yo, inclusionists, quit supporting this person

that post titled “My Aphobia/Stalker Story”? by a user called “typical-atheist-scumbag”? (don’t really feel like @ ing them directly because i’d really just prefer to never have to interact with them)

that person is literally a self-proclaimed “anti-SJW” racist homophobe.

and i mean, like. super racist and homophobic.

just a few examples:

so maybe?? stop reblogging the post they made?????

lookin’ at you especially @justaphobethings…

HI! First of all… I’m not pro-Trump, I’m bi ace and have no problem with gay people. Also, if you actually knew my opinion I would have  told you a ban went too far and vetted refugees should be allowed. There were also Muslim countries that weren’t on that list Secondly, I’m not racist, I just don’t think blm helps racial minorities. I think they’re harming us! And FINALLY, I”M A TRAUMA SURVIVOR!!! Not just this stalking either. I’ve been sexually abused on and off throughout my life. Not only that, but I’ve also had to deal with being physically and mentally abused my whole life. Including all kinds of purposeful torment I have triggers! You know that? Did you ever think that maybe my point was to bring awareness to the horrific things I have had to go through? Did you ever think of that? No, you stupid fucking piece of shit are too busy slandering me and blocking me so I can’t defend myself, right? Fuck you.

I like how you and your friends (or whomever they are to you) are calling this “libel” as though I’m intentionally making things up about you.

I literally don’t fucking care if your actual opinion slightly differs from the post you reblogged about the refugee ban. The point is that you reblogged it completely without criticism, and it’s an insanely Islamophobic post. Openly reblogging posts like that with zero criticism and then never mentioning your real opinion (which still isn’t totally morally decent) until someone calls you out isn’t a good way to make it clear where you stand.

The same goes for you supporting Trump. You’re clearly defending him in certain posts on your blog, so do the semantics of the term “pro-Trump” really even fucking matter when you’re referring to him as “the guy who’s done great things for our country”?

I see in another reblog of this post, someone’s mentioned that you’re mixed-race with the implication that this somehow changes things. Good for you! Congratulations! You can still be racist, though! Especially when you talk less about how you supposedly believe BLM is harming POC, and more about how BLM is a “terrorist group” that is “racist towards whites”!

Oh, and guess what? I’d wager to say that a significant amount of homophobes would be quick to state that they “have no problem with gay people”. Contrary to popular (homophobic) belief, homophobia is not strictly limited to flat-out hating gay people or otherwise having some kind of “problem” with us as a group! Homophobia, like any instance of ignorance suffered by a marginalized people, is a spectrum. There are obvious homophobic acts, like gay kids getting beaten up at school while being called “queers”, or people in crowded streets holding up signs that say, “FAGS BURN IN HELL”. But then there’s also the kind of stuff you’re doing. Which is taking instances of homophobia (on the more “casual” end of the spectrum) described by gay people, asserting TO these people that such instances are NOT homophobic, and then telling them to “grow the fuck up” or calling their claims “insane” instead of attempting to understand how these instances are in fact rooted in homophobic ideas passed down and drilled into our heads over centuries of ignorance and oppression.

So, no, I don’t care that you’re bi. You can still easily, easily be homophobic. Internalized homophobia is very much a thing.

Last but most certainly not least, you being a trauma survivor literally is not relevant, here! Being traumatized doesn’t mean you’re a pure angel and everyone should ignore all of your shitty, harmful beliefs! The point of my original post was to try and get people to stop giving you a platform. Like, for instance, I wouldn’t care if a trans person wrote a post about transphobia that I avidly agreed with and would love to reblog – if that trans person was a massive racist, I wouldn’t reblog their post! Because I don’t support that kind of shit, no matter how much I agree with that one post of theirs!

I just find it incredibly telling how cishet ace inclusionist tumblr will wail, “OP IS AN APHOBE!” on every fucking post, and dozens if not hundreds of inclusionists will block and stop supporting that blogger, but when I point out to them that a person they’re eagerly supporting and giving a platform to reblogs this kind of shit:

Crickets! Nobody says a thing! Nobody cares! As long as someone agrees with them on ace discourse, inclusionists appear to be more than willing to support that person no matter how harmful their other beliefs are.

And it’s not even like most inclusionists are “anti-SJWs”. Quite the opposite. A huge amount of them are leaning way more towards the “SJW” side, and they’re supposed to be against your kind of beliefs.

