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Just a blog for a mun to answer questions and reblog stuff
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Being trans does not make you immune from being called out when you say the literal exact same things about trans men and transmascs as TERFs do.

I’ve seen TERFs call “he/they females” “grossly misogynistic” and would you look at that, trans folks also use “he/theys” as a noun meaning “misogynists.” As though not wanting to be called “she” makes us sexist instead of, yknow, just transgender. Transmasculinity is not misogyny. People act as though transmasc transitions mean climbing up the gender ladder and kicking women on the way down, when in reality so many of us including myself have it worse than before.

It is not true that there is no way for us to transition without Joining The Side Of The Oppressors. We are still marginalized for our gender identity, just in new ways now; we do not suddenly stop being oppressed under misogyny once our egg cracks. Nobody is saying trans men and transmascs can’t weaponize misogyny, everyone of every gender can, but we are saying it is not required for our manhood and masculinity. We are saying we do not categorically benefit from misogyny the same ways cis men do. Please stop believing the radfems when they say the only way for men to exist is in opposition to women.

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sonority-one

Folks -

I would like to ask you to consider signing and sharing this petition from the ACLU. There's a Supreme Court case on 12/4 that, if ruled right, could protect trans folk (and not just kids) during the upcoming administration. It's 84% of the way to its goal.

I'm happy to discuss any of the info/topics covered here and speak to any concerns if you like. Thank you! ❤️

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katrafiy

Yeah so anyways, contrary to popular misconceptions and fear mongering spread by bigots, post op trans women's vaginas are amazing actually. 💛

ID: A screenshot from the Reddit post linked, with text reading:

"So I'm going to refute some of the more popular myths about trans women's vaginas by directly describing my own fully healed experience. (I had surgery several years ago using a fairly standard penile inversion technique that used some spare internal mucosa to supplement the vaginal lining. Recovery sucked, but it wasn't that bad.)

  1. Yes, all the normal parts of vaginal anatomy are present. I have a vulva with clitoris and labia, a vagina, I can pee normally, etc etc etc.
  2. No, I don't have visible scars. Some of us do, but they're usually not prominent, especially after a few years. Internally, thing must look quite normal too, since I've passed as cis during a pelvic exam with a speculum.
  3. No, it's not an open wound and it won't heal shut if I don't dilate. It's not a piercing, it's a vagina. I don't dilate at all, and not only do I not lose depth, but I can take a fist if I want
  4. No, I don't have to wash my vagina out. It has its own flora, so douching would generally be a great way to get an infection; luckily, it cleans itself. Yes, it smells and tastes normal.
  5. Yes, I have totally normal sensation in my vagina, clitoris, g spot, etc. Yes, I can orgasm. Yes, I can self-lubricate. Yes, I have totally normal vaginal muscles (the vaginal canal transects the pelvic floor muscles, that's why you can grip and do kegels, though my pelvic floor is stronger than most through a lifetime of kegels).
  6. No, I'm neither immune nor unusually prone to STIs, BV, yeast infections, or UTIs.
  7. Yes, I can cis pass while having sex. No, I don't pre-disclose before casual sex, though I also tend to meet partners in trans-positive environments.
  8. Yes, everything feels like it "should"; nothing feels out of place or misaligned, unlike before surgery, and really the only surprise was how unsurprising everything feels.
  9. No, I don't miss my old equipment at all. I do enjoy wearing a strap on sometimes, but that's pretty common among wlw."

IT SELF LUBRICATES????? Why the FUCK isnt this common knowledge??????

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It’s actually awful how hostile the trans community is specifically to people who are both trans and intersex.

If you’re trans people still want to force you into their stupid little AMAB/AFAB binary. You have to be either a trans woman (or at least transfem) or a trans man (or at least transmasc). Even ignoring how exorsexist this is, it leaves no room for intersex people who are between cis and trans, no room for intersex people who are trans in nonormative ways (ex. AMAB* trans men, AFAB* trans women, intergender trans people), no room for intersex people who are trans in more than one way (ex. transfemasc/transmascfem people).

