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Sideblog for ML Salt mostly (and maybe some other fandoms). Lukanette is my bias. Canon is now my rival. Current Project: “The Blue Skies and Your Eyes” (Epilogue for “The One to Make It Stay”) Ao3 is xxoceanswavesxx
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Anonymous asked:

I've been reading your list of things you would change if you could restart TOTMIS, and honestly it makes me realize that spite is not always a good motivator when it comes to fix-it fics. Sure it may lead you to fix the mistakes of canon like it's supposed to, but it may also cause you to make new mistakes as well.

I have a bit of a mixed take on that.

Don’t get me wrong, I 100% agree that you need more than spite when writing a long, on-going story. If that is your only motivator as a writer, you’re going to burn out pretty quickly. For most of TOtMiS, the chapters mostly focused on being an AU version of season 3 episodes to accommodate for the ship and story beats that were present due to the changes. That made outlining for those parts of the story much easier.

But later parts, like “Horror Head” were much more difficult. And that’s because at that point, I couldn’t just pick a season 3 episode to draw from and write in response to it. I had to write in response to what I set up, which ended up being a lot more than I realized. (Note: yes, you should be writing in response to what you set up in general, but that’s beside the point).

It also didn’t help that I hadn’t planned on writing a long series - “Silence Can Be Beautiful” was originally a one shot written because I loved “Silencer” so much and just wanted more of it. And then the rest of season 3 started to happen, and the rest is history.

That being said, I don’t want to discount the value of venting frustrations via fanfic (to an extent). Certainly, I’d rather people vent their frustrations that way over more toxic means, like harassing people for not agreeing with their opinions. And if someone stumbled upon their fic, doesn’t like or agree with it? They can just block or drop it and move on.

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Anonymous asked:

The tags on that post about the Adrien Remix of TOTMIS got me wondering, have you ever written a Love Square fic before? And would you be willing to do it again?

Way, way back in the day (think the hiatus between season 1 and 2), I wrote a oneshot where Marinette and Adrien revealed their identities to each other in the same vein as the Dic dub of Sailor Moon.

I wouldn't write a full-on fic for them, if that's what you're asking. Maybe oneshot rewrites, or just HCs with changes I'd propose to the dynamic, but nothing in the vein of TOtMiS or Psyche and Bewitched.

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Anonymous asked:

Ah yes, the dreaded sentikids storyline. Do you think it could have worked? Or do you think it should have been scrapped all together?

I would have scrapped it, shredded it, loaded it up into one of Mayor Borgueois’s garbage can rockets, and sent it straight into the sun.

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Anonymous asked:

How do you feel about Felix's character?

Assuming you're referring to canon? Well, keep in mind I haven't seriously watched the show since Season 3, so my opinion pretty much stems from his debut episode, and the few things I know after that.

CW: Discussions of sexual harassment/assault

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Anonymous asked:

You think you might end up doing a rewrite of TOtMiS in the future?

Uh, so here’s the thing.

On the one hand, I truthfully want to move on and do other things. Like MAYBE more Psyche and Bewitched? Or like… original projects that I haven’t touched in so long… Not to mention I haven’t really been watching Miraculous or been super active in the fandom for super long so…

On the OTHER hand… I would still like to make the series into one complete story, so it could be read in its intended order instead of needing to skip around. And if I end up doing that, I’m pretty certain I’d probably change a few things here and there so…

Don’t take this as a promise or anything, just a glance into my thought process.

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Anonymous asked:

Were you really that bitter on both Adrien and Alya back when you started the fic?

Oh, absolutely. Remember, this was during S3, where they really hammered down on making Marinette "learn a lesson" every episode, and pushing that Lila was a master manipulator in the absolute worst way possible. While Alya and Adrien's actions and behaviors were exaggerated in TOtMiS... they still had some basis in canon. Episodes like "Chameleon," and "Ladybug," are pretty obvious examples of this, but you also have stuff in "Gamer 2.0," "Reflekdoll," "Weredad," and of course, the infamous "Puppeteer 2". And I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting. But regardless, it was an infuriating time, to say the least.

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Anonymous asked:

Anything you would have changed about the fic if you could go back in time and restart it?

Ooh, there’s been a few things on my mind:

-I’d try to better balance Adrien and Alya’s arcs. It was harder at the beginning of the fic because I was so annoyed with how the show was handling them at the time, and wanted them to be held accountable for their actions. There are times where, in hindsight, I felt Adrien’s depiction went too far, and would have either dialed it back or balance him out a bit better. He would still need to face consequences (because he was too shielded from them at the time), but looking at spoilers going forward, I’d also try to give him moments of emotional agency. I do think there was one point where I was going to write him as he ended up in “Nice Guy Adrien the Musical” but I’m glad that I didn’t go that far. I think there was also a point that I considered having Marinette and Alya call off their friendship, but it’s been a while so I don’t remember.

-Intersplice the “Paper Sky” chapters into the story. I’m still considering uploading the story as one full thing so there’s no jumping between parts, and it flows better.

-Fleshed out Ivan, Juleka, and Rose more. I wanted to do more with them, but the story was taking me in other directions. I’m at least glad I got their POVs and the dream chapters.