Just goes to show where their priorities lie. They’d rather desperately scrape together slivers of evidence for why they’re right than stand up for their alleged morals.

Oh – one last thing. Are you claiming that I specifically blocked you so that you couldn’t respond to me? Because I have literally never blocked you. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t you be…… unable to reblog this post at all if I had you blocked……?

Well, I couldn’t reblog it before, so what did you expect me to think? If you didn’t actually block me, that’s my bad. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. @discoursezilla Let me tell you what else you got wrong about me, since you still think that you’re more moral than I am. Let me show both of our follower groups that your piece of shit and you lied about me. I want to make sure that you are properly slammed for going after a someone who is a victim of stalking, CSA, lifelong abuse and other types of trauma because you don’t like their opinions. You called me a homophobe because I said that the rainbow did not belong only to the LGBT community, which is my opinion as a member. (Bi ace) I am a big advocate of freedom of expression, I don’t like the idea of an entire group of people not being allowed to use certain symbols or designs because they belong to a different group of people. Especially when the rainbow is a symbol of so many different things. Why should it be exclusive to only one group of people? So you lied about that. I don’t have any kind of issue with people being gay lesbian or really whatever the hell they want to be as long as they’re not hurting anyone. I don’t really see what’s wrong with that. You still tried to make it look like I outright hated gay people. Also, my comment about “ people liking to fucks certain people” was a bit of Politically Incorrect humor, I really don’t like political correctness. I don’t like how it makes people feel the need to walk on eggshells around me. Also, I didn’t take an actual story of homophobia where somebody said something terrible or did something terrible to LGBT people simply because they were LGBT. That linked me to the same post. The comment about the refugee ban was in poor taste, but if you look at my side blog @angry-skepic you would know that I don’t even believe that 911 was done by Muslims. you realize though that there are still 40 majority Muslim countries that ban would not have affected and and all the countries that it did affect were on Obama’s list of terrorist threats, right? You then called me, a mixed-race individual, a racist for disagreeing with black lives matter because of their violent and anti-white rhetoric, and their hatred of police. This by the way is not me defending police, I know there are some shit heads that wear that uniform. That said, there are a lot of good people with good intentions that wear that uniform to protect civilians. Also, I brought up that thing about me being a trauma Survivor because you said I tried to trigger trauma survivors when I myself have triggers and know how horrible they can be. I would never do something like that or wish it on my worst enemy, they have made me cry before and I am not an emotional person. I didn’t suggest that any of this stuff happened to me to make anyone think I was an angel, I simply said that because the fact that I got lied about like that about that particular thing really lit a fire under me. Oh and as far as the Trump comment, he was doing pretty decently at VERY the beginning, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and I was hoping he would stay on a good path. I was seeing him do some pretty good things and I was happy about it, I went a little overboard, but I was happy about it. Am I not allowed to want our president to succeed and do good things? It’s not like I agree with a ton of his politics, even then I didn’t Also, I know that a lot of inclusionists are SJWS. That’s fine, I’ve known a few sjws in real life, you can agree with people on some things and not on others. It’s really not that hard to understand I like some ace content. I’m sure there are people that follow me that don’t agree with certain things I’ve posted. When I first came on here I was somewhat more extreme and I had people tell me that they liked me, but they didn’t agree with some of the things that I was posting. Now will you kindly stop spreading bullshit about me? You do not do that to somebody! You really should be ashamed of yourself, so should all the people you sent after me. My entire point of sharing my story to begin with was because I was in a dark place over that and other trauma-related problems and wanted to spread awareness because I feel like the words stalking and harassment are so overused by people. I also know that people like me who deal with it for the reasons that I have dealt with it or not very visible, so I thought it would help in that regard too. Oh yeah, one last thing. What’s wrong with me not believing that all these people are oppressed? We all have the same rights in this country, we all have opportunities. I work very hard at everything I do, saying that I am oppressed because I’m disabled and a few other things is really insulting to me. It implies that I can’t succeed on my own. I don’t like that. Don’t you see something wrong with it? Are you done lying about me and bothering me now? Are you going to renounce the fact that you tried to make it look like I hated gay people and non-white people? How about the fact that you lied and said I was trying to trigger trauma survivors? Or are you just going to leave me alone like you should have done in the first place? I’ll take either or. I would like an apology for the lies that you posted about me though, not that I expect one. I’d be perfectly happy if you just fucked off. @beardedrebutterofafkar I really appreciate you sticking up for me. Thank you again. @threefunnypeople @the-jingler @sini-sterility In case you’re wondering, this is still going on. Good Lord.

