“Kylo’s journey really opened my imagination as an actor. Things had come almost full circle with him. For the first time someone had shown him what I think maybe he perceived as a huge act of generosity in spite of what he had done.”
— ADAM DRIVER in the TROS documentary, “The Skywalker Legacy”
Parlons rédemption ! Claire @claireno45 et Aurélie s'inspirent du traitement désastreux de Ben Solo dans L'Ascension de Skywalker pour décortiquer les fondements d'un arc de rédemption dans la pop culture occidentale.
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I never thought I could find it in myself to get even angrier about TROS and feeling so much resentment towards JJ’s decisions :(
this is the way.
“I fought so that we could feel some compassion for him...” almost makes it sound like JJ never intended for Kylo to be a multifaceted character, and instead wanted him to just be the villain, and it was Adam who injected so much character into him, which Rian then ran with because he’s a good storyteller 🤔🤔🤔
Because honestly what is there in tfa to make Kylo interesting aside from Adam’s portrayal of him???
I wholeheartedly believe that Adam fought to give Kylo’s character more pathos, with his whole chest! Remember that scene in TFA that they digitally inserted the mask over Adam’s face? I see what they did.
right, yes, I remember, could they have done it in TROS????
Adam was a complete bendemptionist and a Reylo at heart.
Redemption.
Ben deserved to live.
oh gosh so perfect!
but let’s talk about the change in his eyes and how they softened drastically
Man I’m not sure about your audience but both audiences I saw at press screenings clapped when Kylo died. Which makes me curious about the general expections and the reylo fans... cause most of the non reylo fans have always been like he isn’t getting out of this alive. You don’t kinslay someone from the original movies and get to have a happy ending. You get redeemed. You die afterwards. And honestly Ben and Anakin need to be in the dumb bitch corner.
People gasped. And when the lights came back on I saw grown men dry their tears. People rushed out in silence, there wasn’t a single cheer heard through the entire agonizing 2.5 hours.
But sure, some people will love it. Many will not. Supposedly it got a standing ovation at the LA premiere even though people present described the audience as zombies going through the motions, including people that had worked on the film. Because this was expected of them. And I would imagine the same from press. These aren’t ardent Star Wars fans, but members of press that are there to do their job.
I really can’t agree with your generalization because you may forget that Star Wars has a global audience that doesn’t at all relate to the waspy Christian American experience and system of beliefs which is apparent in this understanding of how redemption works. I can’t at all agree with what you imply is inherent here.
And frankly, you’re just wrong. But if years of explaining how isolating and grooming works and what it was that made both Anakin and Ben fall into the dark side and commit terrible deeds hasn’t worn off on you then I am not going to perform miracles in the span of a single reply.
in my cinema, in France, people went “ohhhhh” when they kissed and gasped in shock when he died... then silence.... and quick exit, no smiles, for the end of space fairy tale, it was weird.
Agree, the American puritan views seems to have forced the ending to the punished corner.... you know, death sentence and all that, not so much here... death is not the only way.
Adam Driver on Kylo Ren [Rolling Stone] (via son-of-alderaan)
God on high Hear my prayer In my need You have always been there He is young He's afraid Let him rest Heaven blessed. Bring him home Bring him home Bring him home. He's like the son I might have known If God had granted me a son. The summers die One by one How soon they fly On and on And I am old And will be gone. Bring him peace Bring him joy He is young He is only a boy You can take You can give Let him be Let him live If I die, let me die Let him live Bring him home Bring him home Bring him home.
I love how the light grows little by little in each frame. And now in TROS, he’s surrounded by it. 😭 I’m not crying—nope!
#BENDEMPTION ✨✨
The light shines on him <3
I…..have so many questions….
SO MANY QUESTIONS….BUT THE ANSWERS ARE SO FEW….
BUT THIS ANSWERS SOMETHING KIND OF IMPORTANT HE RAN AFTER HE THOUGHT HE KILLED LUKE AND THE OTHER STUDENTS WERE THE ONES WHO PURSUED HIM. THEY ENGAGED HIM. IT WASN’T A MASSACRE. IT WAS A FIGHT.
Also just a fun note, that one Knight at the back with the characters etched into his mask, and the red saber-looking thing…. he’s wearing a torn cowl. Perhaps he’s the former Master and after his defeat, Ben probably took his cowl too XD.
misunderstandings....the biggest trope of all...
It’s a big part of the plot so don’t read if you don’t want to spoil the book for yourself! The excerpt is also quite graphic so please consider yourselves warned. I’ve tried to tag it accordingly.
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this is a hard read…I just can’t handle all the abuse this character has been through….unfortunately most part of the general audience isn’t aware of these canon books…..“wonderful childhood” indeed
@o0-snowdrop-0o I agree it’s a hard read. Heartbreaking growing up with this sense of fear and abandonment….feeling threatened from 2 by a droid to his teens by his own uncle :( … but even worse, it was always there and never stopped…
I hope the movies will show glimpses of the past somehow for the audience’s sake…. it needs to be known clearly, although it’s been alluded at….
just awful :(
yes especially his parents and family were all oblivious and blamed him and him only; until it seemed too late .... when you read this you know Ben Solo will live, in the end, whatever happens in the movie, because anything else would be tragic!
A symbolic death like a phoenix rising stronger form its ashes maybe.
↳ George Lucas
“What’s one aspect about Kylo Ren you’re excited for fans to see in the next film?” (Pre TLJ interview).
Adam Driver: “I think, maybe this is such a general answer but you know, humanity.”
“What role the boy would play in the future was less clear. He called himself Kylo Ren, but as with so much else about him, that was more wish fulfillment than reality. He had never escaped being Ben Solo, or learned to resit the pull of the weak and pathetic light, or had the strength to excise the sentimental streak that had destroyed his legendary grandfather. And then there was his most glaring failure of all: his inability or unwillingness to use his power to redirect the course of his own destiny.”
↳ Snoke, The Last Jedi Novelization by Jason Fry
just a frightened boy ... who longs to be loved.
