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ELEMENT OF SURPRISE- 💥

Even more au doodles because I have way too much free time.

This time around 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 Anti-Power Couple Au 🎉🎉🎉🎉 (by @starry-blue-echoes)

I think my Hol Horse bias is showing-

Anyway cute Holpol nonsense YIPPEEEE (click for better quality)

I simultaneously love and hate the design I made for him. Cause on one hand I think he looks cool as hell but on the other he has so many details the amount of times I forgot his ear piercing/braid/stubble/bullet necklace/strings on his hat/wedding ring/which side the wrist bands went on is low-key ridiculous and completely my own fault 💀/silly

These are the best hands I've ever drawn in my life ngl.

Fun fact: "Mon petit chou" with no context means "my little cabbage" when directly translated to English. Because you know if Polnareff is gonna call Hol a French pet name it's gonna be something simultaneously rly sweet in French but wack in English NSNDNNDD

There's more context than that behind why "my little cabbage" is considered a French term of endearment but that's an info dump for another day 😭

I don't have much to say for this one other than the doddle of one of the Sex Pistols holding Emperor is one of my favorite things and I'm using it as a reaction image now.

HOLPOL WEDDING

I wish I could have done more with their outfits but I just didn't have the time to design anything rly unique 😭.

I genuinely hope the random huge drops of fanart aren't overwhelming or anything for ya- I just get in a flow of doin em and don't realize how much I've done until I've ran out of scenarios to draw :') wish ya the best ✌️/gen

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I WILL JAVE YOU KNOW IM STIMNG WAY TO MUCH TO TYPE RIGTHA WEHJZGSBFJWHAEBGJKBGFJKE

THEY'RE SO FUCKING BE A UT I FU L AND THE COLORS AND THE SQUAD AND THE HGS AND KISSES AND THE W E D D I NG RINGS AND OUT IF TS

holy shit this is absolutel incredible, I'm grinning like ana bsolute madman right now this has 100% made my day it's GORGOUS and you're now getting my exact thoughts on every single picture because I'm so mentally ill about this

first off, I'm in LOVE with Hol's design. You've blended his origional deisgn so well with the new elements and I'm positively smitten with the coat you gave him, and I can only guess you somehow managed to make your way into my draft notes because I was also thinking of giving him a coat. All the details are so pretty and nice and go together, and I went just a little more insane when I realized you gave him one of Pol's wrist bands

anD WITH THE SECOND HO FUCKING BOY IT? IS SO SOFT??? AND WHOLESOME?????? THE WAY THEY'RE HOLDING EACHOTHER???????? Not to mention the R I N G S and the way their pinkies are linked, he's just his silly little cabbage and also that's canon now as well, and I'm getting cavities just looking at it. And ofc, the beautiful addition of bruabba in the bottom <3

third off FUCK YEAH THAT'S HIS DAUGHTER :DDDDD Trish looks gorous as always <3 and the doodles with the Pistols are also perfect, they're just silly little guys who Hol probably gets attached to, and if he wants to lend them the Emperor well then who's he to stop them from causing insanity. And erjbvsjrbv the nicotine thing with Bucciarati is hilarious, and the collection of everybody is adorable

AND THE FUCKING. O U GH. THE WEDDING CLOTHES. JRBGEJABGEBGV R A W GH IM PUTTING THEM IN MY MOUTH AND BITTING THEM, I WANT TO EAT YOUR ART STYLE IT'S SO PRETTY AND HAPPY AND WHOLESOME AND THEY FUCKING LOVE EACHOTHER AND O U G H

okay. I'm normal now :> I hope your day is as good as mine has become upon seeing this art :>

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Anonymous asked:

Top five best (or worst, or both, you decide) localized stand names

Consider: I do ✨both✨

first, my favorites

1) Filthy Acts At A Reasonable Price (Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep), because just. C'mon, how can I not absolutely adore it

2) Worse Company (Bad Company), because it too is hilarous

3) Eulogy (Epitaph (the future thing on King Crimson's head)), because tbh that's a really bad ass name to give something that can predict the future

4) Pale Snake (Whitesnake), because it has the same badass energy but a little to the left

5) Reverb, because that's honestly a really cool name for a Stand by itself

as for the worst:

1) Limp Viscuit (Limp Bizkit) because they STOLE Flacid Pancake

2) Six Bullets (Sex Pistols), they took the name and made it infinitely more boring

3) Spicey Lady (Spice Girl)....... I just don't like the vibes

4) Green Tea (Green Day) it just....... really doesn't fit the vibe

5) and tied for last place are Pole Jam (Pearl Jam) and Smack (Kiss) because they're just. Weird

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Part 5: Pinto Aureo/Golden Wing 🐞 (1/3)

- might have stolen @/toytle’s fugo and trish/diavolo concepts my bad

- this part takes place a little bit after twilight would become ruler

- Morning Glory already knows how to heal cause of hamon (he doesn’t actually know it’s hamon though)

- poor Glory got thrown out after turning gold cause his parents didn’t recognize him at all :(

- i made Guido flightless because i liked his design too much to make him not a griffin, but at the same time i liked the idea of Divebomb being the team’s sole eye in the sky. plus it’s a lot easier to shoot arrows with digits than hooves

- not a whole lot else to say atm, stay tuned for more

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Anonymous asked:

I've had this idea marinating for a while please consider this: Assassin Mista AU!

Basically, Bucciarati wasn't the only one that Mista impressed with his headline stunt pre-canon. When he showed up to bust the kid out of prison, Bruno was expecting legal questions, not for the prison to tell him that Guido Mista didn't legally exist. Strange, as he'd made the news literally a month ago, but Bruno had already drained enough money from Polpo to get this far and couldn't risk further research, so he had to let the matter go.

So what happened to him?

Instead of being dragged into Passione, Mista was dragged into an organisation of Stand assassins! They function as almost a social network - you order a hit and submit your future victim's name, age, picture and last known location, and the organisation sends it to their hitmen to finish the job.

They offered Mista his freedom: they could erase his existence entirely, and work to pay back their investment at a steep interest, or he could rot in prison for the rest of his life. Not much of a choice, but at least he could chose what jobs to take, avoiding children and mothers as much as possible? It wasn't much - the pay was pitiful and the lifestyle worse, but Mista survived. Maybe not lived, but survived.

(side note, I don't know how different the pistols would be in this Au, maybe even more chaotic than canon, since he doesn't have the Bucci gang for comfort anymore!)

I can (and probably will) elaborate on how exactly this intersects with cannon, but long story short, EITHER Diavolo always planned to finish off the Bucci Gang after they delivered Trish to cover his tracks and couldn't send his usual hitman squad after them (for obvious reasons) so he just applied for outside help OR la Squadra hunted down the execution squad for murdering Gelato and Sorbet after declaring themselves traitors, and it forced his hand to extend his reach outside Passione.