Oh. I think what’s happening is that you’re mixing me up with another blog. I’m not discoursezilla. Perhaps they have you blocked, and I believe they are the one who reblogged this post and said you were trying to trigger trauma survivors. I never talked about that, and I don’t believe that was your intention.

That specific LGBT post wasn’t just about someone using a rainbow and it being homophobic. That’s oversimplification. What I gather from the post is that using rainbow heart-shaped cards was originally a tradition for Panic! at the Disco fans at concerts for the song “Girls/Girls/Boys”, which is a song about women loving other women. The image shows the same rainbow heart-shaped cards being used for a Twenty One Pilots concert in celebration of a straight couple’s anniversary. Whoever came up with that completely ignored the point of the original tradition and the fact that the rainbow colors were a direct symbol for the LGBT flag. I’m not saying that this is a devastating blow to the community, but it is homophobic to take something made by the LGBT community for the LGBT community and use it for your own unrelated thing without altering it at all or even acknowledging that it’s supposed to celebrate being gay. People are allowed to be upset over that, and I think telling LGBT people to “grow the fuck up” in response to something that they perceive as homophobic is in and of itself homophobic.

So, uhhh, nope, I didn’t lie about you. Literally at all. Just so you’re aware, lying involves saying something that you KNOW isn’t true. If I actually believe that what I’m saying is true, I cannot, by definition, be lying. And I do believe that some of what you say and think is homophobic. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean that I’m lying. They’re called opinions. Not “we all definitely know the truth here, and anyone who says otherwise is purposefully lying”.

I really don’t feel like arguing over the details of the rest. I’ve already stated why I made the original post, and I stand by it.

Alright, @discoursekillua, I'm going to be very very honest with you because I am rather angry right now. I was going to try to limit the amount of swearing I did in this response to you, but I don't really give a damn anymore because I'm so fucking sick of having to deal with you people! I am so fucking sick of having the entire goddamn "discourse" side of Tumblr constantly make posts about me and libel me then double down and act like they did absolutely nothing wrong when I have proven them wrong so many goddamn times about every fucking empty criticism they had for me. I'll get back to your post though, you stand by it? Congratulations then, you're a fucking liar and you knew exactly what you were doing from the get-go. Just like I said you did. And if you didn't, congratulations you're fucking liar because you know what you did now! Either way you're a fucking liar and I have proven that time and time again. Tell me how in that entire post, you only got one thing half right. You called me and islamophobe. That's not necessarily true the way that the left uses the term, because I don't hate Muslims. One of my best friends is Muslim and I like him more than I like most non Muslim people. However, I do hate Islam, it is a disgusting belief system! Absolutely fucking terrible. It is a misogynist, transphobic, homophobic belief system. I am allowed to criticize a belief system without hating the entire group of people that hold some or all of those beliefs, which by the way I realize that not all Muslims are transphobic, homophobic misogynists, and I never judge someone poorly just because they are Muslim. However, I do judge their ideology very very harshly, which is my right because they either want me dead or severely oppressed. I have the right to criticize that. So no, I don't hate Muslims but I really don't like their beliefs. Islam is not a race, it is a belief system and there are Muslims of all colors races and creeds. As far as the rest of the stuff, it's my right to also believe that we are not the only group of people that owns the rainbow. Especially considering the fact that I believe in freedom of expression and if I wanted cisgender straight people to never be able to use the rainbow, I wouldn't be for free speech or free expression. The rainbow has only been being used by the LGBT community for 50 years or so before, it was a symbol of other things and it's always existed and meant different things to different people. I don't want someone who really enjoys rainbows to not be able to use it by virtue of their sexuality or gender. To me, that's wrong! If you don't see something wrong with somebody not being able to use the rainbow as a symbol of whatever they want to use it for by virtue of their sexuality or gender, I'm sorry, but you're the bigot, not me. To me, there is nothing wrong with the rainbow being a pride symbol, it's a great pride symbol, the problem comes when nobody else is allowed to use that symbol especially when it's by virtue of how they were born. Do you not see something wrong with that? I've already debunked the hell out of everything that you said, so, if you want to keep lying about me like this, that's on you and you're the one that's making yourself look like a fool. You are officially a liar, if you want one before because now you know what you're doing. You are a pathetic piece of shit and I am glad to see how much this has backfired on you because I'm sick of having to fucking deal with you and every little one of your buddies that has decided to add on to your pile of bullshit here. But go ahead, you can't possibly Double Down anymore than you already have! Oh wait, I shouldn't say that! That'll be the one thing that I've said that you'll ever be able to prove wrong! By the way, why do you suddenly care about opinions now? Why do you only care about opinions when they fit your narrative or when they are your opinions? Why didn't you care about my opinion on Islam which is a belief system that wants me dead? Why do you suddenly defend this as just opinions when when you made this post, you stated these as fact? Do you want me to answer that for you? Oh yeah, it's because you're a fucking hypocrite and you got called out on your bullshit and now this is the only way you think you're going to get away with it. I Not that it matters what I say, I identify as the wrong thing! So no matter what, I'm always going to be wrong in your eyes. You'll just keep lying about me, you'll just keep trying harder and harder to grasp at those straws. Fuck you, I hope that everyone else that sees this realizes what a disgusting, hypocritical, bigoted piece of shit you really are. Don't show up anymore, you're just embarrassing yourself.

