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There's a Fine Line Between Genius and Crazy...

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Joni. USA. Late 20s. University marketing professional. Masters degree in 19th century History. Social media enthusiast. Voracious reader. Wannabe novelist. Unapologetic nerd. Feminist. Political junkie.
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Sorry if this is a super dump question but can you explain why/how is Nora erased from the timeline?? Maybe it's just me but it doesn't make much sense and feels like she got erased just cuz it's the last episode of the season and they needed to wrap her story up somehow.

Nora’s erased because Thanos snapped.

Just kidding—I actually don’t know either. Apparently destroying an evil dagger will erase your adult child who traveled back in time from existence. Because consequences.

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I think this result is a combination of factors that have to do not only with decisions/events on The Flash, but also due to the coming Crisis on Infinite Earths.

If the major factor is Crisis, then the change in the timeline confirmed at the end of the episode — where the news story’s date changes from 2024 to 2019 — means that Nora (who was a baby in 2024) would not have been conceived before Barry disappears in the Crisis.

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Just a word: there’s a lot of contention about Oliver not immediately running to the phone to call Felicity, or out rightly running to Felicity. Not sure why. We were all told that the focus as comedy, not intense Olicity scenes and since when do the Flash writers allow for that?

I mean, we’d all love a really awkward scene where he tries to convince her that he’s not Barry and she doesn’t believe him… um, no.

What’s the point? It takes up screen time - and seriously, no one argue that this isn’t the point: it’s a TV show. IT’S EXACTLY THE POINT - away from Oliver/Barry and we’ll return to it in the next episode.

It’s lazy writing to constantly apply negativity to Oliver the way the Flash managed to last night: he can’t do wrong for doing right, he has everything against him already - but lo and behold: he’s swapped identities with Barry. He’s less surly. Less himself.

LESS OLIVER QUEEN.

The bright, funny Oliver is an Oliver influenced by Barry’s personality: a few interviews have confirmed that from minute 1, their personalities influence the other and will have lingering affects.

Oliver will learn how to see with eyes unclouded by anger, and the man has a lot of anger in him. PTSD. Trauma. Stress. It’s far from all he has, though the Flash writers love to pretend otherwise. He’ll be a grumpy puppy again after the hiatus, but maybe he’ll have caught a clue about something too.

It all would have been much funnier if it hadn’t been focused on making Oliver out to be an asshole every other minute. 

So why are people expecting logic from the Flash writers? Why, because Oliver didn’t profess his love for Felicity?

We already know he loves her.

He spends the entire episode uncomfortable, tetchy, irritated and wanting to return to normal because he doesn’t fell like himself. What does saying her name change or mean? He hasn’t done anything wrong. And he knows it: he doesn’t have to bring his wife into it, unlike Barry with Iris every other second, because Oliver doesn’t feel like he’s done anything wrong.

There’s a crumb here to pick up on. It’s a badly broken crumb that could have been handled far better, but…

Oliver, like Felicity, is so used to going it alone again. Yes, she helped him with his PTSD at the party, but when he’s in action, he didn’t need that. His first instinct isn’t to go running to his wife: it’s to fix himself.

If Felicity got hurt without him, she wouldn’t call him. Not because it slips her mind or because she doesn’t love him. It’s because she’s forgotten how to rely on him: part of their 7b SL will be to remember all that: to be inclusive once again.

What, did you think it worked like clock work with a snap of the fingers? Doesn’t anyone understand how much they’ve changed, how much they need each other but don’t remember how to get back there?

Case in point: Iris delivers a small snippet to Oliver about Felicity.

Many complain that he already knows he screwed up, and he does. But he had no idea, really, what it did to her immediately following his incarceration.

In 7.08, Felicity says ‘you left me and I had to learn how to survive’. He says ‘how many times do I need to apologise’?

He knew he’d done wrong: but he thought it was something forgivable because he didn’t think he’d had a choice. Except.

She never says, you went behind my back. Felicity never told him that it was like a betrayal, that when the FBI came for him he let them take him away from her  and she called Iris because she was so betrayed and angry.

He knew he’d hurt her. He never saw it as a betrayal.

Iris doesn’t know she’s telling Oliver, she think’s he’s Barry.

And for the first time, he doesn’t think about fixing himself: he’s thinking, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Even after what Felicity said at the end of 7.08, I guarantee that Oliver still thought everything is fine. Wait and see. hearing that, made him realise, well I’m a dumbass.

Yes, Oliver is THIS much of a pine cone. May I remind you of S3, 4, 5 etc?

