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Anonymous asked:

do you need to take stuff for vaginal atrophy if you don't use your vagina for sexual intercourse? or if you don't have sex at all?

sorry if this question has an obvious answer, the sources about vaginal atrophy i personally have seen never mentioned it.

Lee says:

I'm not surprised you've never seen this mentioned-- unfortunately, there isn't enough open discussion of this type of thing in the trans community.

I think that's partially due to a lack of institutional knowledge; there aren't many studies on these issues so doctors/providers aren't able to tell you the average percentage of people who experience mild/moderate/severe atrophy per time spent taking testosterone.

When there's no Official Statistic saying "only 5% of people have severe atrophy within the first year of taking T, but 95% of people have X, Y, and Z symptom of severe atrophy after 15 years on T," (that is an example!) it can be hard to provide guidance about how often these things occur because the community-level knowledge is mostly based on personal anecdotes and word-of-mouth.

The general stigma around discussing sex and sexuality in relationship with trans bodies makes it even more difficult for people to bring up the topic because it seems some people worry that they will be invalidated by others in the community if they assert their identity as a trans man, for example, while also saying they like to be vaginally penetrated.

The final barrier in having these discussions besides the straight-up issue of lack of knowledge is people's (understandable) reluctance to talk about parts of their bodies that may make them feel dysphoric.

In my opinion, that's the hardest barrier to overcome. Encouraging more research into how testosterone changes the body (for example, how much clitoral growth is average) and addressing the way toxic masculinity and transphobia intertwine to create self-policing/gatekeeping and stigma within the community are both things that people can campaign to do, but it's hard to try and make people discuss something that is deeply uncomfortable for them to acknowledge because of dysphoria, and it's important to respect people's boundaries on that.

But it's still an important issue, and I'm a big proponent of being open about health issues that affect people who have medically transitioned, so as y'all know, I've been on T myself for close to 5 years now and I have been prescribed localized estrogen for atrophy that affects my sex life, but I haven't had any issues with atrophy in my day-to-day life.

I've been lucky enough to have open and frank conversations with several folks who have been on T for more years than I have, and the majority of folks I've talked to have had similar experiences to my own, but there is some variation.

Some people do end up experiencing symptoms of vaginal atrophy like dryness, itching, and UTIs that bother them on a daily basis and they find it helpful to take localized estrogen to treat those symptoms even though they aren't having sex that involves being vaginally penetrated.

Other folks find that the atrophy they're experiencing is less severe, and they only have discomfort when they are penetrated vaginally, so they wouldn't necessarily need localized estrogen if they chose to not have that type of sex and would rather explore other sexual acts instead of taking localized estrogen.

And there are some folks who don't feel like they have an issue with atrophy even after years on T, or have such minor atrophy that using plenty of lube during sex resolves the issue, so they don't need localized estrogen at all.

There are also some situations where a person with atrophy may want to take localized estrogen, like in preparation for a vaginally-assisted surgery. For example, some hysterectomy techniques are vaginally assisted, and recovery time may be quicker if the vaginal tissue is more robust and not atrophied.

So not everyone needs to take stuff for vaginal atrophy if they don't use their vagina for sexual intercourse, but it will depend on the individual in question as there are certain situations (like severe atrophy or pre-op surgery prep) where it might be recommend.

Or if you stop taking testosterone while you're younger (aka pre-menopause) and still have your ovaries (aka haven't had an oophorectomy), then atrophy shouldn't be a major problem for you because it is a reversible testosterone change and should eventually revert back after you stop taking T.

But atrophy does occur to even cisgender non-intersex women with ovaries once they've gone through menopause, so you'll likely end up with some level of atrophy at some point in your life anyway. It just tends to be more severe for trans people on testosterone because our T levels are higher and our E levels are lower than the average post-menopausal woman.

Of course if you've had a vaginectomy as part of your bottom surgery, you obviously don't have vaginal atrophy issues anymore due to not having a vagina.

Followers, if you've used topical/localized estrogen for vaginal atrophy, feel free to weigh in about your experiences and what symptoms prompted you to try it!

