i loooove toxic and codependent relationships in fiction. they are so narratively juicy. if they don’t even warp and mangle each other to the point they create a single, fucked up entity then what’s the point.
You'd go to hell if she asked and she will.
DOCTOR WHO | The Snowmen // Hell Bent
Twelve: I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT
Me: I’m calling Clara
Twelve: nO WAIT—
Steven: The Doctor is totally in love with Clara
Jenna: Clara is totally in love with the Doctor
Peter: They’re totally in love with each other
Antis: ...So anyway, I love their platonic father-daughter relationship 🥰
Twelve trying to escape The Veil in his confession dial
Twelve: *does something embarrassing*
Clara: I can’t believe I’m gonna sleep with him
Rigsy: Well, you don’t have to..?
Clara: No. I’m gonna.
“I’m not your boyfriend” - Twelve insists, right before whisking Clara off to have magical adventures in space
“I’m not a hugger” - Twelve shrugs, right before lifting Clara off of her feet and spinning her around
“I’m not a kisser” - Twelve murmurs in his soft voice, approaching Clara as she’s leaning against the console in that seductive way she does
“I’m not marriage material” - Twelve swallows, dropping to one knee
“I’m not sure about this, Clara” - Twelve, as Clara goes into labour
“I’m not a parent” - Twelve repeats, when his son gets drunk and breaks the TARDIS computer and grinning his father’s grin the whole time
“I’m not ready” - Twelve chokes, as Clara slips away…
I’m not sure if you analyzed this, but do you know what Twelve mouths to Clara when they’re separated in “under the flood”?
Very interesting question, Anon! I must admit that I'd never considered the idea that Twelve was mouthing something to Clara in that scene. So let's check it out, shall we? First, some context from the scene...
First of all, I adore this scene: the worry in Twelve & Clara's eyes as they're separated, the reaching out to each other across the insurmountable divide, Twelve reassuring Clara as best he can, Clara taking strength from that and doing her best to be brave. Oof, I love it all.
Okay, now let's have a close look at the moment in question (which occurs in the third gif above)...
I always kind of thought Twelve wasn't saying anything here, just sort of, I dunno, gasping? Emoting in some fashion with his mouth? Something like that.
But looking at it now in light of your question, Anon, I do see that it's possible to perceive Twelve as mouthing a word or words. The distortion caused by the water makes it hard to see clearly what he might be saying, but if he's saying anything, it seems surprisingly obvious to me now that he could be saying "I love you," or more specifically, "I love y-" as he's cut off as the shot ends. It's kinda all I can see now.
And if Twelve is actually saying "I love you," then Clara's nod immediately following would make a lot of sense, as she's acknowledging his words (and I think we could assume it's not the first time he's said that, as her response makes it feel more like a reminder than a surprise declaration). If Twelve wasn't saying anything here, it would be a bit of an oddly-timed nod, as Clara nods, pauses, and then places her hand on the glass.
And isn't it interesting that we're talking about words being silently mouthed to someone in an episode where the plot centres on a message that is being silently mouthed and requires lip-reading to be understood? (Maybe Kass could tell us what Twelve really said!)
At the end of the day, I think I'd put the idea of Twelve saying "I love you" here in the category of headcanon that is debatably supported by canon. No matter what, I love the idea!
DOCTOR WHO Nightmare in Silver (7.12) // The Magician’s Apprentice (9.01)
Chips! I read somewhere that Twelve’s theme has a little bit of Clara’s theme in the beginning, or is supposed to remind you of Clara and now I’m a mess.
Hi Anon! I LOVE the idea of there being some overlap between Twelve's theme and Clara's. I don't think I'm musical enough to pick it out myself, but perhaps someone more musical than I can detect it!
(Twelve's theme starts to get going properly around the 2-minute mark of this track.)
I just adore both of these themes, two of my favourite pieces of Murray Gold's great work.
I was scrolling through the comments on Twelve’s theme and someone also brought up that it sounded like Clara’s theme in the beginning as well. Another person responded:
“Yeah! I went to the doctor who symphonic spectacular and got a programme and it had an interview from Murray Gold and he said he tries to take the feeling of the character and put it into music and at the start it looks like he's tried to make us think that the Doctor has a type of feeling toward Clara or Clara is part of the Doctor or something like that.” (via Reece Smith)
Twelve: How’s the hottest woman in all of time and space doing? ;)
Clara: *blushes* I-
Missy: I’m well thanks for asking
I love your explanations! If you don’t mind me asking, in “sleep no more” when Clara and the Doctor talk about Morpheus, I think there was a flirty moment but I don’t really get it lol what were they flirting about?
Thanks for the question (and kind words), Anon! Let's have a look at that great moment in Sleep No More, shall we?
First of all, holy hell, I might be getting slightly seasick looking at these gifs, they were really going all out for that shaky camera look here weren't they? No wonder you were having trouble seeing everything that was going on, Anon!
Okay, closer look at the adorable important bits!
We've got Twelve acting/being impressed by his knowledgeable Space Wife, being all "Wow, hot stuff" (clearly for Twelve, brainy is sexy - indeed, he is a man of good taste). And we've got Clara being all "Oh yeah, I'm more than just this pretty face that I already know you've taken considerable notice of."
(Meanwhile, Chopra is just standing there thinking "Don't mind me, one of my crew mates is missing and we're in the middle of a deadly situation, but do take a break to flirt outrageously in front of me, ya space married weirdos.")
One last thing I love about this scene: as Twelve walks by Clara, he walks so unnecessarily close to her, like it looks like he actually brushes her arm slightly as he goes by when there's clearly plenty of room to pass. That's a whole other flirty moment all by itself!
Twelve: *takes a deep breath*
Twelve: I-
Missy: yes, you love Clara, I know, you love Clara so much, she’s the light of your life, you love her so much, you just love Clara, I KNOW , you love Clara you fucking love Clara ok I know, I get it, YOU LOVE Clara, I GET IT.
Clara: *exists*
Twelve: 👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good shit go౦ԁ sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌shit right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good shit
What Twelve says: I had a duty of care
What Twelve means: