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Lmfao I love how Five is just about ready to die of stress or brain aneurysm to desperately gain important information only to get it piece by little piece.

Meanwhile, Klaus could basically do anything and plot secrets get handed to him in golden bloodied platter and he'd be like "Huh". And then put it in his mental pocket like a random collectible.

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The Umbrella Academy going through “I’m THE Daddy” era.

Five: I’m the Daddy of my 30-smth yr old teenage siblings. *immediately wants to retire now*

Diego: *asserting dominance over a sentient cube* IM tHe DadDY HeRE!

Also, Diego: I-I’m the alleged Daddy of this 12 yr old?? ALLEGEDLY.

Viktor: I’m the Daddy of this old man. Hands off.

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So you know the theories floating around (heh) about Christopher's origins even though it's explicitly stated that it's unknown:

This means none of the 43 women gave birth to a cube (thank god). (But also awww, baby Christopher! :D Can you imagine him the size of a rubik's cube? UwU)

And this is where my thoughts about his birth origin comes in:

It's Five.

Five Hargreeves gave birth to Christopher the Cube.

Christopher is a time-space anomaly baby accidentally created by Five. Ergo, he's Christopher's Daddy.

Your pulse is slowing down, "Sike! Says the Watcher hahaha."

Well, no, not quite. I stand by my statement.

Anyway, do you honestly think that Mr. Douchenald Hargreeves wouldn't have found Christopher in og!timeline if he existed there in the first place? That guy seems to be involved in every conspiracy, every world's secretest secret organizations ever created that it's thoroughly unlikely he'll miss a floating cube flying around inducing existential dread everywhere and not immediately taking it in as a test subject.

"But what if someone got to him fir-" Pfft! ha.

So, Christopher not existing in the og!timeline, a most likely fact.

Which goes back to the undeniable truth that Christopher is Five's temporal anomaly baby.

This brings me to my next point.

The Conception of Christopher the Cube

Remember at the end of season 1 where Five grabbed all his siblings to jump in a past, any time in the past, because the possibility of them dying again is not something he can handle and being trapped again in a post-apocalyptic world most likely filling him with the deepest dread. (hmm.)

And the mysterious three year gap before he finally appeared in the 1960s nuclear war torn timeline.

(Sus.)

And the fact that- he, Five Hargreeves, immediately stumbled upon landing when a perfect man like Five never stumbles in his life unless grievously injured and his hiding it (pls refer to the shrapnel incident in s1)

Therefore, something happened to him- somewhere between jumping with his siblings and him stumbling in the 60s....

That must've been the time he was impregnated by the Universe. And in that timeless period, he gave birth to Christopher.

(If seahorses can do it, Five can too.)

With that, here are the undeniable Facts that will back up my claim:

  1. Five stumbled upon landing which he only does when hiding a wound of some sort.
  2. Five wasn't Tired when he landed in 60s Dallas and was able to teleport a few times without breaking a sweat (this suggests a resting period after he gave birth to Christopher.)
  3. Five experienced the Ultimate Existential Dread at the Critical Point of his Jump that a possible Entity of the Universe responded to, explaining that aspect of Christopher's power.
  4. Five has standards. Do you think if he could create child it'd be human? Ha!
5. Five Hargreeves UNDENIABLY gave birth to Christopher the Cube.🌈✨

I’m not done with the season yet, but is this theory still valid? My DM is open to spoilers or your screams of rage and shame (pfft)

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Thoughts 💭 on The Umbrella Academy Season 3 so far:

Took a break in mid of ep3 to gather my thoughts.

Impression of this season is a bit of a mixed bag. I feel like they’re introducing too many material and having trouble keeping up with all of them while the old stuff that they had are barely or halfheartedly addressed.

My biggest hangups are Grace, Marcus, the Sloane x Luther thing,and just the wasted potential of the Sparrows in general and ofc Ben. Still I love how thematically consistent the show is with their themes.

(Now, like I said, I haven’t finished the series so I might change my mind on of these by the end. And my opinions are very subjective, aight👌)

Grace. Why did they do that to her? No clue. Is the weirdness on brand? Yes. Do I have to like it? No. Why?

Wasted potential. She could’ve been a source of tension between the two families. Addressing how the Sparrows treat her and why, and maybe having some existential discussions with each other and maybe a source of internal conflict regarding their concept of family and in the end, the umbrellas affirming that she may be a robot but she’s still their mother regardless of who their birth parents are (well I hope since I haven’t finished the season yet but my expectations are kinda low now).

Marcus. I think the creators deemed him too competent to stay in the long run tbh, which is hilarious but also annoying on how they don’t know how to address it. They better bring him back.