Either way, even though it goes against so many of his personal self-imposed morals, the amount of Lira on offer is more than enough to pay off his debt and then some, so how can Mista pass this opportunity up?

Don't worry though! He still ends up joining the gang, although it takes a ruined opera, several explosions, a kidnapping, a mini stand battle and a phone call to do it! (not necessarily in that order)

OOOOOOOOOOOO ANGST THE GUN BOI 👀👀👀👀👀👀

I love the idea of Mista being an assassin. There's so much room for angst and pain and I adore it

for the Pistols, what if while they aren't much different from canon, Mista relies on them WAAAAAY more for emotional support. He talks to them regularly, more than he does Actual People, and sees them as fully separate beings. He lets the Pistols do what they please and doesn't even try to make them do things they don't want because excising the control he has over them makes him sick to his stomach. The Pistols also help him keep a grip on the morals he has left and get very vocal if he starts to toe the line

the Pistols both drive him up a wall and keep him sane. It's because of them he hasn't gone spiralling into a dark hole which he'd never be able to return from

and if I may bring another possibility for how Mista ends up tying into canon: what if he ends up befriending La Squadra and gets involved that way

his line of work meant he didn't have many friends. Everyone was competition, and if two assassins just to happened to be aiming for the same job? Well, it wasn't friendly fire if you aren't allies

but well..... Mista's on Passione territory. It was only a matter of time before he ended up crossing paths

and maybe at first they're enemies. It's just bad blood and insults every time they meet, but their ties to their respective organisations prevent them from Dealing with the opposition out of fear of retaliation. Slowly, this leads to a tolerance of each other, maybe a silent acknowledgment when passing in the street, which then leads to coexistence and nothing more than annoyed words when they take the same jobs

but then this slowly opens avenues for partnerships. More dangerous jobs become possible, there have allies outside their immediate circle to call on, the Squadra get access to more information and jobs outside of Passione work, Mista gets a place to crash on the nights he can't afford rent and a warm meal when he doesn't have time to cook

for the first time in nearly a year, Mista finally gets to feel companionship from another human again

but of course....... then Sorbet and Gelato are killed

and Mista was tired. Tired of killing, tired of getting hurt, tired of awful living conditions, tired of making it to the next day by the skin of his teeth

so when the Squadra ask him if he'd like to join them in overthrowing the Boss, for the first time since he'd gotten them Mista ignores the Pistols warnings and goes in

this is his last job, he thinks. After they take over Passione, he'll be able to pay off his debts and live a simple, quiet life far away from anyone or anything that could ever hurt him

it's either that, or die trying

(what he wasn't expecting was for everything to go sideways and have a total of Two(2) found families at the end of it all and for a man with blue eyes and black hair to recognise him)

(ofc this is just a suggestion my brain ran away with, your idea for how canon ties in is VERY tasty as well)

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Another AU idea (I'm sorry for sending so many my mind won't leave me alone): Under the effects of Silver Chariot Requiem, if someone dies it's the owner of the body who perishes instead of the soul inhabiting it. As a result, Giorno dies, Narancia goes back into his own body... and since Narancia is the only one in his own body once SCR is defeated, he's the only one who doesn't lose consciousness. And, well... what better way to keep the Arrow out of the boss's hands than using it on himself? (Also Polnareff just barely lives because I said so.)

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O U G H

if I may add an even angstier piece to it....... what if it wasn't immediate. Like, Narancia "dies," but Giorno finds that he can't swap himself back into his own body, so he sticks around in Narancia's. The rest of the fight plays out as normal...... until SCR is defeated and the swap back happens

Narancia has no idea what's going on. He died. He felt it. Felt the stabbing of the metal crush any hopes at a happy ending, how everything literally flashed before his eyes, how he died before he even fully realised what was happening

and then the next thing he knows, the sun has risen, Diavolo is in front of his eyes and there is an arrow grasped in his hands

I'll admit, I'm not fully sure what exactly to make Aerosmith Requiem's ability be. I do want to keep it something with a plane theme and it would need to be something with a bit of Reality Fuckery, but that's kinda all I got

but this...... this is going to CRUSH Narancia. That because of him, because of his actions and how he let himself get caught off guard, Giorno is the one who had to pay for it. How he barely got to know Giorno, how the younger boy had saved their lives countless times, and in the end this was how he was repaid for his efforts

........you know what....... for a bit of extra pain....... *bonks this with Supernova Vibes* everyone but Giorno survives :3

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YES I LOVE THIS

okay this scenario but everyone surviving except giorno includes Golden experience

For whatever reason when Gio dies Gold remains. A lone stand without a user. A reflection without a soul.

Gold felt as gio died as their connection with him was broke. It wasnt quick. Gio died cruelly slow in Their opinion, but still Gold wasnt able to do anything.

So was do they do. With out a user without a purpose. They follow Narancia. Follow the whole gang actually but especially him.

When the gang first saw gold they felt hope. They thought that meant Giorno, the newest member on thier team may still be alive. But they learned that wasnt the case. Narancia at first though gold was haunting him for letting Giorno die, that the stand blamed him as much as he blamed himself.

But that wasnt the case. Gold never blamed narancia, never blamed any of them. Yes they felt bitter that everyone Except their child survived. But they know gio was stubborn, he had a goal a dream that he would die for. That Golden experience would of died for. Besides they had failed to protect thier own child so many times before, so why should they blame others.

No they didnt follow them to torment them. Quite the opposite actually. Gold followed them to protect them. To protect the people their child care so much for that they died for them. Gold didnt have any other purpose anyway.

Eventually the gang figure out gold cares for them. They cant really control the stand but it protects them and heals them after fights, its not as creative as it used to be but its still saved thier lives from time to time. Golds pay extra attention to narancia like its trying to make up for the user they lost by protecting this one

Y E S S S S S S S S S S S S S 

oh god just. In Giorno's last moments as he feels his soul return to a dying, dying, dead body, he genuinely feels afraid. He's 15 years old and so very far away from anyone he could trust. He can feel Gold's energy around him, desperately trying to keep him awake and alive, but it's no use. You can't heal something that's already dead

and what if that's how to Gang finds him. They'd bolted back to the Colosseum upon realising Narancia was alive, and what they find is Gold holding its User close. Its energy pulses and there's not a single scratch on Giorno's body...... but he never stirs. Never opens his eyes, never makes a sound, never so much as breathes

Giorno is dead, and they can't help but feel responsible

and BIG yes to everything with Gold. It's upset its User is now dead, and as you mentioned slightly bitter about it, but it also owes the Bucci Gang for what they've done. They cared for its User, wanted him to stay healthy and living, and in the end they were the ones to avenge his death. That thanks to them, the monster who killed him won't be able to kill any more. Giorno wanted them alive, so it's only natural for it to fulfil those last wishes for as long as it can

so it follows them. It heals every injury they have until they're without a single blemish, and continues to do so at every possible opportunity. It takes a lot of getting used to, especially with what Gold essentially symbolises. Narancia takes it the worst and practically flees from the Stand sometimes, but slowly as time goes on and they heal, Gold's starts to hurt a bit less

and more with Narancia, I'd imagine Gold's almost obsessive care of him also stems from some of the guilt Gold has about not being able to heal him. How the first time it wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough or strong enough and Narancia "died" because of it, taking its User's body with him. How its failure to save Narancia directly resulted in failing to save its User

also I don't have anything to add onto it because you brought up every possible perfect idea, but I am going INSANE (/pos) about Gold being like the gang's Weird Cat. Every single thing you brought up is being microwaved in my brain and just. YES

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my brain was set on cringe mode again today 🤡

so actor au BUT stands are an actual thing that's real but the rest are fictional. The characters are fictional, the story is fictional too, while stands are a thing.