-I wouldn’t have announced Marinette not forgiving Adrien by the end. Not because I think she’s obligated to or because he deserves it, but because I now feel compelled to write it that way rather than letting it happen organically. Truthfully, I’m undecided now if she will or won’t. She’s the last chapter of the epilogue so I have some time, but still.

Those are the ones that come to mind, but others might hit me later.

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Alright, 2 other major things that, in hindsight, I find not so great and would change. CW: Discussions of ableism and sexual harassment.

1. I would have changed the “Lila fakes a disability” part that led Marinette and co to want to transfer to Mendeleiev’s class for the next school year. As an autistic woman with ADHD, I found it frustrating that at no point in the show, none of the teachers asked Lila for proper documentation to give her accommodations. IRL, this is done so that our teachers can better work with us, and I wanted to share that experience in the story (this was also why I explicitly made Luka autistic, and if I were to rewrite or edit now, I’d establish it earlier).

In hindsight… I would instead opt to have Lila lie about her schedule as a reason for why she can’t do things, and try to get out of taking exams. I know *canonically* her faking having tinnitus is done to show that Lila is a liar and a bad person, but I think we can portray this aspect of her character without perpetuating ableist stereotypes. So I’d also rewrite Chameleon for this reason.

2. Looking back, I’d have Kagami better reflect on how Lila’s harassment might have impacted how Adrien reacted to things. Maybe not right away, like when she initially feels betrayed, but more so in the aftermath, when she’s had some time to reflect on things.

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Anonymous asked:

Aside from TOTMIS, is there any other fic you'd like to change it if you could go back in time and restart it?

I’ve gone back and forth on how I would write “Nice Guy Adrien: The Musical” if I were to do it now, like making Gabriel more influential on Adrien’s downfall (making it more clear that’s where he got his behavior from), whether or not to keep Felix, whether to keep Chloe’s redemption, etc. It’s definitely the pettiest take I’ve done on Adrien, and like I said, I don’t think I’d ever go that far again.

At the same time though, I don’t have regrets about it either. I enjoyed contributing my take to @lenoreofraven ‘s AU, building the playlist from what was suggested, and writing the scenes with those songs in mind. I have some theater background (not a lot, but even the little you get sticks with you), so it was fun trying something that let me play with that.

TL;DR: I don’t regret “Nice Guy Adrien” but I def have some ideas that would take it in a different direction, especially Adrien.

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Anonymous asked:

Anything you would have changed about the fic if you could go back in time and restart it?

Ooh, there’s been a few things on my mind:

-I’d try to better balance Adrien and Alya’s arcs. It was harder at the beginning of the fic because I was so annoyed with how the show was handling them at the time, and wanted them to be held accountable for their actions. There are times where, in hindsight, I felt Adrien’s depiction went too far, and would have either dialed it back or balance him out a bit better. He would still need to face consequences (because he was too shielded from them at the time), but looking at spoilers going forward, I’d also try to give him moments of emotional agency. I do think there was one point where I was going to write him as he ended up in “Nice Guy Adrien the Musical” but I’m glad that I didn’t go that far. I think there was also a point that I considered having Marinette and Alya call off their friendship, but it’s been a while so I don’t remember.

-Intersplice the “Paper Sky” chapters into the story. I’m still considering uploading the story as one full thing so there’s no jumping between parts, and it flows better.

-Fleshed out Ivan, Juleka, and Rose more. I wanted to do more with them, but the story was taking me in other directions. I’m at least glad I got their POVs and the dream chapters.

-I wouldn’t have announced Marinette not forgiving Adrien by the end. Not because I think she’s obligated to or because he deserves it, but because I now feel compelled to write it that way rather than letting it happen organically. Truthfully, I’m undecided now if she will or won’t. She’s the last chapter of the epilogue so I have some time, but still.

Those are the ones that come to mind, but others might hit me later.

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It will be bittersweet to see "TOtMIS" come to an end; I know we're not quite there yet but it's certainly up there as one of my favourite ML sagas and the whole story is better than anything canon could have done. Your creativity is something to behold! Thank you for sharing it with the rest of us.

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Thank you so much for coming along for the ride! It’s been almost four years at this point since it started, and I’m always glad to hear people still enjoy it!

There are still a few oneshots I’d like to do for the anniversary collection, but I am glad that the main story will be complete. The story started during an era of the Miraculous fandom that I think we’ve moved past for the most part. Sure, there’s still salt, but it’s not quite the same as it was, and that’s fine. I haven’t been quite as involved, mostly because I’ve stopped watching and real life commitments have held my attention, but it was fun while it lasted.

This story will always remind me that it’s okay to take matters into your own hands, and write what you wish could have happened. It doesn’t matter if canon says Luka and Marinette won’t get back together. Because for me, I have my own takes about the ways they end up as endgame, as well as the wonderful works of so many other writers.

Thank you again for reading!

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Anonymous asked:

By this point, I think it’s safe to say that Miraculous Ladybug is not about ‘girl power’.  Not in the way that’s traditionally meant.  Rather than empowering girls, it’s about disempowering them – presenting the idea of girls having any kind of power as problematic.