Gender and sex isn’t either/or, guys, and experiences are varied.

* I normally don’t like the widespread usage of AGABs because they (or at least the way people use them) erase intersex experiences but I’m using them here to demonstrate my point on how other people discuss trans and intersex people.

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i get a lot of "don't talk about bigender trans women who are also men because being a man means you can't be a woman and being a man cancels out womanhood and being a man means that they would be dysphoric and not feel like a girl so it would make the trans girls feel bad so never call them a man ever"

we're still collectively stuck on "man cancels out woman" that people literally plug their ears and call you transphobic when you talk about trans women who specifically also identify as men in their own words. people will piss and cry and say its transphobic to refer to this person as a man, ever, because they're a woman and being a man means they'll be dysphoric because it's cancelling out their womanhood. like this is the level of mental gymnastics we're performing at this stage

not all trans women are men. not every trans woman is also a man. most trans women do not want to be referred to or thought of as men. and that's important. but some trans women are also men and if you refuse to accept their male identity you are misgendering them. however you're not easing their dysphoria. you're not doing them any favors by aggressively acknowledging their womanhood and ignoring and even denying their manhood. you're not doing anyone any favors by saying that it will make other trans women dysphoric of a different trans woman also identifies as a man

people are doing a great job of speaking for transfemmes by telling us this is transphobic and dysphoric, instead of letting us speak to say that there are in fact bigender, multigender, genderfluid, non binary, genderqueer, intersex and two spirit trans women who do, in fact, identify as men and it's not a begrudging or painful thing, but another beautiful part of our identities that does not and will not ever cancel out our womanhood. sorry that bothers you, but its your own internal transphobia you must work past, because you are the one who is uncomfortable- not the trans woman who is also a man. they're only uncomfortable when you refuse to acknowledge both or all of their genders.

like can we all finally get on the same fucking page that forcefully only acknowledging a trans woman's identity if she's only a feminine woman and she only uses she/her pronouns isn't helping anyone. can we finally start acknowledging that denying the existence of bigender, multigender, genderfluid, non binary, genderqueer, two spirit and gender vast trans women isn't helping anyone and and that being non binary applies to all AGABs and genders

can we stop fucking telling trans women what to do and how to have a gender "correctly". let's all fucking do better.

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Sylvia Rivera calling out gays and lesbians for their trans exclusion in 1973 at the Christopher Street Liberation Day rally (x)

Still relevant

And if I’m not mistaken, Sylvia Rivera was *specifically* addressing WHITE gays and white feminists here. She called out these middle/upper class white folks who strove only for assimilation while neglecting Black and brown LGBT people who were poor and struggling and languishing in prison. White Gays and feminists didn’t like the way revolutionary figures like Sylvia were “rocking the boat”

Specification is important here because antiblackness and racism are still rampant in the LGBT community and Black + brown LGBT folks have had to make communities of our own because white LGBT people ostracize us.

Specifically she was calling out both the Women’s Liberation Front and LGBT community, both of which were present in the crowd. (Both movements supported each other as both communities were deeply invested in the turnout of the 1973 ruling on Roe v Wade).

And she was calling them out because she had to TAKE the mic. They were booing her. They didn’t want to see the trans and genderqueer faces of the people who started the movement and then put their entire lives on the line for it. After throwing the first bricks, cis gays and lesbians were happy to discard and forget that it was trans women and folk in drag who threw them.

And that is the context of this.

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Everything is like “QUEER history” and “List of QUEER young adult books” or “Top 10 QUEER movies” and queer this and queer that and for the love of god please just say LGBT.

But queer is more inclusive

And faster to pronounce if you are talking instead of writing.

It’s not more inclusive, and if your excuse of using a slur as a blanket term is “it’s faster to say”, GENUINELY what is wrong with you

It’s called economía del lenguaje.

It’s also the respected academic term?? The acronym isn’t static and it’s usage is varied by things like generational difference, location, and knowledge of the community. Even just in the U.S. in the last few decades the common usage gone from GLBT to LGBT to LGBTQ, to LGBTQA/LGBTQIA/LGBTQIAP/etc (Which, let me tell you as someone who has given presentations in the past using these updated acronyms, are all real mouthfulls), to LGBT+.

