Civil War timeline with the help of the new footage
I have to order this for the sake of the argument rather than chronological order and it’s long as fuck so sorry if it’s confusing.
To start: in the BTS footage of Bucky fighting Steve and later shooting Tony you can see Black Panther’s claw rips in his left sleeve:
Also visible here in the Super Bowl TV spot, evidently done through the jacket:
Here’s when it happens, from the second trailer (please also note Seb’s face lol):
Bucky has a backpack in the tunnel scene with Black Panther but not in this one.
TO THE POINT: no rips here when Steve helps Bucky escape from this apartment building (in Germany, based on the flag on the Police uniforms), so it is BEFORE the tunnel and fight/shooting scene:
Also, to show that Bucky’s shirt isn’t just generally full of holes lol:
ALSO of note here, same wallpaper as the scene from the 2nd trailer where Steve says “This doesn’t have to end in a fight, Tony.” But when he says “Tony” it cuts to a totally different scene and the audio doesn’t sound smooth. I doubt Tony’s there at all. Maybe he’s talking to Bucky? This is Bucky’s apartment in Germany?
MAIN POINT, Steve and Bucky have encountered each other BEFORE the scene where they fight and Bucky shoots Tony, at least in the scene when he helps him escape the apartment in Germany. I would also suggest the tunnel scene is before the fight scene based on Bucky not having his jacket and backpack anymore (more evidence below.) Either way, people have been speculating that Bucky has been reprogrammed as the Winter soldier when he fights Steve and shoots Tony, and it happens between encounters with Steve. So how does someone get to him to reprogram him?
Back to the tunnel scene, War Machine is there, which suggests Tony’s involvement (hold onto that thought):
FURTHERMORE, based on Steve’s jacket+shirt situation:
Left side is the fight with Bucky, right side is when he hands over the shield and Everett Ross and Sharon Carter are there (so the CIA?), which I would suggest is the consequence of the tunnel scene, especially since T’challa is there too:
As to what happens to Bucky, from Empire magazine: “The Winter Soldier is taken away in shackles for ‘psychological evaluation’ while Steve meets with General Ross.” (The scene we have of Steve meeting General Ross has him in different clothing, but I doubt it’s the only one.)
Reports of the D23 footage (and a leaked photo) show Bucky distressed in a glass box/cage.
So, Tony’s involvement in the situation:
Steve’s wearing the aforementioned outfit and Tony is wearing the same ensemble from Bucky trying to shoot him.
Bucky gets reprogrammed somehow during the ‘Psychological evaluation’. But by who? Hydra still inside the government? The government accidentally says some reset code? Sleeper programming? SPUTNIK???
Anyway, Bucky then attacks Steve and Tony. The government tries to take Bucky away in the Helicopter, probably to this helicopter-only access prison we saw (that Tony’s shown at, btw):
Steve stops it, losing his jacket and getting his shirt dirty here:
Note the claw marks on Bucky’s sleeve again.
So Steve and Sam rescue Bucky from the helicopter and go on the run. They trap Bucky in the vice themselves to ensure he’s safe for them to be around. That’s why Steve asks if Bucky remembers him when they’ve already interacted, to make sure he’s kicked the recent reprogramming.
So the “Buck, do you remember me?” scene is NOT Steve and Bucky’s first encounter in the movie, Mackie has said the scene is about halfway through the movie. Bucky’s not getting his jacket and backpack back after this and Steve’s not going to wash his shirt, hence the tunnel scene being before the Steve and Bucky fight scene, and every scene featuring Bucky in a jacket and stuff being BEFORE this one, which previously seemed like it might be Bucky’s first appearance in the movie.
From here on is when Bucky changes to his new tac gear and gets a gun etc., and everyone starts actually beating the shit out of each other instead of talking in meeting rooms because Steve has explicitly gone against the government.
I swear this is like 80% solid but it’s hard to keep it clear over such a long argument.
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