First Reylo kiss
What does everyone think? Will Ben and Rey have their first kiss in Episode IX in person or through the Force bond? What are your theories and context of the kiss? Ready, go!
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Interesting question. I think which kiss it’ll be depends on when it happens. On the one hand, the first kiss might occur at the end of the movie, in act III. This will be a physical one, most likely in a moment of crisis before the movie climax or at the very end, post everything.
On the other hand, I think more likely, just like the last 2 movies, the writers will place their relationship’s turning point at the midpoint of the movie. So you have the bridal carry/ interrogation scence about halfway through TFA, same with the hand touch in TLJ and so a declaration of love and first kiss will make sense at ep IX’s mid point/middle of Act 2. This will consolidate their feelings for each other and raise the stakes going into the final fight when either of their lives is threatened. So it could be a Force bond one before they get reunited physically during the act 3 big battle. Or a physical kiss depending on the plot and what events have led up to that point.
Good question. Thank you so much @greyforceuser for asking and including me in the group discussion!
Very good remark from @feebtastic that the middle of the movie has become an important moment for the progression of the Reylo relationship, so, in all likelihood, something major is bound to happen at the midpoint of IX. So vii, they meet, viii they touch hands, ix they….
I would go with the declaration of love, personally. Somehow, I do not want them to be sharing their first kiss through a Force bond even though I enjoy it in fan fiction. I think their first kiss should be in person and like @feebtastic I would say the end. Rian Johnson’s point about the Force bond was to have them talk, not fight or make out, so talk they should.
But the hand scene also upped the ante considerably: it showed us that they could physically reach out for each other, and I think it is also very likely they will build on that on episode ix, otherwise they would not have included it.
Guys, here we are talking about the big love scene, and do you realize that a lot of people are wondering about fight scenes…I was absolutely appalled when I read on sites like Melty that they are expecting a fight scene between Rey and Kylo in a rematch from vii. It makes me wonder what movie they went to watch… At the same time, when I try to see things from their viewpoint, it makes sense. And I am not talking about the stupid sh*t (excuse my French) about Kylo becoming Vader 2.0. There are people with lightsabers, they want lightsaber fights because they are cool, and yes the god of lightsaber fights must be appeased. There is indeed a to-do list for the guys in Star Wars to go by. And yes, final fight is in the charts if you base yourself on …like… what…every Star Wars movie ever….
But even if there was a lightsaber fight, this is how it plays out for me:
- a ruse where they end up fighting together after making believe they were fighting each other at the beginning (and then turning back onto the First Order)
- more likely, during the scene one yields and throws away the saber (for obvious reasons of redemption it has to be Kylo) and they end up kissing because they do not want to kill each other.
I see this happening for two reasons: Kylo will not kill Rey, nor Rey Kylo. It won’t happen, in order to respect the reverse Anidala. And the duel has to be aborted as in the final showdown between Luke and Vader (Luke threw away his saber after all), and to show Kylo has evolved since the end of TLJ. I know I digressed a bit from the original question, but it is still linked insofar as to me this duel has all the works to be the preliminary to a most romantic kiss.
So, to tie it all up… at the midpoint, they could be avowing their love but say there is no future for their relationship. There could be tears, hands touching cheeks, or a gentle touch of the foreheads. And they would meet again on the battlefield, start a fight, give up, and kiss passionately.
But with Star Wars blowing up everyone’s expectations with those two, and considering Kylo’s penitent state at the end of TLJ, the talk could happen fairly early in the first half of the movie; at the midpoint, the kiss, and not through a Force bond (and maybe more! with all the clues about babies and mating in viii, there should be some babymaking); so they fight side by the side at the end (must appease the gods of fighting, remember). No matter what, this is what I am absolutely confident about:
- Reylo is endgame
- they will kiss (Carrie Fisher promised Daisy a kiss, she should have one in memory of our Princess Leia)
@clairen45 I’m similarly appalled by people claiming there should be a lightsaber fight between Rey and Kylo in ep. IX. I think these are just really recalcitrant people who refuse to see the romantic undertones in these 2 characters’ dynamic and how they work best when they work together, not against each other. I mean I do want my epic SW fight/battle but not between these 2. There’s no stake in a rematch.
