Okay, on 320, based on spoilers, it's looking bad, and I hope that Tabs doesn't take the easy way out and just have Yuno save the day, because... where is the character development? I'm not the most passionate spokesperson for this, but I think it'd only be fair for Yuno to have to go through something. As in, he is royalty yes, but so are a lot of the other characters, who have trained for years to be where they are. And Yuno just picks up his grimoire and maybe defeats the Demon King who's serving Captain roast? Tabs... why do you hate Yuno and don't want to give him character development? Of course this is just my opinion, but I think there should be something more especially if Yuno was supposed to die early on, then there should be a need to give him purpose.

But there is something in the spoilers that makes me happy credits to spoiler image goes to @/silvyavan

Bestieeeww BESTIEEEE THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, OMG IF THIS IS TRUE THEN I AM HAPPY... And I agree with the Yuno thing... I love him (he is my beautiful boy) but I want him to develop more, and face challenges that will help him grow

Indeed it is 😎 and yesss great minds think alike 😉

HOLD ON A FREAKING MINUTE EVERYONE IN THE BLACK CLOVER FANDOM!

Why are the captains even fighting Lucifero the way they are now?

Why are they trying to attack him one-on-one? Two-on-one at best?

Are they even aware that their attacks are largely ineffective against a devil?

Why am I even asking these questions right now?

I know the solution to the problem at the moment!

ASTA, USE THE DEMON-DWELLER SWORD!

Does Asta just not remember what Licht did with Demon-Dweller back in the Shadow Palace?

You know, the-

THAT!

And that was only with the strength of eight people (albeit elves and several of the strongest elves but my point still stands)!

Just do that! You literally have all the Black Bulls, seven Magic Knight Captains, Mr. Yuno Perfecto, and several other allies to you from which to channel magic from!

And then throw in some anti-magic slashes too for good measure.

It's not like Asta hasn't done the whole "channeling an ally's magic through the sword" thing before!

Yeah it's been a while but he's done it!

Once again, I say:

USE DEMON-DWELLER TO CHANNEL THE MAGIC OF LITERALLY EVERYONE AROUND YOU THEN SLASH LUCIFERO WITH THE EQUIVALENT OF A MAGICAL NUKE!

My dear, 

Asta is a very simple boy (affectionate) in a very complicated world

The Last Supper

@thoughtfullyrainynightmare @cryptid-black-bulls @loosesodamarble @simpingforthisonedeer @toomanythought

How did Nozel NOT die like 💀💀 I don’t want Nozel to die but cmon what kinda shounen plot armor BS is that😭😭😭 up the stakes of the arc Tabata I wanna see some angst😫 let your berserk inspo take over and just obliterate a captain or two I wanna see some tears😫

My dear flaming chicken it’s so happy to see you again🥺💕 and yeah :// at this point I’m just waiting for this arc to be over and to go back clover to see what they’re going to do abt the wizard king situation

Like are they gonna keep Julius bc he’s been doing an okay job so far or is it going to be one of the captains? If so, my vote is for Fuego❤️‍🔥

Wait, characters are supposed to die in big climactic arcs?

looks back at Fairy Tail where - during the final arc of the series - a group of characters were carried on crosses as if dead but turned out to be alive; where someone was being turned into particles and dying but lived because the continent was reshaped just in time; where two characters disappear into a time-space rift and are presumed lost only to return later; where the old man heading the found family of the series uses his life force to decimate an opposing army, dies, and is revived in the end

Yeah. I think I'll continue to take my fiction with a heaping dose of optimism and happy endings.

Consequences doesn’t have to mean death. I’d accept loss of limb(s) or magic quite happily- I just want something to show that this actually happened and wasn’t just some sort of fever dream.