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FHDBFHDBFHDBF

Okay so I’m seeing two possibilities for how that could go for actors:

One, they just write in the actor’s Stand as being the characters and slightly change the performance of the ability as needed to make it line up with the plot/character better. Like, say a Stand has the ability to manipulate weight, they instead portray it as just being able to make things heavier

Or Two, Stand Props and makeup are now a thing and they use special affects to make it look like it’s doing a different thing entirely

Also, so many different kinds of Stand would have it absolutely MADE in the special affects/theater tech and crew industry

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Ooh, I have some ideas for actors' stands that could mimic canon stands in some way or another (otherwise known as "we have *stand* at home".)

Echoes: Shapeshifting, both itself and objects around it.

The Hand: Folding.

Kiss: Illusory copies.

The Emperor: The gun isn't a stand. The bullets, however...

Purple Haze: The gas causes mild nausea.

Spice Girl: Elasticity instead of general softness

RHCP: Electricity is less powerful. Not actually Akira's stand, but they get along (to the dismay of everyone.)

Jotaro's stand: Not actually Star Platinum. It changes wind currents. Very useful for 'stand jumps' and also the only reason the Enya fight ended the way it did. Joot might also have been on effects duty outside of parts 3-6.

FGBTYHGTDBDT OH I LOVE THAT-

I had another idea for Purple Haze if you will: what if it's just. Colored smokescreens. It can control the color and how thick the smoke is with minimal affects to those who breathe it in

Love Deluxe actually has a manifestation and has an ability along the lines of "string manipulation" which works great for Yukako

there are actually LOADS more Sex Pistols and they like to swap out between scenes for shits and giggles

Manhattan Transfer actually has an ability, being essentially a magic key ring

Sex Pistols was originally manifested for like. An assault rifle. There are multiple bloopers of #4 deciding to jump out and "scare" Mista.

Fugo joins the 'outside-of-part special effects crew' gang. He and Jotaro work very well together.

YESSSSSSSSSS

the Pistols are just as chaotic and insane as they act in the show and they’re not ashamed of it, and Mister sloppy begins to adopt and get attached to them

and just. OUGH I love the mental image of Jotaro and Fugo working together. With Not-Star’s wind and Haze’s Smoke, they’re single handedly responsible for like. 95% of every Colored Magic Cloud affect in the entire show. Not-Star's wind is perfect for shaping and making them move just right, and Fugo's smoke is perfect for making any misty smoke they could ever need

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my brain was set on cringe mode again today 🤡

so actor au BUT stands are an actual thing that's real but the rest are fictional. The characters are fictional, the story is fictional too, while stands are a thing.

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FHDBFHDBFHDBF

Okay so I’m seeing two possibilities for how that could go for actors:

One, they just write in the actor’s Stand as being the characters and slightly change the performance of the ability as needed to make it line up with the plot/character better. Like, say a Stand has the ability to manipulate weight, they instead portray it as just being able to make things heavier

Or Two, Stand Props and makeup are now a thing and they use special affects to make it look like it’s doing a different thing entirely

Also, so many different kinds of Stand would have it absolutely MADE in the special affects/theater tech and crew industry

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ailingwriter

Ooh, I have some ideas for actors' stands that could mimic canon stands in some way or another (otherwise known as "we have *stand* at home".)

Echoes: Shapeshifting, both itself and objects around it.

The Hand: Folding.

Kiss: Illusory copies.

The Emperor: The gun isn't a stand. The bullets, however...

Purple Haze: The gas causes mild nausea.

Spice Girl: Elasticity instead of general softness

RHCP: Electricity is less powerful. Not actually Akira's stand, but they get along (to the dismay of everyone.)

Jotaro's stand: Not actually Star Platinum. It changes wind currents. Very useful for 'stand jumps' and also the only reason the Enya fight ended the way it did. Joot might also have been on effects duty outside of parts 3-6.

FGBTYHGTDBDT OH I LOVE THAT-

I had another idea for Purple Haze if you will: what if it's just. Colored smokescreens. It can control the color and how thick the smoke is with minimal affects to those who breathe it in

Love Deluxe actually has a manifestation and has an ability along the lines of "string manipulation" which works great for Yukako

there are actually LOADS more Sex Pistols and they like to swap out between scenes for shits and giggles

Manhattan Transfer actually has an ability, being essentially a magic key ring

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Anonymous asked:

Hol Horse x Polnareff

I didn't know that existed but I think it's hilarious because it is the ultimate Sword VS Gun couple who also can't go five steps without something happening to them

you know what a power couple is? yeah they're the opposite of that. They're both complete disasters and no one's sure how they haven't accidentally died and/or killed each other yet, least of all them

also now I have the mental image of the two somehow managing to keep a good relationship for years and come Part 5 Hol Horse just shows up and fucking. Shoots Diavlo through the skull simply because Diavlo didn't know the gun was a Stand and didn't make King Crimson move

...........fuck, shit wait now I'm actually starting to think of the logistics of this hold on-

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FUCK IT, THIS IS THE FINAL PUSH I'M DOING IT

AU WHERE HOL HORSE AND POLNAREFF END UP MEETING POST STARDUST AND FALL IN LOVE BECAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT /lh

Hol Horse started his investigation into his husband's disappearance a bit under a year after it happened. There was a lot of preparation needed, but since Hol wasn't with the Foundation and had been doing bounty work for a few years prior to All This, it was much easier for him to slip in than say someone who worked for the Foundation

maybe by the time canon rolls around he managed to get an in with Passione, maybe via the Bucci Gang? Or maybe he becomes That One Hitman Who's Not Actually A Part Of Passione But Just Takes A Lot Of Jobs From Them

heck, maybe he even ends up getting involved with Trish. I'm thinking him possibly being with Pericolo and assigned to protect her before they can hand her off to the Bucci Gang only then he ends up kinda. Sticking around

also what if people don't actually know his Stand ability is GUN. They know he has a Stand, but no one quite knows what it is or what it does. This was a safety measure on Hol Horse’s part, since The Emperor is almost useless if there isn’t a target he can see and that weakness is pretty obvious once you know what the Stand is. There are a bunch of theories too, ranging from some kind of Storage Stand to an Object Manipulation Stand to a Stand without a form. Why? Because everyone overthinks it and doesn't stop to think "hey maybe his Stand is Just A Gun."