In all honesty, I’m only saying that the first kiss (no matter how chaste and brief or desperate and doomed it is) should be about the midpoint because I don’t think we’ll survive the building tension beyond that. 😆 Neither will these two. The moment they admit any kind of deep intense feelings to each other they’ll be all over the other. Ideally it’ll be a really quiet intimate moment (like the hand touch scene) for the first kiss, but I fully expect a grand, ‘put the Scotland landscape in the background with a beautiful sunset behind them’ kiss at the end of the film.
(these will also sort of mirror Anidala’s scenes. Before the coliseum battle and the marriage scene in AotC)
2 years @feebtastic … 2 years… our heads will explode! I think my big issue with predicting stuff is that I don’t want to be disappointed. I am 100% sure about the romantic plot, but I don’t want to go in 2019 after 2 years of wild speculation and see them do their thing and go…mehhh… That was so much better in my head…
I call an interrupted almost-kiss, at a certain point.
Almost kiss is always good to build tension. Maybe they are using the Force Bond and someone (either Hux or Rey’s friends) enters and interrupts.
Thanks so much for including me in this discussion @greyforceuser!
I love everyone’s observations so far. I agree with @feebtastic that they need something to build tension in the middle. At the same time, I agree with @toawaterfowl and @ambitious-witch that an almost kiss could do the job of building tension, too. And like @clairen45, I want the first kiss to be in person.
With that said, here’s what I’m putting my money on: an almost (interrupted) kiss to build tension in the midpoint, and an actual, in-person kiss in the final scene of the movie. This echoes Anidala’s kisses in AOTC. Yes, Anidala shared a brief kiss in the middle, but the “real deal” was at the end of the movie.
Here are some more detailed predictions for the first Reylo kiss.
I have a strong headcanon that the closing shot of Ep. 9 will be on the Millennium Falcon with Rey and Ben in the pilot and copilot seats. Like Han and Leia in ANH.
This is when I see them slowly leaning in for The Kiss.™ What will it be like, exactly?
What I can’t see happening: A super confident, aggressive, Han/Leia ESB-style kiss. Ben will still be earning Rey’s trust at the end of Ep. 9 (assuming he does something earlier to redeem himself), so he can’t just ravish Rey. Not to mention that they’ve characterized him as an as awkward space virgin, unlike his dad, Han “Mr. Smooth” Solo.
What I can see happening: A kiss that starts off timid, gets more passionate, and then breaks off. There will be prolonged eye contact and closeness afterward, promising us that much more will happen off screen later. 😏 Looks familiar, no?
After the Reylo kiss is over, I see them slowly leaning back, looking back out at the galaxy, and bracing themselves to head off into the unknown together.
I need it so badly!!!!!!!
You guys are all great , and I love the discussion and this fandom so much!
Great question @greyforceuser and great discussion so far - love your comments @toawaterfowl @ambitious-witch @clairen45 & @feebtastic ❤️ I totally agree with @raven-maiden - I really think the last shot of the movie will be Ben & Rey together, not basking in the recognition of the Resistance/Rebellion Ala Ep IV. Not celebrating with everyone Ala Ep VI. I think they will live the rest of their days out isolated from the world at large and polite society, as part of Ben’s atonement. (of course people will come visit them!) I think the biggest kiss will happen then. NGL I’m hoping for one mid-movie, even if it’s just brief, intense, passionate and interrupted. Kind of like Han & Leia’s right before Han gets frozen in Carbonite. ❤️❤️
reblogging for all the lovely discussion, already posted my thoughts in a separate post... damn.