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[Image description: A prescription from CVS. After insurance, the copay is $5 /end ID]

[Image description: A box that says “Yuvafem, estradiol vaginal inserts, 10 mcg, 2 blister packs each containing 4 vaginal inserts (with disposable applicators)” /End ID]

[Image description: The back of the same box, it says “Contents: 8 vaginal inserts with disposable applicators. Each insert contains: estradiol 10 mcg, corn starch, etc. Dosage: 1 Yuvafem insert inserted vaginally once per day for 2 weeks, then 1 inserted twice weekly. Dispenser: Each insert is contained in a disposable single-use applicator, please read the patient package insert for complete product information. Store at 69-77 degrees Fahrenheit. /End ID]

[Image description: There are multiple pink things, about the length and size of a pen. They’re in plastic packaging. /End ID]

[Image description: My hand is holding one of the pink things, which is partially out of the plastic and foil. You can see a small pill/tablet-y thing at the tip. /End ID]

[Image description: The tablet and applicator are on my thigh and you can compare the size of them to a penny. The tablet is much smaller than the penny. The pink applicator has a little syringe-like push thing at the end, so when you push the end the tablet comes out of the top. /End ID]

[Image description: A diagram that shows how to use the product. You remove it from the packaging and then it seems like you choose if you want to stand and insert it into your vagina or if you want to lay on your back with your legs up. /End ID]

[Image description: Instructions that read “Using the other hand, guide the applicator gently and comfortably though the vaginal opening. If prior to insertion the inset falls out of the applicator, throw the insert and applicator away and use a new insert-filled applicator. The applicator should be inserted (without forcing) as far as comfortably possible, or until half of the applicator is inside your vagina, whichever is less. Once the insert-filled applicator has been inserted, gently press the plunger until the plunger is fully depressed. This will eject the insert into your vagina where it will dissolve slowly over several hours. Insertion can be done at any time of the day, and it should be done at the same time daily. /End ID]

[Image description: Text that says “If you are going to have surgery or will be on bed rest, you may need to stop using Yuvafem. /End ID]

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Got my new prescription from CVS. I went to pick it up two days ago, but it said the retail price is $426.99 and after insurance it would be $356.02 so I said hell naw and left it at the pharmacy then called Callen-Lorde to see if they could try doing a different generic to see if that would change the cost. And now the copay for this version is $5 which is more manageable. 

I don’t see a lot of discussion about vaginal atrophy on Tumblr, but it’s something that happens to a lot of people on testosterone.

I’m 2 years on T, and I don’t really *need* to take something for vaginal atrophy because I don’t have vaginal pain in my daily life- but I do have some bleeding and discomfort during sex. 

If I fingered during sex by my partner I usually end up bleeding a little, even if it’s only one finger and lots of lube. Sometimes you can tell right away because my partner takes out their fingers and sees a little blood, and sometimes I can’t tell until the next day. I had a hysterectomy (and not an oophorectomy) and not having a uterus + being on T has made me have very little discharge, but the day after I have penetrative sex I always have a little brown discharge that I think means there was some bleeding the night before.

That makes me worry that it’s going to hurt because sometimes it does, so I get tense and then it hurts and so on. And I think it makes my partner concerned about hurting me, so they’re less likely to want to do it. So over time, it’s become something that we do less frequently. 

But sex is supposed to be about pleasure so there’s no reason I should have to just tough it out and tolerate any discomfort when there’s a safe fix. I plan on keeping my vagina after phallo (which is being rescheduled to Spring 2021) and I want to be able to use it if I want to. I also think that maybe decreasing the atrophy will make the tissues there healthier and maybe promote quicker healing when I do get phallo. 

At my appointment, my doctor said that starting vaginal E might cause more discharge for a bit, but it shouldn’t negate or reverse any of the changes I’m getting from being on T.

Lee says:

I’m reblogging this post from my transition blog because I’m starting vaginal estrogen and I haven’t seen a lot of discussion about it- hopefully my pictures will help other folks too with what to expect. 

I think I’m going to apply it at night so I don’t have to worry about it falling out, and at a time when I don’t think I’ll be having sex for the same reason. We’ll see how it goes- I’ve never been able to put a tampon up there just because I get so freaked out by it. Y’all know too much about me already lol so we’re far past being TMI...

