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The sequel will focus on superman, as will the story. In case you’re too stupid to know but the relationship between batman and superman is a big part of both of the characters and having that put on the big screen for the first time is pretty amazing. So stop with your pathetic bitching because it’s ridiculous.

What’s ridiculous is the drivel that just came across a really anal spiel you just wrote. You may call my warranted criticisms “pathetic bitching,” but that’s your opinion.

As someone well versed with the history of the franchise, I am quite aware of the history between Batman and Superman. I knew in time their paths were going to cross in a live-action direction. But it should have been a natural progression and not a forced one as is in this case. Just a few years removed from The Dark Knight Trilogy, Warner Bros is rebooting the Batman franchise not with a stand-alone film, but in a sequel to a Superman movie.

On the surface, this may seem like the DC Comics equivalent of Iron Man in a Captain America sequel, this is more like a brand new version of Iron Man, who is more established and not played by Robert Downey, Jr., in the sequel to the Amazing Spider-Man.  

Warner Bros. hasn’t really been forthcoming with anything in regards to Clark/Kal-El’s new found role as a hero. Build up THAT side of the story instead of forcing Batman and any other DC hero they could fit in it for no real reason other than build up some DC Film Universe. Honestly, they literally asked what the next Man of Steel movie should be and literally answered a Batman film.

Just don’t call it a real sequel to Man of Steel, because it’s not. It’s a Batman/Superman crossover film. Nothing wrong with that, just don’t pretend it’s something it’s not. 

It is the man of steel sequel, just because it has batman in it does not mean it’s not about him. You haven’t seen the movie or even a trailer yet so with your pathetic bitching.

That's the second time you've referred to my legitimate concerns as "pathetic bitching" while you haven't really offered anything of substance aside from constant name calling and lack of capitalization. You could easily ignore me, but you've looking for some 15 minutes. I'll humor you. The fact I struck a nerve means somewhere inside, you share a few of my concerns but don't want to admit it to yourself. 

I'm just curious and a wee bit concerned that all the press and media attention has fallen on Batman, the various DC characters they're cramming in the film, and a little on Lex Luthor, but Superman is all but an afterthought in his own sequel AT THIS POINT. Even the media are putting Superman second in the title unofficially dubbing the film Batman vs. Superman

That's just me, I guess. I'm hoping that there's a good story in this production that seems to be setting up something bigger than it is. and looking beyond fanboy goggles. Man of Steel had a hell of a lot of flaws, and this is coming from a long time Superman fan, and it seems like they're doing everything but addressing those flaws SO FAR.  

But hey, Batman!

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First look at Ben Affleck in the upcoming Batman vs. Supermanuntitled Man of Steel sequel

This just in. Guy from Boston in Batman costume looks at floor. More news to come. 

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thoughtnami

Okay, it's a decent, different, Jim Lee-esque costume. Excellent, excellent.

Now, show it in color. 

Also, a Superman photo too. 

Because . . . you know, it's a sequel or something. 

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thoughtnami

The sequel will focus on superman, as will the story. In case you’re too stupid to know but the relationship between batman and superman is a big part of both of the characters and having that put on the big screen for the first time is pretty amazing. So stop with your pathetic bitching because it’s ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is the drivel that just came across a really anal spiel you just wrote. You may call my warranted criticisms "pathetic bitching," but that's your opinion.

As someone well versed with the history of the franchise, I am quite aware of the history between Batman and Superman. I knew in time their paths were going to cross in a live-action direction. But it should have been a natural progression and not a forced one as is in this case. Just a few years removed from The Dark Knight Trilogy, Warner Bros is rebooting the Batman franchise not with a stand-alone film, but in a sequel to a Superman movie.

On the surface, this may seem like the DC Comics equivalent of Iron Man in a Captain America sequel, this is more like a brand new version of Iron Man, who is more established and not played by Robert Downey, Jr., in the sequel to the Amazing Spider-Man.  

Warner Bros. hasn't really been forthcoming with anything in regards to Clark/Kal-El's new found role as a hero. Build up THAT side of the story instead of forcing Batman and any other DC hero they could fit in it for no real reason other than build up some DC Film Universe. Honestly, they literally asked what the next Man of Steel movie should be and literally answered a Batman film.

Just don't call it a real sequel to Man of Steel, because it's not. It's a Batman/Superman crossover film. Nothing wrong with that, just don't pretend it's something it's not. 

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Hey, remember when a sequel to a movie actually focused on the character who was supposed to be the main character? And remember when most of the stories centered on the lead character of the subject of the original movie as well as its sequel? Remember when studios didn't have to shoehorn in other high profile characters in a sequel to another character's film beyond a cameo?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Henry Cavill & Antje Traue training for Man of Steel (x)

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Imagine that . . .  deep, physical training for rigorous roles.

Also . . . did you know Gal Gadot, the woman who's about to play Wonder Woman in the "sequel," was a physical trainer while she was in the IDF?  

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You will not win. For every human you save, we will kill a million more.

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I know a lot of people give Zack Snyder crap and fear what "he's going to do to Wonder Woman," but exhale and think for a moment. Out of all the flaws in Man of Steel, which character stood out and became a fan favorite?