The series twists itself into knots blaming Marinette for everything that goes wrong, following the most inane lines of ‘logic’ imaginable.  It is far more invested in convincing its audience that she IS to blame for things far out of her control, that she is responsible for everything bad that happens.  Her, and perhaps a few other characters as well… namely Chloe, Alya, Lila…

Oh, Adrien?  Why, Adrien hasn’t done anything wrong.  How could you even suggest such a thing?  No, no, Adrien is perfect just the way he is, hasn’t made a single misstep anywhere.  There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

And what makes this all so much more disturbing is how it’s working.  How much of the fanbase mindlessly parrots the party line, cheering on her suffering and insisting that she ’deserves it’, that her misery is well warranted.  This is not and has never been a show about uplifting and supporting young girls; it is about tearing them down and punishing them for not catering to spoiled brats like Adrien.  Teaching them that this is the way things are meant to be.

What is this going to teach impressionable young girls? If you have a crush on a popular guy that other girls like, they’re are immediately your enemies. It’s natural for girls to be pinned against eachother for the stupidest reasons. Teaching girls to turn against each other and mistreat each other like the common stereotype. That their only good people if they bend over backwards for the person they like even though their crush doesn’t do the same.

It’s disgusting.

Well anon, you've essentially summed up the reason why I quit watching this show.

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Anonymous asked:

This is a few days late, but here it goes:

Are there Adrien Salt takes that you disagree with?

Like any in particular? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but there are some I know I don't remember or haven't heard yet.

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Anonymous asked:

shugo chara is weird because the narrative with the guardian characters in a way works really well with elementary/middle school students, but personally i can still see that working well with high school aged students... kukai can easily be graduating high school and moving onto college. the status of the guardians as student council would make a bit more sense as japanese high school student council committees actually do have quite a bit of power and prestige and imagine that's a bit more important in high school than elementary lol. (side note, that would be very unfair to the students who would be great at student council because there's a lot of college benefits afaik BUT NOOO THEY DIDNT LAY EGGS) and relationship wise it would be a lot easier to watch a high school aged amu get teased by ikuto, who could still be a senior in a private catholic school (i think that's what him and utau went to with their gothic uniforms?? lol)... but on the other hand i watched shugo chara as a kid and it really meant a lot to see characters i could relate to actually deal with mature realistic problems even in their magical fun world. and them being in high school kind of demands an explanation (or exploration) into the stress of studying and preparation for college. sorry kind of ranting at you but it's something i think about a lot!

They probably could meet somewhere in the middle, and just have them in middle school, and then age characters up or down so they’re isn’t as large a gap. Kukai can still be a year older, so when he leaves, he’s entering high school instead of middle school. Ikuto and Utau (who I’m now making twins) could be a year above Kukai. (I’m pretty sure that Ikuto starts the manga at 15/16 anyway, and Utau is supposed to be a year younger?) And Kairi and Yaya can just be in the same grade for the sake of simplicity. Pretty much all of the other guardians (Amu, Tadase, Rima, and Nagihiko) are the same grade, so we’d just have to age them up (Nikaidou arc would have them as 2nd year Middle schoolers, Dia arc onwards would be 3rd years).

Not sure how student council would work out - I would imagine that they would be more influential than in an elementary school but without robbing everyone else of the chance to score that sweet college credit.

The stress of getting into a good college would then turn into the stress of getting into their high school of choice, which I’m pretty sure is a big deal in Japan. This could easily play a role for Amu during the Dia arc and beyond (in this version of the story, she would be in her final year of middle school, getting ready to enter high school).

From what I understand, in Japan, crosses in fashion are generally just used as an accent to look cool. I don’t really think it’s meant to be religious in this context (pretty sure Mello from Death Note also wore crosses for similar reasons).

I absolutely agree about how the series was more mature in approaching certain topics. I first got into SC when I was in middle school myself, and I was in high school when it ended, and other than like, Shugo Chara Party, I never felt alienated by the series for being an older viewer. The Dia arc really spoke to me when I was going through some stuff in my second year of college (someday I’m going to write an analysis of it because it’s soooo good!) and this was YEARS after the story ended. It’s one of the reasons it’s stuck with me, probably even more so than like Sailor Moon.

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Anonymous asked:

I don't understand why the creators made that with Luka and Marinette. I want an Extra Season with Lukanette as canon. They deserve be happy. (sorry english is not my language)

I understood you perfectly, anon!

But I can guarantee you they threw it in for the reasons you would expect - to keep people invested in the show. I’m not even entirely sure how much of it was the creators/show runners themselves who wanted to write this in, and how much it was executive meddling. When the inevitable “behind-the-scenes” commentary documentaries come out regarding the show, I’m sure we’ll have a better idea of what really went wrong.

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Anonymous asked:

Your opinion on Ivan/Marinette/Juleka?

To steer the question off course for just a second, I’d actually like to see more interactions among the Kitty Section members in general. I know they get along and all, but I want to see them hang out again and have more subplots.

Anyway, it’s a dynamic I’d like to see.

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