Also yes, queer is more inclusive! Especially coming at it from an academic standpoint, people didn’t always use or identify with the terms we use now and you can’t always try to cram them into our modern perceptions of sexuality. We can argue for years about whether a famous historical figure was gay or bisexual or straight and trans or whatever, but if we can all agree that they were somehow queer then using that term allows us to move past the debate and into productive discussion. And not everybody everywhere shares the same terms for sexual and gender identity, or even the same concepts of those things, so queer really is a more inclusive term in a lot of cases.

Like yeah if you’re talking specifically about gay or trans people you can just say gay or transgender, but if you’re talking about more than one identity or someone who doesn’t conform to our perceptions of ‘LGBT,’ or a person or people whose identity you don’t know, queer is just the better word.

“That’s SO gay”, “Oh my god, you’re not a LESBIAN, are you?”

Your words are slurs, too. Why do you get your words, but I don’t get mine? What makes you so special?

I’m here, I’m queer, go fuck yourself.

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levynite

queer is not a slur, stop drinking the TERF koolaid

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darthsuki

every time one of you fools spout about ‘queer is a slur’ a terf laughs because their fucking plan to make that word ‘taboo’ is fucking working you dipshit.

I did not get my degree in queer literature for you all to keep pulling this bullshit.

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moki-dokie

baby gays,,,, i beg of you to learn your queer history and stop listening to terf bullshit

every single one of our labels has been used as a slur against us.

terfs and -phobes are always going to try and hurt us with what we identify as. but the fact remains these are OUR labels and always have been.

we’re here, we’re queer, get used to it.

I don’t know if this is just because I’m not American but I’ve never heard queer used as a slur. Ever. Meanwhile gay was the insult in the 2000s here. Everything you didn’t like was ‘soo gay’. Queer wasn’t even a word most of us knew back then.

It just baffled me that people would think an identifier is automatically a slur just because someone uses it to mock someone. If we did that gay would be a slur. Stupid would be a slur. Autistic would be a slur.

The reason people are upset about the word queer is that it’s a unifying term. You can say you’re queer and all people will know is that you’re part of the community. But you can’t say you’re LGBT, you have to say you’re gay or trans or ace. They don’t want you to be ambiguously queer. They want you to say which kind of queer you are so they can decide whether you’re undesirable.

yeah in the 90s and early 2000s kids would call each other “gay” as an insult. But no one ties themselves in knots over whether “gay” is a slur. So yeah, please ffs learn your history.

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rabidchild67

They want you to say which kind of queer you are so they can decide whether you’re undesirable.

They want you to say which kind of queer you are so they can decide whether you’re allowed to live.

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TRANS PEOPLE, DROP YOUR MUTUAL AID LINKS HERE.

CIS PEOPLE? DONATE AND SHARE.

And cis folk? ZERO excuses from the lot of you this time. None of us have patience and that fucker used a THIRD of his ad campaign targeting us. If you aren't supporting trans people directly, you need to rethink following me. Clear?

And anyone questioning if they're trans enough to add theirs? If you're questioning if you're trans enough, you're trans as fuck. Post it.

Here's mine:

I go to surgery in 20 days. And I desperately need help.

Here's mine: I'm out of work and really need some help with bills and I really need to see a doctor about my chronic pain

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yaoimanpussy

Here’s mine: I still need $155 to pay of some medical bills and I need help getting money to pay my monthly student loan payment and my T. I’m also planning on opening my commissions again soon to help me get more money.

heres mine: im a mentally + physically disabled trans enby whos so exhausted. my disabilities make it so that i had to cut down my hours at work and that of course means i make even less at my already seriously underpaid & underfunded job. to make matters worse, the 2024 election results could literally lead to my job getting dissolved entirely if project 2025 gets enacted.

can somebody please help me out?