For folks with vaginas who are on testosterone: vaginal atrophy can make penetrative sex painful even if you’re properly aroused. Vaginal atrophy is symptomized as irritation, itchiness, bleeding when penetrated, and dryness. There’s more info on atrophy in @gendercube‘s atrophy tag and in @ftmsextalk‘s atrophy tag.

Some people on T don’t experience much atrophy, but if you do then you should should use a lot of lube if any penetration is involved. Not everyone likes being vaginally penetrated, but some folks do and that doesn’t invalidate their gender identity in any way.

If you’re still bleeding or experiencing pain despite using lube, you can ask your doctor or endocrinologist about getting a prescription for topical estrogen. Topical estrogen applied to the genital area doesn’t have enough E to counter the testosterone in your body so you won’t start to detransition from your T changes.

From the Mayo Clinic: Vaginal estrogen therapy comes in several forms. Because they all seem to work equally well, you and your doctor can decide which one is best for you.

  • Vaginal estrogen cream. You insert this cream directly into your vagina with an applicator, usually at bedtime. Your doctor will let you know how much cream to use and how often to insert it. Typically people use it daily for one to three weeks and then one to three times a week thereafter. Although creams may offer faster relief than do other forms of vaginal estrogen, they can be messier.
  • Vaginal estrogen ring. You or your doctor inserts a soft, flexible ring into the upper part of the vagina. The ring releases a consistent dose of estrogen while in place and needs to be replaced about every three months.
  • Vaginal estrogen tablet. You use a disposable applicator to place a vaginal estrogen tablet in your vagina. Your doctor will let you know how often to insert the tablet. You might, for instance, use it daily for the first two weeks and then twice a week thereafter.

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Anonymous asked:

Hi, I couldnt find an answer for this anywhere. If you go on T temporarily and develop vaginal atrophy, would the atrophy go away once you went off T? Thanks!

Lee says:

Yes, it would- but you can also treat atrophy while you’re on T!

On mobile go to your web browser like Chrome and type transgenderteensurvivalguide.tumblr.com/faq and please read the FAQ before you send us an ask!

And wouldn’t ya know it, our Transmasculine resources, which is linked to in the faq, has a Testosterone FAQ page, which answers that question:

So if you can’t find an answer anywhere, start with the FAQ and you’ll find that we’ve already answered a ton of those commonly asked questions on one of the linked pages!

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Anonymous asked:

Cw vaginal ask: Does testosterone make the vagina more alkaline? I've noticed my smell has gone from more acidic to more alkaline. It isn't causing problems but I'm curious.

it sure can!  I can’t smell the difference between acidic and alkaline (anywhere) so I'm gonna give your nose some props for that.  there have been some limited studies in menopausal women with breast cancer that show that using topical testosterone to the vagina (instead of topical estrogen, because they can’t use that) helps reduce the pH again, (restore it to normal), so if you wind up with troubles, that might be an option instead of using the traditional topical estrogen-like they normally recommend- you might need a special compounded formulation. 

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Anonymous asked:

is it normal to start having discharge again only a day after your first dose of estrogen tablets (for vaginal atrophy) if you didnt have any discharge while on testosterone?

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Anonymous asked:

(genitals/sex mention) I cant seem to find the answer to how vaginal atrophy effects people that get excessively wet when aroused. Would you become completely dry? Or could you still get wet? I want to get on T but I don't want to have dry vaginal lining to the point where sex hurts, and I don't want to use estrogen creams or lube. I'm always ready to go immediately and I don't exactly have consistent income at the moment, so extra things are expensive.

Lee says:

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Anonymous asked:

does going on t stop your vaginal discharge or just your periods?

Lee says:

It stops your periods for sure, but the other changes with wetness and discharge are variable. 

Most people find they get less “wet” when aroused because of vaginal atrophy, which is the typical and expected response, but some people have reported the opposite

I can personally say that I’ve had less discharge in general, and many people on T do notice less vaginal discharge (the stuff that comes out that isn’t blood or from being aroused), but it isn’t guaranteed.

More info on T: Testosterone FAQ

Followers, what are your experiences with vaginal discharge on testosterone?