Mista both idolizes and hates Hol. On one hand, Another Guy Who Uses A Gun To Go Against Stands And WINS, but on the other every time he sees The Emperor the gun expert in him dies a little bit more because What In The Every Love FUCK Is That Abomination Of A Firearm

I like to imagine that at one point there's a moment when Hol Horse has The Emperor pointed directly at King Crimson when Diavlo's hiding around a corner and he's surprisingly serious but also still kinda scared shitless so he's ever so slightly shaking, and he just asks Diavlo what happened to a man named Jean Pierre Polnareff

and when he gets his answer, when he learns this monster killed his husband, he pulls the trigger without hesitation

and Diavlo, in a moment of sheer Not Realizing The Danger He Was In, gets shot full of Stand Lead because he didn't realize the Stand was the Gun and thus was capable of harming Stands, and gets reduced to a chunky med mush

(also as a treat Hol and Pol adopt Trish. Just because I think she deserves some Gun Sword Dads as a treat

There's a certain hilarious imagery about Hol in Stand Battles with his gang and enemy Stand Users thinking he's using an actual nerf gun but from an onlooker's perspective he's just... fingergunning

And none of them ever find out until later

Also there's this really sweet dialogue in Eyes Of Heaven between Hol and Trish if you pit them against each other. Trish gets worried that Passione sent Hol after her. If he wins the fight, he would try to calm her down and says that while he doesn't understand what's going on, he wants to hear her out and help her and I just love that so so much

I can 100% see him being very comforting towards Trish and giving her distractions when she needs one or just being there to listen when she wants to talk. He'd very likely end up adopting her after this whole fiasco, especially after knowing how awful Diavolo is to her. He and Polnareff can share custody with Bruno.

Ooooooo what if he was the one who escorted Trish to the Boss instead of Bruno? Especially since he also desperately needs answers to where his husband is. He gets to go since he's the closest to Trish.

Giorno and Bruno will very likely not let him in on their plan to take down the Boss since Hol really cares about Trish and they wouldn't know Diavolo's intentions for her at that point. But Giorno could plant a ladybug on Hol, and Bruno might end up following them underground through his zipper portals, with Giorno directing him where to move.

Just... imagine them both in the elevator with Trish holding Hol's hand and suddenly she's gone except for the hand he was holding and a horrified Hol puts everything together and immediately goes after them. This could be where he finally gets answers about Polnareff. Maybe Diavolo gets the upper hand initially but Bruno suddenly pops up from under the floor and assists them in the fight.

Gosh imagine his reunion with Pol though... XDD maybe they still end up searching for Diavolo's identity and Polnareff contacts them through the laptop and Hol suddenly blows up because HE KNOWS THAT VOICE FROM ANYWHERE JEAN IS THAT REALLY YOU WHAT THE FU-

Slightly unrelated but it's so funny to think about how confused Giorno is going to be. First he gets hated on by Abbacchio for no reason, that's fine, he can deal with that, Abbacchio is generally pretty cold to everyone. But then there's this friendly outgoing cowboy who seems really terrified of him for some reason?? What's he doing wrong and how can he fix it please-

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

You got the vibe for the gun thing perfectly. I kinda wanted to play with the possible weaknesses of being a Stand User On A Team Of Only Stand Users. None of them can tell Hol's gun is the Stand because they assume it's just a normal gun. If anything, in the world they live in such a simple, non-elaborate looking Stand would be weird

Giorno is just. So Lost on why this powerful adult hitman is afraid of him. He's pretty sure he's never met the man before, and even if he had, what could he have done to make him this unseasy? It's generally pretty confusing for everyone who isn't Hol Horse, but he's sure as hell not explaining things so-

As for how Hol finds out...... maybe he ends up seeing Giorno's wallet picture? That's kinda the only explanation I can come up with because Hol would've gone undercover in Italy before they figured out who Giorno was

I didn't know that bit of dialog existed in EoH but I LOVE IT and it's just furthering my Dad Horse agenda. Hol Horse really wasn't sure what he was expecting when he was hired as an escort, after all he usually does assassinations or tracking jobs, but this 15 year old girl was not it. While Hol Horse is definitely terrified of the Boss, he also does what he can to make Trish more comfortable. And not with stuff like expensive food and clothes and stuff, I mean by just.... being there. Talking to her. Treating her like a kid who just lost her mom instead of the daughter of this all powerful crime boss who could make him disappear with a single word

and I ADORE the idea of Hol Horse being the one to go up the tower instead. Giorno and Bucciarati are definitely hesitant, however there isn't a whole lot they can say to stop it without being suspicious because Hol was hired by the Boss himself to do this job. He clearly had a reason for picking the man, so unfortunately they have to let that one go. Plus, Trish flat out refused to go without him, and she seems very willing to make things difficult

so they do, and it's...... fine. Her anxiety climbs with the elevator and it's only Hol Horse's comforting presence that keeps her grounded. And she starts thinking. Her father had apparently hired Hol Horse to bring her here but….. then what? Would he just leave? Maybe…… maybe if she asked nicely, she could convince her father to hire him again. No, wait that would force him to be there, she didn’t want that. She knew first hand what it was like being dragged places you didn’t want, so she couldn’t-

but then everything stops

her arm hurts

she’s not in the elevator anymore

But back with Hol Horse he is freaking the FUCK out. Because this is familiar. The shift in the air, like a record player hitching, is so terrifyingly familiar and even though it’s been decades since Egypt, it wasn't something to be forgotten easily. It’s different from Dio’s ability but similar enough that Hol Horse knows he isn’t going to win this in a fair fight

However…… well Hol Horse had never been one for a “fair fight”

Diavlo doesn’t know The Emperor’s ability. That is the one and only leg up he has in this situation, and the second he reveals his hand it’s over, for him and Trish. He cannot afford to screw this up. Bucciarati's arrival helps give him another edge and a bit more time. With the Boss not paying as much attention to him, and combined with letting some of his fear slip through to really sell it, it lets him aim The Emperor directly at King Crimson with the User being none the wiser to his actual ability

and……. he couldn’t help it. He had to ask. This was a kill or be killed fight, and no matter which happened he wouldn’t be able to get answers when it was over

