How are you "forced" to wear makeup/shave.
because if you don’t conform to beauty expectations nobody takes you seriously. it’s much harder for most women to get a job or to even get basic respect from people without wearing makeup and looking otherwise “presentable”. not having a job obviously leads to poverty and death so women just conform instead. it can’t be called a fair choice when one option gets you the short end of the stick. there shouldn’t be dire consequences like this for women making harmless choices.
Idk where the fuck you live, but where I am, nobody gives a shit whether or not a lady looks feminine. If a female does not conform to the beauty standards, or if she is kinda masculine, she will just be seen as a tomboy or somebody who doesn’t care about gender normes. I never wear makeup, and I haven’t shaved for months (mostly because of winter lol), I even wore a fucking suit to prom, and I was the only girl at my school who did. Yeah, people might talk shit about because of that, but frankly, I don’t care. If the worst consequences I have to face for not being feminine is that a few shitheads talk badly about me, then I don’t see the problem. Also, I have seen multiple women in many different proffessions who doesn’t conform to feminine standards. I’ve seen overweight, or even obese women with a job, I’ve seen women who don’t wear makeup that has a job, I’ve seen women who wears makeup but looks bad with it who has a job.
Maybe all you said happens someplaces, but definately not everywhere.
good for you. obviously you’re quite young if you just went to prom. when you’re still a teenager the consequences aren’t as apparent as when you’re a adult living outside of school. all of this discourse has literally been random people responding to my shit being like “that doesnt happen!!! feminism is fake!!” like YES, i guess women across the globe are just lying for attention. you caught me!!!! /s
@cheshireinthemiddle @alaija care to add. I did the last one.
> it’s much harder for most women to get a job or to even get basic respect from people without wearing makeup and looking otherwise “presentable”.
I bolded the part where the goalposts hopped into an Uber.
Also, I like how you think men generally don’t have to look decent to get a job or respect.
> not having a job obviously leads to poverty and death so women just conform instead.
Look at all those destitute housewives and househusbands and children and elderly.
Also, savings don’t exist.
> obviously you’re quite young if you just went to prom. when you’re still a teenager the consequences aren’t as apparent as when you’re a adult living outside of school.
That sure looks like a handwave. I like the part where you ignore all the exceptions 240 pointed out.
Also, you don’t know how long ago the prom happened. 240 could be a college graduate, unless you think gender roles about appearance changed drastically in the past four or five years.
> all of this discourse has literally been random people responding to my shit being like “that doesnt happen!!! feminism is fake!!” like YES, i guess women across the globe are just lying for attention. you caught me!!!! /s
So saying that someone is wrong is the same as saying they’re lying. Which is why you only patronized 440 for being inexperienced instead of calling her a liar.
Gee, it’s almost as if you’re making up standards based on convenience.
Wow! People prefer to look at Attractive people? Never would have guessed! Did you ever think that maybe some women wear makeup and shave because they like to look presentable and have some basic respect for themselves and their bodies? Or is it all because they want male attention in your eyes? Seriously, how low is your view of women if all you can possibly believe when one wants to look presentable is that they’re doing it for the benefit of other people and not for themselves? Do you see what I mean when I say that feminism has no respect for women? If not, you do now. @sini-sterility, @iicraft505 you guys are going to enjoy this one. @the-jingler, you might too, if not then you’ll just see why I fucking hate feminism. It’s just so insulting.