yo, inclusionists, quit supporting this person

that post titled “My Aphobia/Stalker Story”? by a user called “typical-atheist-scumbag”? (don’t really feel like @ ing them directly because i’d really just prefer to never have to interact with them)

that person is literally a self-proclaimed “anti-SJW” racist homophobe.

and i mean, like. super racist and homophobic.

just a few examples:

so maybe?? stop reblogging the post they made?????

lookin’ at you especially @justaphobethings…

HI! First of all... I’m not pro-Trump, I’m bi ace and have no problem with gay people. Also, if you actually knew my opinion I would have  told you a ban went too far and vetted refugees should be allowed. There were also Muslim countries that weren’t on that list Secondly, I’m not racist, I just don’t think blm helps racial minorities. I think they’re harming us! And FINALLY, I”M A TRAUMA SURVIVOR!!! Not just this stalking either. I’ve been sexually abused on and off throughout my life. Not only that, but I’ve also had to deal with being physically and mentally abused my whole life. Including all kinds of purposeful torment I have triggers! You know that? Did you ever think that maybe my point was to bring awareness to the horrific things I have had to go through? Did you ever think of that? No, you stupid fucking piece of shit are too busy slandering me and blocking me so I can’t defend myself, right? Fuck you.

that is the most fucked up dystopic name for a town i’ve ever seen 

this is the future republicans want

I’m no fan of Republicans either, because I don’t believe in the left-right paradigm, but isn’t it you Democrats that are doing most of the censoring and quickly sending us to 1984? Or r blacklivesmatter, antifa and the like not really on the left?

Hey, could you maybe shut the fuck up?

Fuck off, typical-atheist-scumbag, you’re an idiot and an asshole

>calls me an idiot. >has nothing intelligent to say.

Look, I’m a bi ace… I’m telling you both heterophobia and aphobia exists… I am stalked because of the latter, and @sini-sterility can not only vouch the fact that is the case, but she can also attest to the fact that aphobia exists. Oh and by the way, we’re both “anti sjws.”

Mk uh ~aphobia~ is literally just saying that asexuality isn’t inherently LGBT but go on and tell me how that’s just as bad or even worse than homophobia. Hey @herefortheace @ungracefulace look another anti SJW on your side!

That’s not the biggest thing I have a problem with though… the biggest thing that I have a problem with is you saying heterophobia and aphobia don’t exist (which they clearly do) and saying that these things cannot be as bad as homophobia. Which is ridiculous, since when is how bad your wrongdoing is based on who you do it to? By the way, asexual people that prefer the opposite sex are technically still LGBT if you consider the fact that they are not attracted to the opposite sex sexually. Also, this is a minor example of aphobia, that doesn’t mean more serious cases of aphobia don’t exist. I was when I called you aphobic, I was more so referring to a screenshot of a conversation I saw involving you. Still a minor example, but that is not it any less real. It doesn’t make my being stalked any less real either.

Nor my being raped because my ex girlfriend wanted to “fix me” when I told her I wasn’t comfortable with her sticking her hands down my pants. Shit happened to us because we’re asexual. Deny it all you want, but that it happened SOLELY because of that fact makes it a textbook example of violent bigotry. 

