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It's wild to me to see people acting like the anger over Adrien's treatment in S4 and S5 comes from people wanting him to be equal to Marinette in terms of, like, screentime or something. While I'm sure that some people do think that, my impression has always been that most people fell in my camp: Marinette is fine as the lead, but the show framed Adrien as the deuteragonist for the first three seasons. It was their show, not just Marinette's. Changing that setup by making Adrien nothing but the helpless boyfriend and Chat Noir... Idk, random teammate #13? Is going against what the show promised through its actual content. I don't want Adrien to be the lead, I just want him to be part of his own story and treated as the equal he's supposed to be in terms of miraculous powers.

It doesn't matter if the creative team was forced to add a guy character (something I've seen claimed, but heavily question since a lot of the old concept art has 2 girls and 3 guys. The girls only concept clearly never passed the earliest stages of development. It was always supposed to be a mix of genders). You write the setup you're given to the best of your abilities. You make it work. You don't get to justify bad writing by "well, I didn't want to stick to the prompt that I agreed to write."

Adrien having agency and a role beyond "boyfriend" doesn't make Marinette somehow lesser. If that's the only way you know how to make a girl look powerful, then you don't know how to write a powerful girl. We're perfectly capable of shining even when the men in our lives have power, too.

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alteanroyals

adrien agreste officially and canonically listens to careless whisper when he is in love, meaning he is not just a simp, but a simp with taste

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baltears

why is explaining a villains sad backstory always taken as an effort toward excusing their actions. why does the conversation need to involve the question of excusing anything rather than just making their present behavior way more interesting by complicating their feelings or their motivations. why is acknowledging complicated feelings or motivations taken as apologism in and of itself. why is everyone so incredibly boring

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angelshizuka

There’s something about the climax in the movie that shows, yes, two inexperienced teenagers (who fell out of sync because of “unrequited“ love) are in fact not strong enough to take on a fully grown adult who’s fighiting like he has “nothing to lose“. And the only reason they won is because said adult realized he did in fact still had something to lose, his son.

It was just so refreshing to see that plot armor isn’t always around to save the day and sometimes it’s as simple as human emotions, because they totally would’ve lost if Gabriel in the movie didn’t genuinely care about his son. But it’s still an experience Ladybug and Cat Noir can take with them to whatever the future has in store for them.

I also love the detail of Gabriel not at all caring about who Ladybug is. Sure, he’s never met Marinette (on screen), but he didn’t even care in general, because he already tossed her aside before she transformed back. It really adds to how obsessed and hyperfocused he is on the Miraculouses.

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The movie remembered the core of the story was love.

The show has been denying and interrupting love for so long, it has forgotten what the emotion looks like.

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I have never before seen a show that not only lost it’s way as badly as this one, but actively hates anyone that expected it to stick to what should’ve been its initial core values. The shift was devastating to the characters and the story and rather than trying to steer the narrative back on course they just. decided to go even more in the love is worthless direction. It’s incredible in the sense that I never suspected they would take it this far and with so much pride. The story has no heart left, just a husk of superficial romance and pessimistic worldviews.

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angelshizuka

Me prefering movie!Gabriel over show!Gabriel isn’t as simple as “one is redeemable and one isn’t“.

I love morally corrupt villains as much as the next person, my problem is how the show keeps acting like Gabriel is still redeemable, while his actions keep proving the opposite, and then they officially ruined it all with that s5 finale…

Before anyone throws their “um, next season this, next season that“ arguments at me, I’d have this to say: For one, s5 is supposed to be the end of the Gabriel arc, we’re officially allowed to complain about it now.

And second, that’s not even getting into how this arc has been going on for 8 years and 5 seasons, we have every single right to be impatient and sick of waiting for things to finally wrap up. Even when this show finally does something right, it’s still “too little, too late“.

(If you’re someone who only joined the show in recent years so doesn’t feel this kind of impatience yet, good for you, but some of us who have been here since 2015 aren’t so lucky.)

Also third, if s5 taught us anything it’s that the “next season“ argument doesn’t mean shit. Look at how that argument was used for Adrien’s treatment in s4 and then s5 came around and treated his character like THAT in that finale!?

That argument is officially null and void to me.

Anyway, my point is show!Gabriel could’ve been a good corrupt villain, but they kept leaning into the “redeemable“ angle too much, so now he sucks at being both type of villains.

And I will literally die on the hill that the sole fact Adrien was completely absent from the Gabriel showdown (heck, barely showed up in the finale at all…) is reason enough to hate the way the Gabriel arc wrapped up. Redeemable villain or not, Adrien facing his father during the final battle is the literal lowest barest of minimums you’d expect from an arc like this, yet they failed at even that.

THAT is the main reason why movie!Gabriel won for me, the fact there was a showdown at all.

Even if movie!Gabriel would’ve gone full villain and treated Adrien like show!Gabriel has in episdoes like Cat Blanc, I probably still would’ve have liked it as long as there wouldn’t have been any stupid memory wipes or time travel to undo it, like the show loves doing.

The show acts like Gabriel wasn’t Adrien’s villain to defeat, but the movie didn’t, it’s as simple as that.

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booskeleton

Watching miraculous awakening after 8 years of everything Thomas Austruc has done that nearly destroys the show felt like a warm hug and a pet in the head by Zag. I quit watching the show because of how out of ideas Thomas clearly was (he took the time between seasons 1 and 2 to gather as many popular fan theories, fanfics and headcanons the fandom created as a way to wait for the next season and added it all to the show, claiming it's all been part of his plan since the very beginning). Now, after almost two years of not even thinking about miraculous, watching this movie was like being reminded of what made me like the show in the first place, only it was better. It feels like Miraculous Awakening was made for the fans who have been there since the very beginning and were tired of waiting for something that would clearly never come. Jeremy put his heart and soul into giving miraculous ladybug the story it deserves

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