*looks at the round table where this discussion is held, takes a sip of tea and sighs*

I think there will be something the characters will have to show for from this arc, and it’s not just the DT and DDs (most likely) winding up dead (because it would very much make sense for them to be/stay dead). Most obvious examples atm would seem to be Yuno’s 2nd grimoire, and potentially staying in Spade, because they need a leader. And having a member of the original royal family would fit nicely. No, I will not address the fact that he’s 17, and would become a king, because pharaos could be far younger than that, and this is fiction. (Bet he could still do a better job than Auggie.) 

And though I have an issue with Tabs’ potential Vermillion dismembering fixation, I agree that something should happen. May I suggest for example Yami and William being unable to use their magic (maybe permanently) as a result of the ritual? This would give a reason for some power exchange in the squads. And I am also very much rooting for Fue to be the next WK. 

No, I will not talk about the one message on wall-of-shame stating that I have Tabs’ balls, implying that thus he can’t kill of the Lion siblings. 

I’m trying to think what could they have been building up until now though. A death? Another consequence? I’m still waiting to see baby Leo, and you-know-who-you-are no I will not be interested in Lu-lu working his way through the Vermillion household to kill of the youngest of them. 

Okay but the thing is, even if there is consequences such as magic loss it's not gonna be satisfying. This entire arc is plagued by bad writing and even worse plot armour, it makes me wonder what happened. There was no buildup and as it seems there's gonna be hardly any aftermath. The thing is, Tabata makes it seem like there's nothing at stake. We don't know the state of the evacuation or Clover Kingdom, but it's written in a way where it's just another "yeah they'll be fine". Asta is in his union form again so all I'm thinking is "he'll beat the baddies anyways. Nothing's gained, nothing's lost." This entire arc just feels incredibly pointless and boring. Bleach had filler arcs better than that. There is no emotional pressure, as any character could potentially die or become crippled and it wouldn't affect the story in any way because most of them are unfortunately pointless. There is no power curve in the characters, there is no interesting new moves, there is no personal development. All there is is Mereo angy, Captains are losing again and need to be saved by the MC. For the love of God Tabata, give the other characters a reason to exist in the story. Not just Asta and Yuno. I beg of you.

@thoughtfullyrainynightmare that would be cool tho... Like maybe Yami becoming very weak and unable to recover??? The angst that would create and that would actually lead the manga into a good direction, possibly like the characters (mostly Asta) will most probably mature and become less childish s d realize that it is the real world and anything can happen?? And I am also looking forward to Yuno's development, how he would react to the whole revelation. Also, I think at least one person has to lose something important to make the whole thing really... Like maybe all of them together losing to Lucifer, that would be a great thing or maybe something like Fuego when he lost his hand, (i srsly though he died)

You get it! There would be angst potential, even for the whole BB squad, because Vanessa stated that there would be no squad without Yami. So, if Yami lost his powers, they’d need to watch Yami become a shell of the man he is. And that could eg bridge a way for them to go on a search for Yami’s homeland, because... let’s say he knows about a practice there that might help. One doesn’t need to look for a reason that hard; and there would be a reason to have the overseas arc. 

Plus, as you mentioned, it would guide Asta to a more responsible direction and there’d be a lot of potential for great character growth. Especially now that all of the BBs are uncovering their potential. 

Yuno too needs some development, because there should be something. He’s uncovering, and receiving, a lot of things. Like... having 2 grimoires. Is there anyone else like that out there??? It should be a big thing for him emotionally. Or maybe there should be an arc where he struggles to use his own magic, because he has been using the elf’s magic for his entire life. He hasn’t touched his own magic. As far as I’m concerned, he has just been channeling the power of someone else, and there should be character development because of it. 

And speaking of the elves, they’re there, and potentially coming to the rescue, which might give them the upper hand. But who knows at this point. 

Also, I agree, there should be a loss. Of something. Gadja will die, most likely because he... only got to live because of Rill’s spell. But Clover. What will Clover loose? For personal reasons I don’t want Mereo or Fue have to be the ones to pay the most, because I love them, but... Mereo is pretty op.... 