Learning Polnareff’s fate…….. it hurts. It hurts so goddamn much. Because of the lives they lived, as a hitman, as a Foundation Worker, as Stand Users, death was always a possibility. From the second Hol Horse stepped into his line of work and the second Polnareff sought revenge, they both knew that there was always going to be a chance that one day one of them wouldn't be coming home

but despite knowing the possibility, it hadn't prepared Hol for the crushing and burning grief that would follow in its wake, and suddenly he understands with crystal clarity Polnareff's vengeance all those years ago

Trish ends up being the one to snap him out of his murderous rage, but by that point Diavlo is barely more than a bloody mush on the stone. He kinda falls apart too when the anger settles and the grief hits, and it's just....... painful to watch honestly. They may not know exactly what's going through Hol's head, but it's clear that whoever this "Polnareff" guy was was really important to him

and after this Hol Horse kinda just..... sticks around after that. Without Pol, he didn't have a whole lot to go back to, and honestly going back to their shared home right now..... the grief was too fresh. He splits his time between body guarding Trish and the Gang and planning Polnareff's funeral. It was going to be a small thing, pretty much just him, Jotaro and Joseph, plus a few Foundation workers he'd been friends with. For as outgoing as the guy was, he didn't have many close non-work friends

but then of course comes the reveal that It Turned Out Polnareff Was Not In Fact Dead

so it's been a handful of weeks since they killed Diavlo, and since then they've been doing a pretty good job at taking over. However, a little side project of Fugo and Abbacchio's has been trying to figure out the Boss's identity and what his Stand did. There's no real urgency in the matter, but I mean who wouldn't want to find the answer to Passione's greatest mystery

this naturally gets Polnareff's attention, so he reaches out to them. He doesn't explain much over the call except for inviting them to the Colosseum, and unfortunately the two aren't able to explain that the guy's already dead. They accept because....... yeah they're really curious as to what this arrow is that could've beaten the Boss's Stand, since that implies not only does this guy have access to something powerful but also he knew what the Boss's ability was

so they go, meet up, get answers, and when they're fully sure this guy isn't secretly dangerous and planning to kill them they drop the bomb on Polnareff that Diavlo's been dead for almost three weeks now

yeah to say Polnareff's shocked is an understatement. And after the two clarify they weren't the ones to do it, they end up name dropping Hol Horse as the one to have done the deed...... at which Polnareff asks if he could possibly meet the guy. They're a bit suspicious, but after a quick check in with the Gang they get the okay to bring him to a meet up spot

and when Hol and Pol first see each other it's just. Dead silence for several seconds before Hol fucking bolts and nearly knocks Polnareff's wheelchair over with the force of his hug and follow up kiss

it's at this point Hol Horse finally reveals his marital status and everyone collectively loses their shit

Y E A H <333333

you forgot about Beach Boy, but even still although it's a fishing rod it still has some rather obvious Magic Things, like how the hook and line can go through solid objects and float around, plus the glowing line and bright colors. Your point still stands tho, since while the Emperor is weird looking it's not exactly Stand weird. The issues with the gun are only really obvious to people who are familiar with guns (see: Mista) and otherwise nobody would look twice

Hol Horse is a bit salty he can't do any of his cool tricks and mourns the loss, but it's a small price to pay. In the months spent undercover he has soooooo many ideas for new tricks to try out when things are safer

but also y e a h. I'm rotating Hol and his character growth since Stardust so hard in this AU and nobody can stop me. Just. Over the years him growing to love and value Polnareff and their love. How he doesn't need what they have but wants it, and when faced with the possibility of losing it he realizes he's willing to fight to keep it. That he's willing to throw it all away if it means there's even a chance Pol is still alive

but also on a much more humorous note, Hol Horse becomes Mista's weird Guncle. They bicker back and forth almost constantly and the Pistols are always pranking him, but at the same time if anything happened to the other they'd probably go on a warpath

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Anonymous asked:

Hol Horse x Polnareff

I didn't know that existed but I think it's hilarious because it is the ultimate Sword VS Gun couple who also can't go five steps without something happening to them

you know what a power couple is? yeah they're the opposite of that. They're both complete disasters and no one's sure how they haven't accidentally died and/or killed each other yet, least of all them

also now I have the mental image of the two somehow managing to keep a good relationship for years and come Part 5 Hol Horse just shows up and fucking. Shoots Diavlo through the skull simply because Diavlo didn't know the gun was a Stand and didn't make King Crimson move

...........fuck, shit wait now I'm actually starting to think of the logistics of this hold on-

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Hol Horse joins the mafia to avenge his hubby and he meets this kid who reminds him a lot of his old boss and oh wait oh shit oh fuck—

EXACTLY

YOU TWO NOW UNDERSTAND THE CRISIS I’VE BEEN PUT UNDER

because just. hhhhhhhhh the POTENTIAL FOR IT THOUGH-

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mobpsycho100

THEY HAVE GUNS IN JJBA??? I THOUGHT THEY JUST HAD MAGIC SHOUNEN POWERS TF NOBODY TOLD ME THEY HAD GUNS

sex pistols.

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neoflect

jude is wrong. his magic shounen power is not a gun. its literally a normal gun that you can buy anywhere. the bullets are also normal bullets. his magic shounen power is sex pistols which are the small bullet shaped people who shoot his bullets for him. youre thinking of hol horse, who is a different jojo character, whose magic shounen power is a gun.

the more i learn the less i understand

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Ok so hear me out, villain (angationist) Jotaro. I can't get this thought out of my head. A Jojo Discord server I'm in had a whole ass debate about scenarios for this during an alternate stone ocean.

Scenario 1: Jotaro after years of stand bull shimata(sh*t) is fed up with stands and seeks to rid the world of stands and their users.

Scenario 2: Aims to achieve Star Platinum Over Heaven to change his past and that of his bloodline.

Scenario 3: Jotaro sides with Pucci but it's a ploy to achieve his own goals.

Scenario 4: Ropes his entire family into siding with him on a scenario 1 esque plan.

As you can see, that night sure was productive. What do you think of these? How would u rank them? What's your favorite?