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Anonymous asked:

I know bottom growth is something one can’t opt out of if they take testosterone but I feel really uncomfortable with the thought of bottom growth. To the point where I don’t want to be on t because of it. However, I really want its other effects. It’s actually making my dysphoria worse because I feel like I’ll never be able to pass without it (im very small and feminine looking/sounding). Is there any way at all to potentially minimize bottom growth or even atrophy too?

Kii says:

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Anonymous asked:

any tips to help with vaginal atrophy? my vaginal walls are so thin to the point where masturbating causes bleeding, even with lube & cut nails. i tried looking up some stuff but it was all cisgendered language & not that helpful

Lee says:

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Anonymous asked:

I saw recently that T causes vaginal atrophy and I was just wondering if that is generally super painful or uncomfortable (in the experience of any mods or followers who have taken T that is)

Lee says:

It depends on how severe the atrophy is. In my experience, it’s been uncomfortable but not super painful. I don’t notice the atrophy outside of penetrative sex, so in my day to day life it has no affect on me.

I figure the longer you’re on T the worse it’ll be if you don’t treat it with topical estrogen, but not everyone experiences atrophy to the same extent. Post-menopausal women also can experience atrophy since their estrogen levels lower after starting menopause, although atrophy can be worse for people on T because we have lower estrogen levels than even they do.

This part of the answer is more specific about sex:

I’m almost 11 months on T and I have mild atrophy, and sometimes I bleed during sex and it hurts a bit when my partner puts their fingers in me, like not excruciating pain but defs an ouch-not-fun pain where the pain outweighs the pleasure making it not worth it. Sometimes it doesn’t bother me though so I still do have penetrative sex on occasion since if we use a lot of lube it’s okay and doesn’t hurt, but we didn’t used to need to do that when I was pre-T. My partner doesn’t have a biological penis, and they’ve only used a strap-on penetrating me once and it was only 3 inches long. So my experience has been with fingering, and people having penetrative sex with people with penises or strap-ons who have a similar level of atrophy as I do may need more than lube and have to get the prescription to treat the atrophy.

Followers, anyone want to add on?

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Anonymous asked:

Is vaginal atrophy only noticeable during penetration and stuff or can you like feel it/do you notice it all the time too?

Kii says:

Atrophy can be noticed outside of penetration. Here’s a post with more information about it.

Lee says:

It depends on the amount of atrophy. I’m about 11 months on T and I have some vaginal atrophy, so I sometimes bleed during penetration, but I never notice it outside of having sex.

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Anonymous asked:

Urgent!!! And tw Genitals. I'm 3-4 months on T and changes have been fortunately fast, unfortunately not with wetness and atrophy down there. I was in a convo with a nb person asking about vaginal structures and if what they had was normal, so i inserted a finger to feel around and everything hurt? Like it was bruised inside. And it's left me with this weird achey pain? Idk i guess I could ignore it, I haven't had anything in there since my last period 3 months ago.

Kai says:

I know that if you have dryness and atrophy down there, that might be a bad thing and you can get a topical estrogen cream to apply down there. It won’t add a lot of estrogen to your overall system, but is good for your down there regions. Definitely talk to your endocrinologist/doctor/reproductive health doctor if that’s accessible to you.

Lee says:

Like Kai said, there’s a topical estrogen cream, but there’s also an insertable tablet for the area. Vaginal atrophy is symptomized as irritation, itchiness, bleeding when penetrated, and dryness.

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Anonymous asked:

What do I do about vaginal atrophy? Do estrogen creams work? Is there a certain estrogen product I can use to solve the problem instead of treating the symptoms (using copious amounts of lube does! not! help!!! and i'm sick of that being the only solution people can offer me!)

Lee says:

Yes, the estrogen creams should work & there’s also a pill you can insert with an applicator.

“The treatment for vaginal atrophy is extremely simple and your insurance might cover it. You can see a doctor and ask for a prescription for an estrogen cream or estrogen tablets. They may have you do a quick exam so they can see how severe it is or they may not. The estrogen tablets/cream is then inserted a varying number of times per week for a varying number of weeks and it restores this tissue to a more healthy state. It won’t noticeably affect your hormone levels and the treatment is localized, so there’s no need to worry about that, and this is not a life-long treatment. The goal is for you to use it until your body has healed to a more healthy state and then stop, though you may have to do this more than once as it will begin to atrophy again over time. If you can, specifically request you get the tablets as the cream, I hear, can be pretty messy and makes you feel ‘wet’ for a little while. The tablets are smaller than an aspirin.” (Source)

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Anonymous asked:

vaginal atrophy? i'm on T and i've never heard of that! how common is it/what happens?