Yes, me too 😭 But he’s a tough cookie, and he better not die or else I need to have a chat with Tabs

BC fandom board meeting:

Honestly this is the most drama I've seen in this fandom since I first joined and it's hilarious.

LMAOOOO lemme @ all of them💀💀💀

@thoughtfullyrainynightmare @cryptid-black-bulls @loosesodamarble @the-black-bulls @bakugossanity @valtoswife

This counts as drama now? Then I say let there be drama! 

You and I both know very well that this is NOT the most drama since William/Mimosa💀💀💀 so hush dear🤫💀

I know, I just love it when this discussion and exchange of ideas is happening, much like at a round table. We all have our own ideas and we’re having an amusing, wonderful discussion about it all. Even if it entails a lil bit of angst

BC fandom board meeting:

Honestly this is the most drama I've seen in this fandom since I first joined and it's hilarious.

LMAOOOO lemme @ all of them💀💀💀

@thoughtfullyrainynightmare @cryptid-black-bulls @loosesodamarble @the-black-bulls @bakugossanity @valtoswife

This counts as drama now? Then I say let there be drama! 

Going through the notes on that character death post @/simpingforthisonedeer made and every member of the Tumblr BC fandom really is showing up to throw in their two cents about this aren't they?

NO BECAUSE ACTUALLY

I JUST SAY SHIT AND MY FRIENDS GET ON AND START WILDING ON MY POSTS LMAOOOO💀💀

We also know that hiding our thoughts in the tags is pointless

How did Nozel NOT die like 💀💀 I don’t want Nozel to die but cmon what kinda shounen plot armor BS is that😭😭😭 up the stakes of the arc Tabata I wanna see some angst😫 let your berserk inspo take over and just obliterate a captain or two I wanna see some tears😫

My dear flaming chicken it’s so happy to see you again🥺💕 and yeah :// at this point I’m just waiting for this arc to be over and to go back clover to see what they’re going to do abt the wizard king situation

Like are they gonna keep Julius bc he’s been doing an okay job so far or is it going to be one of the captains? If so, my vote is for Fuego❤️‍🔥

Wait, characters are supposed to die in big climactic arcs?

looks back at Fairy Tail where - during the final arc of the series - a group of characters were carried on crosses as if dead but turned out to be alive; where someone was being turned into particles and dying but lived because the continent was reshaped just in time; where two characters disappear into a time-space rift and are presumed lost only to return later; where the old man heading the found family of the series uses his life force to decimate an opposing army, dies, and is revived in the end

Yeah. I think I'll continue to take my fiction with a heaping dose of optimism and happy endings.

Consequences doesn’t have to mean death. I’d accept loss of limb(s) or magic quite happily- I just want something to show that this actually happened and wasn’t just some sort of fever dream.

*looks at the round table where this discussion is held, takes a sip of tea and sighs*

I think there will be something the characters will have to show for from this arc, and it’s not just the DT and DDs (most likely) winding up dead (because it would very much make sense for them to be/stay dead). Most obvious examples atm would seem to be Yuno’s 2nd grimoire, and potentially staying in Spade, because they need a leader. And having a member of the original royal family would fit nicely. No, I will not address the fact that he’s 17, and would become a king, because pharaos could be far younger than that, and this is fiction. (Bet he could still do a better job than Auggie.) 

And though I have an issue with Tabs’ potential Vermillion dismembering fixation, I agree that something should happen. May I suggest for example Yami and William being unable to use their magic (maybe permanently) as a result of the ritual? This would give a reason for some power exchange in the squads. And I am also very much rooting for Fue to be the next WK. 

No, I will not talk about the one message on wall-of-shame stating that I have Tabs’ balls, implying that thus he can’t kill of the Lion siblings. 

I’m trying to think what could they have been building up until now though. A death? Another consequence? I’m still waiting to see baby Leo, and you-know-who-you-are no I will not be interested in Lu-lu working his way through the Vermillion household to kill of the youngest of them.