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Okay it’s not quite what you asked, but this made my brain ZOOM with a possible AU idea

what if at some point prior to Part 6, Jolyne dies. Maybe one of Jotaro’s enemies found and killed her, maybe it was a complete accident, but bottom line is she’s dead

And Jotaro…….. just fucking snaps

He’s angry, he’s grieving, and after years and years of trying to outrun his trauma and fears everything comes crashing down all at once. Every fight, every death, every ally he made along the way who got hurt, the countless innocents who’d gotten caught in the crossfire, EVERYTHING all at once and at the worst possible moment

He doesn’t want this. He never wanted this, not when he was 17 and in that jail cell, not when he killed Dio, not when he went to Morioh and especially not right now

……and then he remembers the book he’d found in Dio’s mansion. About Attaining Heaven and recreating the world to be perfect

At the time he’d brushed it off as the ramblings of an insane megalomaniac

but now that’s he’s a bit less sound of mind…… it seems like the perfect option

Part 6 goes……. pretty much COMPLETELY differently. With Jolyne dead, Jotaro “on” Pucci’s side and her friends not even really together, there’s functionally nobody standing in their way since nobody even knows there’s any danger to begin with. After all, Jotaro is still incredibly intelligent and knows better than to make needless enemies. He has no desire for anymore bloodshed amongst his family, so he’s going to take every possible precaution necessary to keep them out of the loop

And what if his end goal is a mix of Options 1 and 2. To erase any and every Stand from existence, leaving their Users as normal people and ensuring his family never had to suffer their fates. And he is not exempt from this, his plans include getting rid of Star as well. He has no desire to rule or lead, he just wants this nightmare to be done and over

Now, I don’t know too much about EoH(I’m planning on watching a cutscene complication when I finish Jojolion), but my base knowledge is that Someone(maybe Dio?) is trying to fuck with the universe and all the Jojo’s across the timeline end up meeting and working together

So what if this evil Jotaro ends up traveling back in time as well to various point. After all, he can already mess with time and the Universe, why not go back far enough to save his friend’s lives……. but then things get a bit messy and he accidentally starts dragging people from all around the timeline and it becomes a whole mess

and for some added fun, what if they don’t know it’s Jotaro at first. They just think it’s some new evil Stand User trying to stir shit up again and are prepared to deal with him

However……. eventually they notice there’s something different about their enemy. Because again, Jotaro doesn’t want to kill anyone. He just wants them all to be safe and happy and normal and is ready to tear the universe apart to accomplish that

I’d imagine he almost crumbles apart when he sees Jolyne for the first time. She’s grown up to be big and strong and the hole in his heart for her aches at the ferocity she fights him with, but he’d rather her be alive and despise him than dead dead dead the ground just like his home universe

And when his identity and reasons ARE revealed…… ho boy is that going to hit like a bus. At this point the group had probably gotten to know the Good Jotaros(possibly multiple of them because of Time Fuckery), so seeing how far this one had been driven? The brink he’d been shoved to? It’s going to be both terrifying and also the saddest thing they’ve seen. That the man before them lost EVERYTHING, and now was doing everything he could to get it back

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YESSSSSSS

Jonathan, while he doesn't fully understand what's going on, is firmly on the side of Hey This Doesn't Seem Very Good How About You Don't Break The Universe-. 3taro is in a similar boat but with the added terror of possibly becoming this in the future, so he wants to stop it all NOW. As for Jolyne..... I can see her initially in this group, but what if later down the line when she learns the reason why Jotaro is doing all this, it gets a bit more complicated and she starts to learn more to Team "Let's Try And Talk This Out"

Speaking of which, Josuke and Oldseph probably picked this side because they know Jotaro. They've fought alongside him, protected each other, been vulnerable, and even with what he's doing right now they can still see pieces of the Jotaro they once knew. The fact that he'd been so shattered, that he'd been driven to this brink...... it breaks their hearts and they want nothing more than to help him. Heck, they might even be a bit angry too at their counterparts. Why had they let this happen, Why weren’t they there for him, why hadn’t they done something, etc etc

4taro though...... he's on the team for a slightly different reason.

At this point, Jolyne has been born. She's 7 years old, and 4taro already knows that as wrong as this is....... he's not fully confident he wouldn't do the same thing. It's almost painful to admit, but he knows deep down that if anything happened to Jolyne, he would do exactly what Jotaro was doing right now. It would feel hypocritical to oppose him in such a way, but he also can’t just let this happen, so he decides to try and compromise

And Joseph and Giorno....... ho boy these two. Out of all the Jojos, I'd say these two are the most shrewd. They can weigh the pros and cons and can think circles around many others, but most importantly these two know how to identify when a battle's been lost. And well...... Jotaro isn't really doing anything that bad in their eyes. He's made it clear he doesn't want to kill anyone, and there is a ridiculous amount of evidence to back his claims about the damage Stands do. Plus...... they've both been facing the brunt of supernatural cruelty. Joseph can see how Jonathan's loss pains his granny and uncle even decades later, his own parent's lives were ruined by the remains of Dio's vampires, and the Pillarmen have commit genocides. Giorno's been chased by magic mafia members for the last several days who don't give a damn who gets caught in the crossfire and clearly are never going to care. And this is of course BEFORE both groups loose the people they care about in the fight

It's definitely going to be a massive source of contention amongst them all, and that's not even touching on the thoughts of their friends and everyone else involved

Speaking of Jobro's most of them are present and they're on the following teams.

Team How Bout You Don't Break The Universe Or Else: Part1 Speedwagon, Ceasar, Ermes

Team Let's Talk Things Out: Lisa Lisa, Part5 Polnareff (Turtle Pol), Kakyoin, Koichi, Emporo

Team This Is Fine: Part2 Speedwagon, Part3 Polnareff, Okuyasu

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Of course, from here, we have three factions, each with a different goal and plan on how to deal with Heaven Assention Jotaro. Later, likely after an hours long shouting match followed by a slight brawl started by the joots and jolyne. A compremise is reached. Those who'd rather let Jotaro be will watch things from afar, and those who'd like to talk things out with Jotaro have one chance a meeting which will be the deciding factor for the pro killing Jotaro faction.

To say this meeting doesn't go well is an understatement, the Joestar Collective had 19 people on their side vs HA Jotaro now it's 14 vs HA Jotaro and 5 former collective members.

Where exactly did it all go wrong you might ask? Simple HA Jotaro is a hell of a manipulator, on top of some people already seeing the merit of his plan.

When given the time to speak, he calmly says the following

"Aren't you all tired of losing..."

"Jiji, you lost an arm, Polnareff your whole body is gone, and Giorno everyone you traveled with except 3 died"

"Those tragedies are but a few, everyone here has lost something"

"Don't you think it's time for us to do something about it"

"I can, and I will"

"You need only ask, and I will change your life for the better"

"So... who's with me"

Or something like that (I wrote this on a break a work). Any thoughts who'd join HA Jotaro? Would anyone, would a brawl break out right here?

HOHOHHOHO I AM GRINNING LIKE A MADMAN OVER HERE

My only counterpoint for the team distribution is flipping Part 3 Pol and Part 5 Pol, since as of Part 5...... Polnareff's gone through some shit. Everything of Part 3, plus the SHITSHOW of Part 5 and the loss of his body, I'd say after/during P5 Pol would be more likely to jump on the This Is Fine team. There's also how I don't think it would be that far out there to suggest P5 Polnareff had met, or at least known of, Jolyne's existence. Learning Jotaro is doing this to bring back his dead daughter? That might just be the final push to get him to agree

I can see most of brunos gangs being oh team this is fine and not only because gio is on the team but because like. None of them ever really wanted to be in the mafia to begin with and while some of them find use with thier stand or are even close to them (with exception of you know fugo who would kill his stand in a heart beat) they can see how a world with no stand would be better. Would get rid of crime or the mafia but at least would level the playing field.

