imho one of the biggest inherent weaknesses in the argument that “the North wanting to break away from the Iron Throne is basically nonsense and doesn’t actually matter” is that it essentially renders a HUGE part of both Robb and Cat’s character arcs a waste of time and completely useless, including (but not limited to) their (tragic, martyr style) deaths, as well as the deaths of everyone else at the Red Wedding…
which, i mean, if that’s how you wanna roll then by all means.
it’s just that it kind of feels like that’s a whole hell of a lot of narrative space and plot progression and character development to waste on some total bullshit, baseless theory that was completely fabricated by a fandom cult made up of stupid stans who can’t read…
but maybe that’s just me.