hermitcraft: chaotic, chill, unhinged, all the members are between the ages of 25 and 60 something, minimal angst, thriving, fandom has a large impact on people's individual lore, capitalism
dsmp: all young adults, unhinged and chaotic but not chill, hell everywhere, all angst, oldest member is 30, lore, dead basically, they come up with most of (if not all) their lore, not capitalism, only theft