(PLUS imagine HA Jotaro when tries doing like time travel stuff to get rid of stands but occasionally over shoots his location leading to im being both the mysterious stranger for both Gio and josuke)

Y e s s s s s s s s s

ooooo the Sentient Stands are going to add SO much more chaos, because for example people like Mista or Koichi would feel really freaking bad if they lost their Stands because They Think And Feel And Are Their Own Beings.

and that’s not even mentioning the possible clashing between Natural Born Users and Arrow Born Users. For the most part, a majority of the Arrow Born Users had their abilities forced on them or got them in really shitty situations. However, the Natural Born Users have had their Stands for their entire lives. This is an intimate part of themselves and it's being taken away from them

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So no idea where this AU came from but

AU where Giorno gets time travelled all the way back to when he was a small young child, freshly moved to Italy but with all his memories and stuff intact but with only regular Golden Experience

so naturally he starts trying to fix things preemptively and along the way ends up accidentally meeting and befriending everyone in the Bucci Gang long before he’s supposed to and long before they even met each other. Ofc, he doesn’t spend much time lingering on it because He Has More Important Things To Do And Getting Them Involved Will Mean They’ll Get Very Very Hurt, but meanwhile they’re all Concerned about this actual child who never seems to have a parent around and is WAY too smart

Also I feel La Squadra should get involved at some point. Just because

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God the comedy potential of this. A 20-year-old Risotto staring, befuddled, at this 7-year-old who is standing in front of one of Passione’s meth labs, which is now somehow in the middle of a rainforest. A very… aggressive rainforest.

He can’t exactly hurt the kid, there’s no proof he’s responsible. He ends up asking the kid if he has adult supervision to which he says yes. (Said adult supervision is a 12-year-old with white hair in a cafe half a mile away who is just as befuddled as Risotto.) (Giorno still has trouble remembering that Abbachio and Bruno aren’t Adults.)

WHERTKENGNDBFBD

Y E S

At some point Diavlo gets super pissed a Stand User keeps destroying all their drug labs with plants and animals they can’t destroy without being hurt themselves, so he ends up sending Risotto to look into it. And while he can’t find the User…… this one kid who he’d heard Gelato and Sorbet talk about is almost always there without parental supervision and it weirds him out because Why???? He knows from the two that that kid’s probably a Stand User, but he seems to heal things not make plants

just wait until a few years down the line when their overthrowing the Boss plans are in full swing and he finally reveals everything Gold Exp can do

Also just….. the mental image of Abbaccio having this mildly creepy kid occasionally following him around. He doesn’t know the kid’s name, who he is or where his parents are, and he doesn’t talk much beside a couple words and vaguely ominous sentences, but sometimes the kid will get closer and they have short talks. Maybe he even starts carrying around a small pack of candy to offer when the kid gets close enough. He still doesn’t know him very well, but he grows to be genuinely attached and looks forward to seeing Giorno out of the corner of his eye

Abbaccio looses track of how many times he notices the kid watching him. And these spottings only increase after he becomes a police officer, even when he’s patrolling well into the night and the kid should be at home asleep (he has ideas of why the kid isn’t though, and because of that Abbaccio can never bring himself to chase him away)

And for a pinch of angsty fun…… what if Giorno is there the night Abbaccio’s partner dies

or rather, the night his partner was supposed to die

What if Giorno was watching, waiting, for this exact night so he could intervene. What if he’s able to use Golden Experince to save that man’s life before he bleeds out

but also…… what if Giorno doesn’t quite get away unscathed. Maybe the man they were arresting panicked at seeing the sudden movement by the door, nerves through the roof and tension high at having shot an officer, and he fires at Giorno

it wasn’t a lethal shot. In his time as Don, Giorno had survived far worse, and it was simply a matter of filling in the pieces. And besides, it was a small price to pay for Abbaccio’s future. He’d done what he needed to do, prevented the tragedy which sent the man spiraling the first time. Abbaccio doesn’t need him anymore, so Giorno moves on while doing his absolute best to ignore just how badly leaving hurts

…….but in doing so, he accidentally triggers a different tragedy

Because Abbaccio doesn’t know what happened to Giorno afterward. All he knows is that the kid who’d been following him for years saved his partner, got shot, and disappeared without a trace

Abbaccio thinks Giorno died

Abbaccio thinks he got Giorno killed

He thinks that he’s never again going to be able to catch those blue eyes watching him from afar, never again going to get the faint prickle on his neck from being followed, never again going to sit on a park bench waiting for the boy to get closer so they can share a word or two

And he spirals almost as badly as he does in canon. Abbaccio still gets kicked off the police force for accepting the bribe and getting his partner injured, and once again he’s left drinking and drifting for Bucciarati to find

he never talks about Giorno. It hurts far too much. But if he stops by the same park to sit on a specific bench and keeps a small bag of Giorno’s favorite candy in his pocket, we’ll, that’s nobody’s business

and slowly, he begins to heal. Not in the sense things get better, but in how things finally stop getting worse. He’s able to stop himself from fracturing even more, is able to pull himself together into some semblance of a person so he can go about his day to day life and fulfill his duties under Bucciarati

But then of course, everything comes crashing down when Abbaccio spots a 15 year old boy with familiar blue eyes

But this time, thankfully, Abbacchio’s partner is there. They drift apart, and Leone still winds up in the mafia, but somehow his partner has the almost-supernatural ability to check in on Leone’s worst days and get him back to his feet. They gradually fall into a Detriot: Become Human / Disco Elysium-style dynamic; the quintessential Good Cop x Angst Cop, except one of them isn’t a cop anymore and the other may or may not be hiding a secret ability that manifested a few days after his buddy Leone got a boy killed.

Abbacchio’s partner has a passing familiarity with Bucciarati, but being on opposite sides of the law means they regard each other with vague hostility the one or two times they happen to meet.

The differing source of trauma and additional support would also grant Moody Blues a subtly different powerset. But it’s also affected temporally by the fact that this is an alternate timeline that Giorno has already changed tremendously.