If he stayed, he would’ve made a good anti-villain/hero and might provide a good challenge for the umbrellas that aren’t the Commission OR some good internal conflict between the sparrows if he decided to side w the ☂ wc would then put them in the outsider’s perspective of how much fuckery the Hargreeves operate with (no matter how altered and played w totally new characters). An awareness and acknowledgment that this may have been them in another timeline, shinier and better fighters maybe, but still the issues they all have would still be there.

And maybe them realizing that they don’t want any other family besides each other cause they’re enough. “We’re gonna discover smth that would make us feel shittier than we already are but I would still want to discover that with you” kind of take (a sentiment learned from Everything Everywhere All at Once wc is climbing to be one of my most fave films ever).

The Sloane x Luther thing.

Ugh. Sighs. They have good chemistry- it’s ok- just sighs

Incestuous or not, it still feels forced and just another material added to the pile that won’t be resolve satisfactorily by the narrative. They have so much material they could focus on. In fact, I think they could take away all the romance parts and focus on just the family, their family hijinks, healing, maybe making long term friends along the way would honestly be more satisfying. Is it a Hollywood thing or Steve wanting to direct a romantic movie in the future idek

The Sparrows. They are Awesome, I Love Them, and I hope they were fleshed out more. Their Dickheadedness can remain as it is. I enjoy it. Look how they made a bitch out of Reginald! I can’t be more happier. Let them be the Academy of Mean Girls 💋

Still. I wanna see more of their inner-workings and see them act as foils/parallels to the Umbrellas istg that would be so much more fun. I’m looking forward to seeing more of them as the series goes on. I love Fei, she has this very steady and determined aura to her and you can see her ambition but you can also see that she and most of her siblings don’t think they have anything beyond the lives they were molded into which they reinforced all the way to adulthood. Sloane wants to get out of that mindset, Jayne and Alphonso are indifferent to it, and I think Christopher does it because he thinks it’s cool and his fam does it tbh

Ben. Yo, this man is such a hot mess and so mean I would occasionally clutch my hand to my heart as I feel it shatter because he is the biggest case of how the parenting affects these children. We got two Bens for comparison and suffice to say Reginald is terrible and both sets of children deserve better. I hope they focus on that.

I wish their grief was shown more. I feel like Klaus and Allison are the only ones heading to that Heavy Angsty territory this season (don’t get me wrong I love it).

Still, like I said thematically wise their incredibly consistent which I appreciate. Five and Klaus bonding was GOLDEN.

Honestly with the additions we have this season I really want to see more of Allison and Diego dynamic (what a wonderful knife-twisting that would make), more of Allison and Five (I love how softly he talks with her being very considerate w her grief but also YO THATS NOT ENOUGH he had more scenes w Lila rip), Viktor and Allison future conflict ayyy I can smell it happening

Klaus, Allison, and Viktor bonding over lost loves in the 60s, Klaus and the fam reminiscing about Ben. Them listening to Klaus’ stories of tHEIR Ben’s antics. Viktor and Klaus bonding bcoz UM HELLO?? Why are the queerest people of this family not bonding that’s a freakin crime in storytelling istg.

Well, I shall calm myself down.

Deep breaths for my fellows who feel the same. Remember canon is a sandbox Fanfiction can play in.

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First minute of The Umbrella Academy Season 3 is friggin chaotic already lmfao and what really get me was how lost Reginald was.

He’s like- This new batch of kids is supposed to be better??!!

But yo it took nada an effort before bby birb fam (they look so confused & scared i just wanna cradle them in my bosom) to stoop down the Umbrella’s level.

Esp, Ben. It’s like Klaus entire existence is just one big shiny trigger button for him to immediately throw hands. Dead or alive.

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I’m rewatching TUA and I still don’t really get why Diego was so hung up on trying to save JFK lmao… like he could’ve done literally anything to act like a hero and he decided to obsess over the death of a president? 💁🏻‍♀️??

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it was (love) obsession at first sight. (XD) He imprinted on JFK the same way Five imprinted on a mannequin when he first got misplaced on time.

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Thoughts on The (Umbrella-verse) Hargreeves (1/2)

So with the latest updates of this series, I'm back again. And with the reminder that it's a big fandom actually, and that there's an abundant amount of fanon. So I'm gonna put my thoughts on here, about what I genuinely think about the canon-characters presented on screen. Based on my subjective opinion.

First part is about the Hargreeves that aren't the siblings:

Reginald Hargreeves

I. Hate. Him. Sure, he's intelligent and incredibly ambiguous, I would be fascinated with on a normal day. But I'm attached to his family more and he's a horrid parent, an ineffectual leader, and one fucked-up mad scientist who got dubious to completely inadequate results. He is unethical and wanted to create soldiers instead of functioning sentient people. Then deciding over the years to be a Father??? Letting the children think that he's one??? (Most likely deciding it's the most practical avenue-) but not adjusting to that role accordingly and with aplomb like he did with the other roles he chose for himself (because it'd naturally contradict w each other).