Faora-Ul, played excellently by Antje Traue. She kicked butt, took command, held her own against her opponents and, unlike Zod, is still alive. 

But I guess the memory of Sucker Punch is still fresh than a movie that actually came out this year. Understandable, but still, I'm cautiously optimistic, especially seeing how Faora was handled in Man of Steel.

Go figure. 

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While I'm Happy I'll See Wonder Woman in a Major Motion Picture In My Lifetime...

. . . I wonder if Warner Bros. will actually make a real sequel to Man of Steel one day.

Because the moment the film was initially announced, it was pretty much called Batman vs. Superman by nearly every media outlet. Already in a secondary place in his own sequel. 

Then the rumors of Nightwing being in the film began. Then the rumors of the Arrow stars appearing in it tying that series to this new DC Movie Universe. Now, Wonder Woman's going to be in it too. 

It just seems that Superman is becoming a tertiary thought in his own sequel. And that just seems . . . off. 

I don't really get it . . . no, wait, I do. 

Warner Bros. wants to create a DC equivalent to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and that's fine and dandy. It's something that was carefully planned, I think, because Marvel wanted to keep the properties they still had rights to (mostly the B and C-level characters outside of the Spider-Man, X-Men, and Fantastic Four mythos) and transformed them into top-shelf properties.

Warner Bros. has all rights to all the DC Comics-owned properties. And that's everybody in a DC Comics book, except for the Milestone characters and those books owned by creators (Preacher's an owner-created series but Constantine, Sandman, and Starman are owned outright by DC Comics). And since they're in a position where they could make a DC Movie Universe, they could have easily done that a long time ago. 

Cramming everything in what was supposed to be a sequel to last summer's big film, Man of Steel, isn't how you do that. 

Think of it way using Marvel characters instead of DC characters:

The sequel of Iron Man will have Wolverine and Spider-Man, and they just announced The Hulk's going to be in it.  

That's what Man of Steel 2 is looking like, and that's unfortunate. I'd love to see them actually make a Man of Steel 2 one day, but this upcoming film isn't it.

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Man of Steel #1-6 covers by John Byrne, Dick Giordano & Tom Ziuko. 1986.

John had this to say about Man of Steel at his forum 10/29/2013.

One of the worst thing to happen in comics in the last thirty years or so was MAN OF STEEL. Not because there was necessarily anything inferior about the product per se, but because, pretty much all by itself, it created a MINDSET. Before MoS, writers, artists and editors picked up a new assignment and understood that their job was to continue from the point at which they arrived. After MoS, it became all about “reboots”.

At the time I accepted the Superman assignment, many DC staffers had only recently become enamored with desktop computers, and computer terms were flying around the Office. “Reboot” was one. I have wondered many a time since, if I had come to Superman as little as a year earlier, before everyone was in love with computers, would I have been allowed to do the “fix” as I wished — as a multi-issue in-continuity story that took Superman from where he was to where I thought he should be — instead of as a “reboot”.

If I had, perhaps comics would not be in quite the same mess they are today. (Tho, truth to tell, the poison was already seeping into DC veins, and from there into the rest of the industry. The poison was called CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS.)

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Wow. Real talk from the guy who, more or less, created the reboot craze in comics, especially at DC Comics. 

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After Affleck: Casting The Justice League

There was such a brouhaha after Warner Bros announced that actor/writer/director/producer Ben Affleck has been cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman in the upcoming sequel to Man of Steel, coming out in July 2015. Most of the "fanic" comes from the earliest superheroic role Mr. Affleck headlined, Daredevil. He wasn't completely bad in the film. The script, written and directed by the guy who created Grumpy Old Men and Big Bully, wasn't the best by any stretch, and it was filled with corny, cartoonish performances and scenes. I still shudder at that fight between Elektra and Matt in the play park. That said, Daredevil wasn't the best superhero film ever made, and it's far from being the worse.

Right now, they're franchise building at Warner Bros., building a cinematic universe but one piece at a time. In time, they'll eventually get to a Justice League film. Could there be stand-alone films featuring the heroes? Maybe. But in the meantime, here's who I'd think would be an ideal Justice League roster:

  • Superman
  • Batman
  • Wonder Woman
  • Green Lantern (John Stewart)
  • The Flash (Barry Allen)
  • Vixen
  • Aquaman 

Now, you may be wondering why my list looks like this. I'll explain. I think the lineup should include the heavy hitters and something familiar to the audiences as well as the comic readers. I also feel that the lineup should be racially diverse as well, thus the John Stewart version of Green Lantern and Vixen.

Considering Arrow is building itself into something stronger than Smallville, perhaps using League standouts like Green Arrow and Black Canary might be problematic considering TV audiences would be expecting them in the movie. Heck, there are still people who felt Tom Welling should have played Superman in Superman Returns over Brandon Routh, but I digress.

I also wanted characters that bring something new and unique to the lineup. Martian Manhunter is pretty much a shape-shifting Superman who's afraid of fire and loves Oreos. Captain Marvel, er, um, Shazam is a kid with Superman's power set and without his weaknesses. Green Arrow is a more liberal Batman with a Robin Hood fetish. I don't want other aliens on the roster because, for now, one alien (Superman) is enough, so no Thangarians like the Hawks. 