That’s HORRIBLE and your ex girlfriend is a literal fucking monster but isolated incidents are not oppression. Oppression has to be institutionalized.

@sapiosexual-positivity I usually try not to get heated this quickly, but are you fucking kidding me? What would make that valid in your eyes, then!? Getting raped constantly? Fuck you for deligitimizing my friends right because it doesn't fit your narrative! Neither of us even said it was institutionalized don't put words in our mouths. We're just saying that it exists and it doesn't have to be institutionalized to exist. How about being stalked or having a girl try to force herself and other people on you sexually? Does that count? Or does that not matter because it proves my point? @sini-sterility, if you didn't message me, I would have forgot to tag so we're even.

“All aces are bad because some idiot ace some where laughed at aides…” Why do I get the feeling that you have only seen that once? @sini-sterility, this is the blog that confused me.

Yup. This is a unique kind of stupid.

@typical-atheist-scumbag @sini-sterility just take a look through this post and get back to me

anyways, if your response to me saying “there is a trend in the ace community where serophobia is consistently given a platform” is to say “NOT ALL ACES!!” then like…….. wyd

Dude you realize that literally only the last picture on that post was even relevant to what you were just saying? All right, you got me; I have now seen literally exactly one single person make an AIDS joke. But none of these others are even remotely bigoted towards people with AIDS or HIV. Stretch before you reach on literally all of the pictures shown except that last one.

please explain how this picture is not serophobic

Okay. I’ve finally gotten to look at the rest of the post, since apparently tumblr’s app has a NEW new bug to fix. And honestly, yeah; there’s a lot of shitty people on that post. Not all of them, but quite a few of them. However, that really doesn’t justify saying that every single Asexual is bigoted towards people with HIV and AIDS. Not that that justifies those guys being shitheads, both of you are kind of in the wrong here. “Phobia” (though when used as a descriptor for people being bigots, they aren’t really scared of those people, they’re just being mean for no reason to people) aren’t okay no matter what people you look at, and there’s really nothing you can tell me that’s going to change my mind on that. I’ll apologize for these fucks who’ve decided they can be bigots and assholes and hide behind the Asexual name, but that’s where the line is drawn. The bulk of us have done nothing wrong. 

please point out to me where i said “every single Asexual” is serophobic ? i just pointed out the serophobia in the community present in the community. if your response to that is “Not All Aces!!” then….. idk what to tell you

Well, howdy do about that! You did exactly what I thought you were going to do. So after this one, I’m going to stop responding because I really don’t need to put myself through any more of this bullshit.

“ you’ve legitimately never come across the MULTITUDE of posts with things like “asexual snickering” 

You showed us about 12, which is admittedly 12 too many, that were actually bigotted. 12 is a dozen. It’s not a “multitude”.

“ if your head is that far down in the dirt that you’re not aware of the serophobia from the ace community, “

Again you implied that this is a huge overwhelming rampant problem in my community. It’s not. It’s maybe like 60 people at most, all across the world, and we don’t want them either.

“ if your response to me…….. is to say “NOT ALL ACES!!” then like…….. wyd”

“  if your response to that is “Not All Aces!!” then….. idk what to tell you “

Newsflash: If you say shit that implies you think that three different people in a period of two fucking hours pointing out that what you’re talking about is by literally no means a widespread problem that isn’t already being looked down upon and generates disapproval/callings out within our own community is an excuse that has no real bearings, then your head is way too far up your ass and you will probably need to shampoo that shit really well before you go to bed tonight.

Those four examples are from this thread alone. Who knows what else I’ll find if I looks through the rest of your blog. 

Now I’m done. Maybe one day you’ll be a big enough person to admit your own mistakes, too.

That's still only one Post in those twelve. The other one was about a novel where a sexual people save the world from STDs or something. That didn't even mention AIDS. The other posts had pretty much nothing to do with anything and there was another one that just said asexual people should split from the LGBT community but did not use give AIDS as a reason. @sini-sterility, she could only find that one post, I think I cleared this up for you in a message yesterday. @slimecourse is something pretty special, while trying to prove that there is an epidemic of asexual people making fun of aides, she proved the complete opposite. She proved that one asexual person made fun of AIDS one time and she saw it. Just like I said, how predictable do you have to be? That's what really what I said right before she put together that little post full of "evidence." Remember that?

“All aces are bad because some idiot ace some where laughed at aides…” Why do I get the feeling that you have only seen that once? @sini-sterility, this is the blog that confused me.