Sure, I believe he holds affection for his children. Because he does. He acknowledges the names they identified themselves as even if it's just in writing and not out loud (the bar is in hell), and there was a softness present when he interacted with Klaus in the afterlife. But he's staunchly unapologetic and it's not enough.

A General, a Scientist, a Father, and the most consistent Disappointment of this Family. In Multiple Timelines.

Pogo

Mixed feelings. On one hand, I understand his position. There are so many Luther-parallels for a reason (and it's so, so uncomfortable). It's just, he went beyond what Luther could've tolerated because Reginald is the only home he knows and believes would accept him in the end. On the other, he's the only one besides Reginald and the siblings with enough agency to change things but didn't.

He's in line with Reginald in the self-fulfilling prophecy trope. They believe they were saving the world, but they were also the catalysts on why it needed saving in the first place.

Good Girl God on a Bike though, but the Battered something Syndrome is real with this one.

Claire Hargreeves

-In desperate need to be in the narrative more. But I love what she symbolizes. A future to go home to and a path to break the cycle of dysfunction.

Will always love the fact that she knows she had (edited ^_^) SIX uncles. She proves that Allison, no matter how estranged, truly cares for her siblings pre-canon. All of them.

Grace Hargreeves

It is. Team. Robo-Mom. All The Freakin Way. I love her so much. She's so tragic and the most wholesome parental figure the children have hands down. Among all the Hargreeves, she has the least amount of agency to work with and it's brilliantly shown and it's freakin gut-wrenching.

She's literally the only one that has absolutely no choice on what's going on around her. Even though her entire programming is to be the Caretaker, A Nanny turned Mother because she can evolve and (gfdi I'm crying) and Reginald undoubtedly took away her choices to care for her children properly because He is a Great Alien Man who knows better, the prick.

She has been tampered with and framed in a m*rder-s*icide driving a wedge between her and her children (common tactic of Reginald it seems: isolation and conflict) and helpless to correct them on anything.

But the moment that she wasn't helpless. The moment Pogo fixed and brought her to normal, despite the fact that he ordered her to never reveal anything. The moment that she was given enough of a leeway to make a decision that will affect others. She chose her children. And I believe if given all the choices in the world, she always will.

After all her main programming is to care.

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Anonymous asked:

Because it's such a common (and fun) trope among the fandom by now, do you think killing Reginald would actually help these kids? Not just him dying (preferably without messing them up beyond the grave this time) but them doing the deed, cause that sounds like it could also be traumatic in reality?

You're on to something. I think people talk about one of the kids killing Reg because it would be cathartic for us as an audience, not because it would actually be cathartic for the characters.

In my experience and the experience of some people I'm close enough to talk about this with, facing the death of an abuser tends to bring on mixed feelings. I was not abused nearly to the extent the Hargreeveses were. I had enough positive experiences with my mother that I find Luther incredibly relatable, really. And you see so many mixed feelings from Luther about his father, and I appreciate that so much. You also see those feelings become less mixed the longer it's been since his dreadful epiphany in season one. Come 2.06, he doesn't want to even look at the man, and when he does, he winds up screaming at him--while looking surprised that he's doing it.

But having mixed feelings when you think about your abusive parent's death is leagues and leagues away from being willing to murder them yourself. If one of the siblings does it, I will expect there to be psychological consequences to it.

The reality is that this would be vengeance, when what these people really needed was rescue. And it's too late for that.

That's actually one of the theories I've read about revictimization--being drawn to someone you perceive as strong enough to protect you as a fulfillment of rescue fantasies you had when you were being abused. It's only one theory, of course, and it won't explain every case of revictimization out there, but it makes a point: there should have been a rescue. This should not have happened to this person. No course of action taken now can make things right.

So if a Hargreeves looks at this man and considers killing him, they may choose not to do so because there's no point. None of them murder for no reason. I know we all love our chaotic murder goblin Five, but this applies to him as well. The last time he had a chance to kill, he dropped the gun and said, "Enough." For any of them to deliberately murder their father would require a pretty drastic change in their character--or for the stakes to require it.

For example, the Umbrellas may no longer be under Reg's roof, dealing with his abuse, but the Sparrows are. Including a particular Sparrow. I'm just saying.

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A fun question for the TUA fans that aren´t native English speakers: do you say Five´s name as the number in your native language or do you say it in English like they say it in the show? I say it in English, and when I hear someone saying it in Swedish I immidiatly want to corretct them asdfgh

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I say it in English lol because Five is more a name for him than a number now. He might be one of Reggie's numbers then, But Five owns that now 😤 He is. He's own Number.

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