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@theserpentsnight

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beetelbabes

Seeing the posts about Clannibal and Beetlebabes has made me reflect on why the Adam and Beej ship rubs me the wrong way and it's entirely because by trying to make this character gay you're attempting to remove the main female character just for your ship???

it's more prominent with Hannibal where Clarice is just. forgotten. or made out to be this villain for her romance with Hannibal just for the sake of a gay relationship and it rubs me the wrong way

but also not only that it feels weirdly misogynistic? like you're not only dumbing down a character like Lydia or Clarice to just "love interest" but also. ignoring the fact that they aren't the love interests, they're the MAIN CHARACTERS. the males are the "love interests" and you're erasing their entire stories. You're erasing the fact that these relationships make them stronger and more confident but that they're also badass independent women who are INTERSTING characters.

it just feels like purposely harming a character for the sake of a forced relationship just to tick that box of gay relationship when it could be so much better?

not to mention the fact that usually these "spin offs" are done without the original creators input :v

Clarice got absolutely shafted in the TV show yeah, its kind of amazing how dirty they did her. They also somehow made her more ableist than she was in the adaptation from the early 90s?? The way she talked to Will with that cloying edge while trying to "Help" him because clearly he needs someone to volunteer- idk its been awhile since i watched

The Beetlejuice musical i feel actually did Lydia more justice than the OG film?? I was around 11 when i saw the film, and when I watched the musical as an adult I honestly, no joke, thought that Lydia was a musical original because she was completely forgettable to me in the movie 💀

When I rewatched the movie her character didn't feel very authentic to me. She felt like she was written by someone who went "oh, goths are weird and suicidal or whatever, right? Okay so she says shes weird/likes scary stuff and wants to die." then when she sees the Maitlands in monster form she gets freaked out. And Barbaras way of Consoling a suicidal teen is to tell her death doesn't make things easier, as if the reason Lydia doesnt want to live is cuz its too much of a chore or wants an "easy way out". I know there's more to read between the lines but overall her character didnt leave an impression on me and I dont think I would consider her a main character?

All that said, Betel and Adam is one of the lamest pairings. They rlly took the type of crackship that has 1 fanfic on ao3 and then wrote it into the story huh 😒 Even after they wrote an entire song about how they Definitely Don't Diddle Kids, Betelgeuse's relationship with Lydia is still the most compelling and romantic lmao

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Hello ! I am a Beetlejuice The Musical fan for not a really long time, and I wanted to ask to the Beetlebabes' fan their honest and constructive explanation about why they like the ship !

I noticed when I entered the fandom that there were kinda "two sides".

Those who hates the ship, and those who likes it.

I'm not gonna lie, I just find the ship uncomfortable, so I do not "like it" because well, she is 15. And he is a very. Old. Demon. And he is kinda creepy...

BUT !

I would really like to discuss with some of those shippers, why do you ship them? What is your point of view? And why do you think their relation couldn't be platonic? (I personally really like their friendship in the cartoon and in the musical.)

Please tell me your thoughts ! (And please be respectful!)

I like the idea of a terrifying, immortal, monstrous man who could kill with a snap of his fingers meeting a totally normal Goth Girl who gives him one bored look and says "Heel," and he goes "Okay" and is scared of her, lmao.

Also the fact that she's been trying to process death but people wont give her the space to grieve, so a Dead Man is her perfect companion to embrace her morbid side while UPLIFTING her and making her LAUGH and feel SAFE even tho he's the last person on earth you'd think would be "safe" for a 16 yr old girl to be around

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I love that everyone is looking at the objective, scientific evidence that celestial bodies move over time and that therefore their position in space is no longer the same as it was thousands of years ago, meaning you were most likely not born under the same sign you thought you were, and going. Nah I dislike that I am NOT an Aeries. Fuck that noise.

/affectionate

insufferable article, here's the point:

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autumngracy

This happened 8 years ago, but I don't think culturally we will ever move on. At least not for a generation or so.

Case in point: Wikipedia still lists the astrological signs by their "original" dates.

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sea-beam

an impossible find✨

In Pokemon Black I have a regular victini and a shiny one; they are the reason I only played that game once 😅 I couldn't bear to reset it and lose them. Also the shiny one was traded to me by a friend who passed away, so Im definitely never getting rid of it

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axmxz

“I think it looks fine, yeah”

“When’s dinner”

“i made cake pops lol”

“that sucks :(”

“no sorry i have to clean my room”

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gay-otlc

“sorry lol my phone died”

"Yay!"

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saipng

okay so this is not an ‘official’ metric by any scale but i am curious so i just bullshitted my own (explanation on levels under the poll)

level 1 - can’t tolerate horror at all, actively avoids it at all costs

level 2 - will watch a horror movie with friends/family if convinced but will definitely not enjoy it. screams at jumpscares and covers eyes at tense moments

level 3 - can occasionally consume horror media. very easily startles at jumpscares. usually feels anxious/paranoid afterward

level 4 - startles at jumpscares and generally feels uneasy after consuming horror media. avoids anything horror-related at night time

level 5 - jumpscares are less effective, but can still startle. feels anxious during tense moments. horror mostly causes unease only at night time

level 6 - has no problem consuming any kind of horror media alone at night. is largely unaffected by jumpscares. horror causes no feeling of fear or anxiety

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