Yup. This is a unique kind of stupid.

@typical-atheist-scumbag @sini-sterility just take a look through this post and get back to me

anyways, if your response to me saying “there is a trend in the ace community where serophobia is consistently given a platform” is to say “NOT ALL ACES!!” then like…….. wyd

Okay, so I didn’t get to post this before you responded. But @sini-sterility and I both follow every ace blog we find and the ONLY time we’ve come accross it is this conversation, what we are suggesting is that one post does not equal an epidemic, as I suggested when I said you have only seen it one time. Looking at your blog, you seem pretty eager to shit on this community.

that’s nice anyways if you look through that post i linked you’ll see that it’s not “one post” it’s a perpetuated belief

Hey @iicraft505, wanna laugh? Apparently we aces like to laugh at aides all day long. Only one post in that entire thing had anything to do with AIDS. that one post was very ignorant, but that doesn’t change the fact that it was one fucking post. How many posts did you put up there? Could you seriously only find one that fits your narrative? I mean, you had one idiot talking about AIDS, one idiot being an asshole about the LGBT community, and not even mentioning AIDS, and you had a bunch of other posts that had nothing to do with anything, do you mind telling me how this signals an epidemic? All it does is tell me that you have no idea what you’re talking about whatsoever and that engaging with you is a complete waste of time aside from the entertainment value. Please, come up with some actual evidence next time you want to argue with me. And if you want to send some Anonymous hate my way you know my fucking in box is opened and constantly full of idiots like you.

gay men: cant hit on men without risk of being murdered by straight people

gay men: cant go to gay bars without risk of being murdered by straight people

gay men: cant use dating apps without risk of being murdered by straight people

gay men: cant d pda without risk of being murdered

gay men: are overall murdered at a higher rate than any lgbt people with the exception of black trans women

hellsite: gay men are the straights of the lgbt community 

Holy Lord… The amount of ignorance and bigotry in this post, my God. I mean, the amount of ignorance and bigotry on this blog and general, but this post is special. @sini-sterility, you know what this is for.

how is this bigoted…?

like im not even mocking you i just have no idea how this can come off as bigoted in any way

Your attitude towards straight people is very apparent here. Also, a lot of those people that go on gay dating sites and kill gay people are probably gay themselves. Jeffrey Dahmer was gay, the Pulse Nightclub shooter was most likely a closeted homosexual… so I kind of forget who it was that raise this point, but don’t actually straight people just go on these dating sites and murdered gay people because they’re gay, they don’t. A lot of the people that carry out these atrocities are mentally unstable people who are LGBT themselves and either has very sadistic fantasies or dislike the fact that they are gay themselves, usually for religious reasons. Like I said though, there are a lot of serial killers that end up looking for certain types of victim for one reason or another. Most of the time it is because they resent a certain family members four aspect of themselves that they look for in other people in order to vent their rage. This is something that happens to all kinds of people. It’s important that you understand that because your dislike or people that are not part of your community is unnecessary and it’s not fair to those who are not whatever you say that entire demographic of people is. I mentioned this to @sini-sterility yesterday. As much as I hate to say so, misinformation and attitudes like these make me resent the possibility that I’m LGBT. From what I’ve seen, there’s a lot of unfounded hatred there. Running around spouting off all this crap about how straight people just walk around murdering gay people or they’re just out there to get them in some way is not going to help your relationship with them or yourself. It’s going to do the opposite.

i…generally have no idea where to begin on this reblog. im just kinda…in shock that someone wrote out an essay about how homophobic hate crimes are actually done by gay people… i just…oh my god. @discourseful @halemmerichdiscourse @the-ace-community can one of y'all take over for me this is just nasty. its not ace discourse its just just…i have no idea