It’s a very alpha male perspective, being shocked and freaked out by her carrying a gun. HE’S the protector, HE makes HER safe. She needs to be kept secure and in bubble wrap. Seeing her with a gun made him face a heck of a lot in a sort amount of time and added to his PTSD, Oliver didn’t deal very well. But he tried.

Now he’s just realised that HE’S the one who has to reach out first. He hasn’t, because: TRAUMA.

Felicity pushed him away at the end of 7.08 because: TRAUMA.

They’re not in sync right now guys, and really, what do you expect? How much do you expect either of them to be able to handle at any given time?

Not mentioning the other doesn’t mean they aren’t thinking about them. And if you take everything you see on screen as IT and not the layers in between, then why demand for more when you refuse to see more?

This episode was the Flash writers inept attempt at revealing the way he’d walled him off from others. He and Felicity have been truly alone. This is ANOTHER SHOW. Pus, if Felicity were in it, there’s no way she’d let them all pull him to pieces.

The writers HAD to let them have their fun: Oliver needed to be the blame guy, the grouchy one, the person they could 'fiddle’ with. Can’t do any of that with his wife in view.

Just wait till 7.09.

This episode teaches him another lesson: I loathed how he was unnecessarily pulled to pieces , but in one instance they had a kind of point. The way Oliver thinks has hurt the person he loves most. There are several hints, some big whoppers. It’s S3/4 of Arrow but better.

Flash writers suck. Just remember that. the only way they could reveal an Oliver Queen who needed a push in the right direction was to separate him from everyone and have him do comedy with Barry.

I mean, they actually made Iris catty and unlikeable and, once again, turned Barry into a zippy little asshole.

7.09 will be another step, this time to Felicity. The third step, will be towards regaining his identity.

Nailed it, Jess!

THIS.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

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Really, Barry, really, my man, what, you thought Oliver was going to say, “Fuck it, I know I’m married to Felicity, but damn, now I have the opportunity, so let’s jump in with Iris,” like are you serious right now, Barry? Shall we remember who was making heart eyes at a certain blonde in the past, not to mention a certain kiss with that certain blonde, Barry?! Or that it was your wife that had Oliver Queen on her list? 

This made my entire brain twitch - Oliver’s hands were clasped together so tight because nobody is believing them and Barry is like, “You thought about about touching her,” oh fuck off.

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FUCK OFF IS RIGHT.

I totally, completely agree that this scene was WEIRD.

HOWEVER...

The more I think about this episode in general, there are some things that stand out to me. There were key moments between Oliver and Barry — sometimes with just the two of them and sometimes involving others like Iris — that point to what I am assuming is one of the themes of the crossover: the need for Oliver and Barry to walk a mile in each other’s shoes and get a new perspective.

While I didn’t like this scene and I thought a couple others were a little forced, I think they all have something in common: calling out Oliver and Barry’s insecurities.

In this instance, I think Iris is one of Barry’s biggest insecurities. Especially since Iris thinks Oliver is hot.

Likewise, Oliver struggles with Barry’s lightness of attitude because he sees himself as darkness.

At the end of the day, the crossover will probably remind both Oliver and Barry of their capacities for light (Oliver) and dark (Barry), and further (for Oliver) Arrow’s theme of shades of grey.

It will also hopefully move Oliver closer to understanding how much pain he cause Felicity even though (as Kara alludes to in the episode), love is selfless.

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No show is perfect and some seasons are better than others because sometimes ideas work out great and other times they go off the rails...

The Flash is by no means my favorite show (I <3 Arrow)...but this season has been so uneven. Ralph grew on me, and the Joe/Cecile baby storyline is interesting, and so is the mystery girl. And so too have I enjoyed Caitlin’s Killer Frost journey and despite some of the Olicity-related snark (which was so stupid), I also like Barry/Iris.

But the whole Devoe storyline has been a snooze.

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Jax cried, Lily and Clarissa cried, we cried, everyone frickin' cried.

Truer words have never been written.

RIP Stein.

Edit: Except, leave my Olicity alone. Iris and Barry only shipped them through the whole fricking crossover. And it was a field wedding. It’s not like they interrupted the first wedding in the church. Geez.

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So, obviously they just revealed that Earth-X Oliver and Earth-X Kara are married...but do we think there’s more to that story?

At the beginning in the church, Earth-X Oliver was almost ridiculously concerned about her.

I’m thinking (and the last two scenes before commercial leant more evidence) that at least part of the supposedly faux Reddit spoiler might be true.

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Side Note:

I’m reasonably sure that Ralph Dibney is only on The Flash so that Microsoft can promote the Surface...

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