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My fellow Asexuals, rise. Tag yourself if you too are a strange little harlequin with sexually ambiguous energy that walks the circus grounds-

I just really wanted to make myself a clown too before the month ended, my ace identity means a lot to me after years of questioning if it really was "me" or not and wondering "Do I fit the definition?"

Turns out, there was more than one definition for me to read up on and one day in 2021 I read the one that felt like *me* for the first time since I was 15 and didn't know the real size of the queer world. Funnily enough, ever since I figured myself out every year I've had one or more friends come out to me as ace too. It feels like I'm not alone anymore, I'm surrounded by people who know they can talk to me about this. I'm Ageosexual/Sex Repulsed and proud!

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35 days left.

I've spent the better part of the last three weeks establishing myself in a new home and starting to heal up from the relationship and life I left behind. For those who missed it, my wife and I separated for a number of reasons, and I had to move out on my own, just two months before my surgery date.

And now there's only 35 days.

I'm listening to Ethel Cain, and working on new art and releasing books to desperately try to keep myself going and these days the clock just seems to be ticking louder and louder and closer and closer.

35 days and it isn't time enough, not when I had to spend through everything I've earned or had donated just to get this far and be safe. Yes, it took everything. Every cent the gofundme had earned up until October, plus help from friends and followers elsewhere. So I'm updating to ask for help again. If you can kick funds in with another donation, I'd appreciate it so much- I'm starting back from rock bottom. If not, no worries, I fully understand- besides, this was never meant to do everything it's had to get used for in the meantime. But if you can help, please do. Even if it's just sharing this update and my link around, it'd be much appreciated.

I just want to be able to survive and make it through this. 35 days left. I can do this.

Source: gofundme.com
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you cannot be a queer person whose whole aesthetic is "in a freak the government warned you about" and then get squicked out and clutch pearls over kink, especially lukewarm furry kink.

sometimes I genuinely do think it's folks adopting the "freak" label do it in an attempt to be different but get up in arms over something as milquetoast as plush kink/objectum stuff.

to be queer is to respect sexuality and kink as a part of our community

I will gladly shake the hand(or paw) and befriend a leather pup-play fag than be around assimillist who adopt freak labels as an aesthetic.

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Read it and read it again. Stop trying to define everything by colonial binaries and dictating other people’s identity. Stop using the language that TERFs and other transphobes brought and build in our communities. Fight this rhetoric. Embrace the irrationality of queerness. In the end, we’re the ones keeping our community alive. We have to stand up for each other and fight queerphobia, even when it comes from those within the community. Thank you, Alitsanosga for writing all of this out and sharing. 

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aeide-thea

Images above are screenshots of the following thread by twitter user @saturniidaemon:

On lesbianism, white queerness, and 2S identity:
I am a two-spirit. My identity is specific to my Tribe and Clan, and even more specific to my family. I am not a man, I am not a woman, and I am not nonbinary; I am not defined by what I am not. I am a two-spirit and I am a lesbian. That’s not debatable. But I am not a non-man.
There’s an idea of two-spirits that we are just the ethnic version of non-binary We’re not. The reason you’re so comfortable calling us non-binary is because your idea of queerness is centered around the binary&what you are not: you’re not cishet, you’re not the oppressor, etc
White queers like to speak about 2S identities constantly as if we are monolith. “It’s just a gender” “it’s not a gender” “they’re not trans” “they’re not queer” “they don’t belong here” The community tries to decide for the individual and that’s so weird to me.
So much of white queerness is inherently about exclusion. You need strict labels to exclude the people you fear. You write your definitions around your fear of intruders and by consequence you exclude the people that need your support the most.
You need people to “prove” they are queer before you let them in. You’re like a fortress and you let vulnerable people drown in the moat; ignoring that the real oppressors don’t need to be a Trojan horse to do damage, ignoring they are actively burning down the castle.
It’s very sad to me, because it’s ultimately tearing the community apart even further. I’ve never felt very welcome in white lesbian circles and they’ve never understood my experience of gender, but it’s gotten worse in the past 5 or so years.
As TERFs start to revive gold star lesbianism and center hatred of men as their definition of lesbianism, you start to get these younger lesbians that don’t know history that start to parrot the rhetoric. First it’s “non-men loving non-men” then it’s “you’re too close to Man™”
For many two-spirit lesbians like myself, this is very concerning. White lesbians are historically not the ones targeted by radfems. Now we’ve gotten to the point that there are people denying that lesbian is an mspec (multispec) identity while including (white) nonbinary people
White nonbinary people (usually AFAB nonbinary people) are seen as woman lite and are welcome in white lesbian spaces while queer Indigenous people are considered dangerous because white lesbians can’t understand their gender. When did understanding become a requirement?
We’re getting very dangerously close to “lesbianism is ONLY attraction to women” and very close to “lesbianism is only attraction to a very specific type of (white) woman” and I really need young white lesbians to read about political lesbianism so they can see this
I don’t want to hear “not all lesbians” or “well then they aren’t welcome” because every time this rhetoric goes unchallenged you are actively welcoming these people to continue it and make it more and more extreme. Yes, even the kind that seems to have nothing to do with racism
Almost all of your exclusionary rhetoric is based on the racist ideas of political lesbianism and I do not know why you all cannot see that they want to move goalposts. It wasn’t just bi lesbians, it wasn’t just he/him lesbians, it wasn’t just nonbinary lesbians. It’s a tactic.
It really feels like young lesbians are not only letting us go backwards, but encouraging it. And that’s thanks in part to the historical racism of political lesbianism, but many of these people ARE old enough to think critically and talk to people who’ve been through this.
So far I’ve seen this in younger lesbian spaces; the ones with older generations (the ones that don’t welcome TERFs) have been pretty welcoming even if not totally understanding, because they at least recognize that you don’t need to understand someone’s experience to validate it
But I’m really concerned for the young Indigenous lesbians who don’t feel comfortable around older people and are going to these younger lesbian spaces only to be indoctrinated with thinly veiled TERF rhetoric. It makes me very concerned for our spaces as well.
So I’ll say again I am not a non-man and I am not a non-woman. I’m not defined by what I am not. I do not ascribe to your binary-centric definitions of queerness. I experience queer attraction to women. I’m a lesbian. You do not get to use community to decide my individuality.
Thread by ~Alitsanosga 🍓
Pronouns: hi’a/vsgina/utseli/uwasa
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saintjosie

i think it’s very important to note that while discussions of transmisogny very much so exist in other online and real world spaces, discussions of “tme” do not…except in transmedicalist spaces

i wonder why that is?

i posted this without nuance because i was annoyed but there are some tags that are misunderstanding transmisogny and also why i hate the idea of “tme”. so let me break it down for yall.

first of all, what is transmisogny? transmisogny is a term coined to label the specific form of marginalization that occurs at the intersection of both transphobia and misogny as it affects trans women. and yes, this only applies to trans women because that’s just the definition of the word as we use it at the moment and it’s not something i just made up. yes there are people who experience who experience both transphobia and misogyny but in this case, that is not what we are talking about.

well that sure sounds like some people are exempt from experiencing transmisogyny doesn’t it? so then what’s the issue with “tme”?

the issue is how the discussion around transmisogny has evolved. transmisogny is absolutely a necessary concept in the same way that misogynoir is a necessary concept. we needed a word to describe the unique intersection of transphobia and misogyny that trans women face in order to discuss it. and in many other online spaces and also in discussions that happen in irl queer circles, that’s exactly how it’s used. and that’s a good thing!

but also there has been a noticeable shift in online spaces where terms that we use within the trans community have been weaponized against other trans women to invalidate the way that some people transition.

for example, the terms “transsexual” has a complicated history of being used to invalidate the experiences of trans women unable to medically transition and weaponized against bipoc trans women specifically. that’s where the term originally comes from.

if you don’t believe me then listen to the experts:

mardi is a trans woman who is deeply respect because she is literally living history and a trailblazer carving the for trans women to exist as we do today.

