve come across.

There’s nothing wrong with headcanons and I’m not trying to “police the fandom” or something equally ludicrous and impossible. I’m just trying to say I want Papyrus to be written well. I’m tired of him being dead, basically a child, or treated like a mindless pet. I don’t think you’d really blame me if your favorite character was always written in a way that makes you annoyed, not even once or twice, but nearly every time. I hope this helped you see why I, and many others, are tired of these headcanons. Also another thing. Only 3 and 4 are headcanons. The rest of these things are actually things that go against his canon personality.

#also pap has a lot of autistic traits #so to those of us who are autistic and love him #the infantilization is extra infuriating

My last post, but I attempted to get better quality. Here goes