Dude, do you mind telling me how explaining that not all people that kill gay people are straight and that a lot (as in NOT ALL) of them actually have issues with their own sexuality is homophobic? I’m not saying that there’s never a straight person that goes one some Rampage killing gay people for one reason or another and I’m not saying that straight people never kill gay people in Western countries. What I am trying to address here, (if you actually try to read through somebody else’s opinion without immediately assuming they are homophobic) is that you guys act like the only people who ever kill gay people are straight people and that straight people just walk around killing gay people for sport, in Western countries. Which, in case nobody told you… It’s not fucking true. If it is, we would see way more hate crime convictions than we do. All I’m trying to suggest is that not all crazy people who kill people for their sexualities are straight. I’m trying, as somebody who used to be very obsessed with forensic psychology to tell you that a lot of killers that kill LGBT people are LGBT themselves. Serial killers often try to pick people with certain attributes, such as being gay if they themselves are gay to ritualistically destroy something that they do not like about themselves. This is something that has been seen with many serial killers. There are also a lot of serial killers have sadistic sexual fantasies that they look for a certain type of person to fulfill, such as Jeffrey Dahmer. Jeffrey Dahmer was a gay man who had some very sick fantasies and wanted to act on them. There’s a difference between me suggesting that not all killers gay people are straight and having some wildly homophobic opinion about gay people. If you don’t realize that, you are the one with the problem, not me. A quick recap for the stupid: not all killers of gay people are straight. Some are gay themselves. Not all killers of gay people are gay either, and everyone carries that risk when it comes to dating, especially on the internet. I’m not saying that this is not a problem, it clearly is… what I am saying is that it’s not a strictly LGBT vs. Straight problem, and it’s also not strictly LGBT problem in general. Victims of hate crimes that were motivated by the assailant disliking LGBT people for whatever reason should be treated harshly, but the problem comes when people start producing fear porn such as this saying that even if you live in an open Society like North America or Western Europe, straight people are going to come hunt you or sport. That’s not true, and there are many young people on this site who are struggling with their sexuality that are probably going to be afraid of people who are straight because this type of shit. I don’t think I can make my stance any clearer for you idiots. The fact that I even had to clarify this at all probably prove that you’re not going to listen and you’re just going to scream homophobe the moment you get halfway through this period I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but you’re really making this hard. I have nothing against gay people, their rights or their issues being addressed. I’m just trying to remind some people that are struggling with their sexuality (like myself) that if they live in a first world country, they’re not going to have some kind of a mob attack them like in Russia . what they are going to have is mostly acceptance. I also wanted to address the idea that this only happens to gay people, and because of that people should be afraid of straight people if they are not straight period that is not true, all I’m asking here is that you people stop promoting fear porn like this. It’s harmful to the very gay people that you claim you’re trying to protect. Someone somewhere was probably afraid to use a gay dating app because of this bullshit. Did I cover my bases, @sini-sterility?

im just glad that youre just talking about gay people at this point bc if you said “most people who brutally murder trans people (mostly twoc) are trans themselves uwu” it would be more untrue than any of the discourse ive seen. thank god you arent going there. i probably just jynxed it now. fuck.

also, tbh im not gonna waste my time responding. if you dont identify as lgbt no offense but this isnt really your thing to speak on because it doesnt affect you.

Also, transgender people are approximately 0.3% of the population, how the hell would most people that murder trans people be trans themselves? Anybody that has any grip on statistics would never say something like that, I happen to… So, why don’t you fuck off?

The scumbag part of your URL is right this is why everyone thinks atheists are

annoying

Not really, it's more because of the unbearable self- righteous social justice Warriors. By the way, my name is my name because it is meant to satirize that. But no, I'm a bad person because I don't immediately think straight people are bigots that are hunting lgbt people for sport. Your actions here are also a huge reason why people don't like atheists. Note that you are an atheist who doesn't like my opinion on other matters, so you have to hurt you signal and tell everyone that you're not like other atheists you're not like me! Oh no! Anyone who has any other opinions besides yours automatically evil and a bigot. I'm probably considered queer too this is an even bigger reason why I go after this particular community so much. It's because this type of Division, fear porn and the resulting victim narrative is not going to get it on anywhere, it's only going to drive us further into isolation and ultimately make it hard to have any sort of relations outside of our little group. Divide and conquer always seems to work like a charm. I still can't get over the irony of the fact that gave me shit over my name when my name was meant to satirize this very Behavior and the Very stereotype of atheists that I addressed. Do you just not know irony when you see it?

“ace people just want to be comfortable in a community!” then let them make their own? you’re saying i, a gay person, have to be UNcomfortable in my OWN fucking community so cishet aces can feel cool about not wanting to have sex? ofc gay/bi/trans aces are lgbt because they’re oppressed for their gender (preference) but for fuck’s sake i’m not gonna let cis straight people in just because they feel like an outsider sometimes. next thing you know nerds are now lgbt cause they wanna fuck princess peach

@sini-sterility, this... Is a special kind of ignorance.