and this is the post that educated me about this. (i’m not gonna find a link, you can do that yourself, but i absolutely did do the research and found the history of this and you can too.)

now does that mean that i think trans people should stop using the label transsexual? no, absolutely not. and that’s because this is a label that was slowly being reclaimed. but there is an enormous difference between knowing and understanding the complicated history of a label and its usage and choosing to use it anyways for the sake of reclamation and then actively working towards dismantling oppression.

and i specifically want to emphasize both the “was” and “active” portions here because the sad truth is that the overwhelming majority of people who identify as transsexual do not know or understand the history of the label and also do not ACTIVELY work towards dismantling oppression. and even worse, an overwhelming majority of these people are unknowingly and sometimes even intentionally using transsexual to once again differentiate between those able to “fully” medically transition. and yeah that means that these people are specifically invalidating any trans woman who doesn’t have bottom dysphoria and doesn’t want bottom surgery.

and THAT is the issue. online trans discourse is regressing back through decades of work that bipoc trans women and intersectional feminists have fought for with their blood sweat and tears, all so that the most privileged of white trans women can defend their twitter presence and throw their weight around online.

and now a major trigger warning is necessary for the next paragraph for mention of suicide.

//having once been welcomed into and also actively a part of these circles, i’ve seen trans women of color harrassed and bullied off the internet by white trans fems with hundreds of thousands of twitter followers. i’ve seen bipoc trans women literally take their own lives over this.// end tw.

and now we come back to transmisogny and “tme”. the white trans women committing actual violence towards other trans women are using their marginalized identity as a shield to prevent themselves from criticism. they are using the fact that they sit at the intersection of transphobia and misogyny to excuse their behavior and go without any consequence.

i’ve seen these trans women go on rants after this violence has occurred saying things like “that’s horrible that this person faced this but also i am still right and i can say these things because i am a trans woman and i face constant marginalization online.”

and to be perfectly honest, i talk about this mainly because this is something i have been guilty of myself in the past. because i, as a cis-passing east asian trans woman with pretty privilege, have proximity to whiteness in a way that bipoc trans women do not. and once it was pointed out to me by an incredibly kind and gracious bipoc trans woman, i had to take a real long and hard look at my internet presence and subsequently had work on myself for years to correct and atone for.

now we get to the core of the issue that i have with the idea of “tme”. this is the exact same behavior that we are now seeing from trans women who frequently talk about “tme”. and yep, once again the overwhelming majority of people who are using this are white.

by nature, the word exempt is excluding anyone who doesn’t identify as a trans woman from having any meaningful participation in the discussion around transmisogny because we are using this as a phrase to mean “shut up and listen to people more marginalized than you”. and more than the hurt that causes to “tme people” the real damage that this discussion has caused is to our own community.

because guess what, we as trans women DO face the most marginalization. and all we are doing by talking transmisogny in this way is alienating many of our own allies and degrading hope in true solidarity within our own community.

the reason i am so adamant about making this point is that there is an incredibly real problem of white queer people in general failing to recognize that white privilege will always supercede and form of marginalization. we talk about intersectionality by name only without ACTIVELY doing the work to dismantle oppression and in doing so, continue to alienate black and indigenous people within our community.

without acknowledging and dismantling whiteness, we end up doing things like making the majority of queer spaces irl inaccessible. how often do you see disabled people at queer bars? have you even bothered to check if your favorite queer bar has wheel chair access that isn’t being just being ushered by an employee through the back door?

how often do you see bipoc trans people in these spaces? have you ever stopped to ask them why? do you even know any bipoc trans people to ask?

ACTIVE dismantling requires more than just reblogging takes you see online.

ACTIVE dismantling requires listening.

ACTIVE dismantling requires constant self reflection and dismantling of your own privilege.

ACTIVE dismantling means praxis and not just discourse.

so if you have actually read this far, i would like to ask you - have you forgotten the active portion of your activism? are you “tma” and perpetuating transmisogny through alienation of the rest of our community?

just food for thought.

julia serano is who coined the term transmisogny so that’s more or less everything you need to know right there 🤷‍♀️

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