I also wanted the roster to be relatively youthful. With the exception of the 41-year old Ben Affleck, most of the cast are between their late 20s and early 30s. They're pretty much all knee-deep in the 18-49 demographic of the film. 

I'll stop procrastinating and put the names of folks I'd cast as the Justice League:

Gemma Arterton as Diana Prince/Wonder Woman

Ms Arterton is a classically-trained English actress who is earning her action chops in recent roles. Even though she was initially being considered as Black Widow in Iron Man 2 and Selina Kyle in The Dark Knight Rises,  Gemma has been a Bond girl (Strawberry Fields in Quantum of Solace), a priestess of Hera (Io in Clash of the Titans), a bounty hunter in search of witches and demons (Gretel in Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters), and a Disney princess, well, a warrior princess in a Disney movie (Tamina in Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time). Ms. Arterton's about to breakout in another role this fall in Runner Runner co-starring Justin Timberlake and some guy name Ben Affleck. She's tough, physically built, quite feminine, a talented actress, and could play the role of Wonder Woman with ease.

Chadwick Boseman as John Stewart/Green Lantern

Mr. Boseman's not quite a household name just yet, but given his star-making role in the critically-acclaimed Jackie Robinson biopic 42, he's definitely getting there. Mostly seen in smaller TV roles, this rising star fits both the build and the presence of the former Marine turned architect turned Green Lantern who is without fear and willing to shine a light on Batman's BS.

Robert Sheehan as Barry Allen/The Flash

Most of you know this Irish actor from his role of the pick-and-mix-stealing, slightly perverted, obnoxious jerk Nathan from Misfits while some of you may know him as Darren Trecy from Love/Hate. Some folks are being introduced to him this weekend in the first Mortal Instruments film, City of Bones.  Mr. Sheehan is a versatile, talented actor who could pull off any role, whether it's a timid booknerd, a troublemaking thug, a homeless prostitute, or a smart-aleck immortal jerkass. I don't think the Flash's impending live-action spinoff would be conflicting with a role in the Justice League movie. Heck, it could only help expand his visibility.

Gugu Mbatha-Raw as Mari Jiwe-McCabe/Vixen

An English Shakespearean actress who has worked under the direction of Tom Hanks, J.J. Abrams, and Tim Kring, Ms. Mbatha-Raw has been gaining the respect of her peers and the attention of the entertainment world.  She starred in the action spy series Undercovers and the thriller Touch and working on a historical drama called Belle where she's playing the lead character, Dido Elizabeth Belle. Ms. Mbatha-Raw has a diverse range of dialects and would be perfect in the role of the animal-powered heroine. 

Taylor Kitsch as Arthur Curry/Aquaman

Talented Canadian actor known by a lot of TV watchers as Tim Riggins on Friday Night Lights and moviegoers as Gambit in X-Men Origins: Wolverine and the title character in John Carter.  Hollywood wants him to be a star, and he's definitely poised for great things. Taking on the role of the king of Atlantis would definitely boost his star-power. 

Picking a cast of actors because of their talents and their adaptability for the role, not just because they're "an A-lister" or "pretty."  What a concept. 

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Back when I was a kid, I've read stories about how Walt Disney was a master storyteller who often pitched a story to his talented crew of animators and artists. He went into much detail about how he saw the world, the heroes, the villains, the settings, the beginning, the middle, and the end. 

The first time he did this, it was a simple tale about a girl who was scorned by her stepmother and banished into the forest, how she found a house she thought was abandoned, the little people who saved her, how the stepmother transformed into a crone who poisoned her rival, and how the kiss of her true love would break the deadly curse. He told the animators who were enthralled with that story this will be our first film. 

I know I've given Max Landis a lot of crap lately, but I'm slowly starting to get that Walt Disney vibe from from him. He can tell a story. He is well-versed in Superman mythos. He is a fan, and it shows in this video pitch he made about how he'd do the Death and Return of Superman. He doesn't really say it's a comic or a film, but if Max had his way, this is the definitive Superman story he would tell. 

If only we could ignore Man of Steel and get this guy to helm a Superman movie or three.  I'd rather Zack Snyder talk to Max Landis instead of Frank Miller because after seeing this, I believe Max could save the Superman franchise. 

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New ‘Man of Steel’ Trailer Brings Super Back

You aren’t even reading this are you I could just say literally anything and nobody would notice because all you expect to see here is just some boilerplate introductory text about how this is the new theatrical trailer for Man of Steel the new Zack Snyder film based on Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster’s classic comic book hero Superman and that it’s actually pretty great and all that and you would be mostly right but you wouldn’t even know that you were right or if I was talking mad smack about your mother like the worst possible thing anybody could say about your mother because you’re not even reading this right now because hey it’s Superman which I totally get it’s chill bro.

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thoughtnami

Oh, sorry Andy, but you got me. I was just . . . watching . . . Man of Steel . . . Superman . . . kwyjibo . . . wow. 

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