Lee says:We have more info on it in our Testosterone FAQ, but basically your vaginal walls get thinner and things down there get a bit drier, so it can hurt to have something inserted into that area when having sex. It happens to all people on T to an extent, but not everyone is affected to the level of bleeding during insertive (i made that word up) sex. It can be treated with topical estrogen cream you put down there or a estrogen pill like thing you insert there, and just using generous amounts of lube. It isn’t as scary as the name makes it sound!

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This is a compilation of frequently-asked questions with very brief answers, and links to more in-depth explanations from when they have been previously answered–please check here before to see if your question has been answered before sending it to us! This document will be updated with new questions and answers as frequently as possible.

I’m on testosterone. Can I still get pregnant? Yes. Testosterone is not a form of birth control, and surgical sterilization is the only absolutely sure means by which to avoid pregnancy. If you’re having sex that might result in pregnancy and want to avoid becoming pregnant, contraception is advised.

I am on/want to go on testosterone, but I want to carry a child/be a biological parent. What can you tell me about this? Pregnancy will cause feminization to your body. Remaining on testosterone while pregnant will adversely affect the fetus (causing birth defects and/or miscarriage). Other options including the harvesting/freezing of your eggs.

How do I deal with having a period? Are there ways to stop menstruating if I’m not on testosterone? Some forms of birth control can halt menstruation.

What types of birth control are available for me as a person taking testosterone? What about emergency birth control? IUDs, progestin-only pills, and condoms are all good options. IUDs, Plan B, and Ella are all forms of effective emergency contraception.

How do I (vacuum) pump? Does it work?

How big will my dick get/when does does growth end and begin? The average size is commonly reported as 1-1.5 inches, but these sizes are often self-reported and may be exaggerated. When growth begins is usually within the first few months to weeks on testosterone, but when growth begins and ends is variable from individual to individual.

What is DHT and how do I use it?

I recently started testosterone and my dick is uncomfortably sensitive–when will this end? How do I deal with it in the meantime? This is temporary! A change in underwear and using a suitable moisturizer can help.

I want to go on T but I don’t want bottom growth. What do I do? If you absolutely do not want bottom growth, you should not go on testosterone, as it is an unavoidable change.

How do I deal with dysphoria during sex/masturbation?

Why am I bleeding during/after penetration of my front hole? Atrophy is the most likely cause of this happening, but it could also be that you aren’t “warmed up”/aroused enough, or there’s insufficient lubrication.

What is vaginal atrophy?

I’m having awful cramping when I orgasm. What’s going on? You may be having uterine contractions–if they’re unbearable or if this continues to happen, you may want to see your doctor.

Is it normal for there to be changes on testosterone in how wet or not that I get when I’m aroused? Yep, totally! You may also not have any changes.

I can’t orgasm. Is something wrong with me?

What will happen to my sex drive/orgasms/how I have sex if I get a hysterectomy and/or oophorectomy?

Are orgasms possible after bottom surgery? Yes, absolutely. It is very, very rare nowadays with modern methods of bottom surgery to lose the ability to orgasm.

Is ejaculation possible after bottom surgery? Under certain conditions, yes.

Can I keep my front hole/forego a vaginectomy if I have metoidioplasty or phalloplasty? Yes, some surgeons will do this. Crane and Chen can also perform urethral lengthening and allow you to forego a vaginectomy, though this can come with an increased risk of complications.

What can you tell me about new developments in healthcare that might be used in bottom surgery?

How does scrotoplasty work? What are my options?

Where can I find photos of [pumping results/bottom surgery results/growth from testosterone]/experiences of people who’ve had bottom surgery?

How can I have penetrative sex post-phalloplasty/what kind of erectile devices are available? Hydraulic pumps, the semi-rigid rod, and external sleeves are the currently-available options.

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