Feel free to discard whatever you want from this, but the following is tailored for maximum crunch with this AU:

  • This new Moody Blues, apart from rewinding and replaying a person’s past over and over (like Leone does with his memories all the time), could also have a “channel switch” where Abbacchio can check up on what someone is doing at present in the original timeline (as Leone constantly despairs over what could have been but has more mental fortitude this time to handle the extra ability). For example, in the old timeline Mista could be fighting Rolling Stone, and if Abbacchio was at the same building at that exact time in this new “alternate present,” he’d be able to use Moody Blues to “livestream” the alternate Mista defending Bucciarati even when his Mista is standing next to him. The “channel switch” would disable the rewind and replay functions when active. In Abbacchio’s opinion this ability is tiresome and only circumstantially useful.
  • Apart from decreased stats, the major trade-off would be that the person being replayed by Moody Blues gets the minor, unshakable feeling that they’re being watched. Say, if Abbacchio replayed someone from fifteen years ago, then fifteen years in the past they would get that nagging feeling, since Abbacchio is looking at them from the future. The very act of replaying someone with Moody Blues creates a stable time loop where the future affects the past, which informs the future, etc. On the other hand, Abbacchio’s teammates can recognize this weakness and know that this sudden feeling right now means there is something worth rewinding to.

Ooooooooo that’s a fun idea

The possibility of Abbaccio’s partner having a Stand could be so much fun to mess around with. What if he was a Natural Born User, and maybe it’s a Phenomena type Stand(doesn’t have an actual manifestation) so he never full realized what it was

I like the idea of it being some kind of empathic ability. Given what we know about the guy that lines up pretty well, and maybe to give it more Stand Vibes in being weird, he see the emotions and kinda…… not quite manipulate them, but influence them. Give them a bit of a nudge, if you will

Maybe at first he wanted to be angry with Leone. That he’d taken the bribe, that he nearly got shot, that a young boy got caught in the crossfire

But……. It’s so hard to be angry when he feels the grief and self loathing hanging around him like a cloud that only gets thicker and bigger the more time goes on. When he sees how Leone wastes away, drowning in the guilt with no reprove in sight

He’s still angry about what happened, but Leone is beating himself up more than enough for the two of them. So he does what he can to help. He makes sure to check in on him when he can, makes sure he’s actually eating and taking care of himself,

As for Bucciarati…… he doesn’t like the man. He’s mafia, and despite the positive whispers he’s heard, he can shake the slight discomfort and dissatisfaction whenever he’s there. But it’s been years since he last saw Leone like this, and he can’t deny the way the dark cloud grows a bit lighter the more Leone spends time with him. He may not like it, but he’s willing to be civil, for Leone’s sake

I love the addition of peering into the first timeline, that could open up so much chaos. Abbaccio probably wouldn’t even fully understand what the ability is at first, just that Moody seems to be showing him something in the past that didn’t seem to happen

And what if one time he goes back to the building where he thinks Giorno died. Just once he goes to see what this “alternative” past ability would show him (he could never bring himself to use Moody on it before, he didn’t want to see his failure recreated and witness this innocent boy die a second time)

And when he does, he’s not sure if it’s better or worse than what happened this time

he never uses Moody anywhere near that building after that

(also, for another fun reason about the feeling of being watched part: what if that feeling of watching comes from Abbaccio’s memories of a Giorno watching him)

After everything is done and over with and Diavolo is killed, Abbachio goes to visit his old partner because he needs a drink away from the everything. Because he is still trying to process what just happened in the past week.

Ooh, that reminds me, what will the interactions between Bucciarati’s gang and La Squadra going to be? Do they still come to blows? If not, will there be other stand users interfering with either group?

WELL ✨

By the time “canon” has rolled around, they’ve already gotten all the pieces in place. They’ve managed to track down Polnareff and the arrow, both of which are currently stashed away in their basement waiting for everything to be over. Giorno even went the extra mile and transformed the arrow into a small but very sturdy houseplant. Pol’s also been filled in on the plan and is sort of their Guy In The Chair(and also has the Speedwagon Foundation and Jotaro on speed dial in case shit goes sideways)

However, Giorno’s still going to end up joining to the Bucci Gang for two main reasons. 1) they’d rather have Bucciarati as capo then Polpo because that’ll make things easier for them in the long run, and 2) they haven’t made contact with Trish since they weren’t sure how to reliably interact with her in a way that wouldn’t get Diavlo’s attention on her early, which would just make things infinity more difficult

So they split up, each preparing for their part of the plan to lure Diavlo out and doing their damnedest to avoid anyone dying this time. They do still play the role of “traitors against Passione trying to get the Boss’s daughter,” however this time their attacks are less to cause damage and more to steer the gang where they need to go and keep things at least semi predictable. It’s less long fights, more hit and run tactics with some slight changes as to who fights who to make things easier and safer (Pesci ends up being really useful here and ends up hanging back so if things go poorly he can use Beach Boy to yank them out of danger) 

And for the most part? Things on La Squadra’s end go almost perfectly. There’s a couple bumps and a couple injuries, but they’re alive so they consider it a win :D 

Giorno though…… with him it’s a bit messier

At first it goes fine. He manages to not have to fight Bucciarati, takes the test, kills Polpo, and it’s all good and according to plan

But then things start to get a bit….. weird when he first meets the gang.

Mista, Narancia and Fugo, while they did know Giorno, don’t fully recognize him at first because of his hair. And besides, even if they did most of their interactions had been in passing, usually him offering them a bit of help and such. They were kind of friends and did like him, but they weren’t that close (which was purposeful on Gio’s part)

But Abbaccio? He’s had those eyes haunting his every waking and resting moment for the last couple years so he recognizes him IMMEDIATELY

However, he doesn’t say anything about it. The way he’s not fully able to hide things is enough to tip off the others that there’s something going on, but he refuses to elaborate (for now at least)

And while Abbaccio is arguably more suspicious of Giorno than in canon, he’s not as cold. If anything, by Abbaccio Standards he’s almost being nice, if a bit skittish. And naturally this confuses the hell out of everyone, Giorno especially, because Abbaccio doesn’t just act like this, especially not to someone he just met. Maybe somewhere down the line Bucciarati ends up pulling him off to the side to ask what’s up

there’s also going to be the fun terror when time starts being weird and Giorno just goes barreling in, GER ready to k i l l

But yeah when this is all over and Diavlo’s dead, Abbaccio’s going to need a good chunk of time to process all this because that entire week was both the best and worst thing to have ever happened to him and he really needs to just. Process

(also kinda off topic but merging this with Corpse of Gold would create SO many more issues for Abba to deal with drfhdjfvd-)

I just thought of ways that Giorno could try to intervene in the tragedies of the other 3 members of Buccis gang (minus Bruno himself for obvious reasons) and yeah all of them would probably make him less memorable than for Abba, but still impactful.

  • Mista’s the only one other than Abbachio who directly sees Giorno intervening, and even then it isn’t as direct an intervention at first. Giorno is just a kid testing out this new camcorder he stole got for his birthday who happened to catch the shootout on camera, providing some definitive evidence that would either help clear Mista’s name or make it clear to him that the reason he was arrested wasn’t due to bad luck, it was due to a corrupt court condemning him for angering the mafia, depending on how you read that situation. If the former, he you could bring in that one idea that Mista had a dormant stand that was stunted by either his experience or the stand arrow, possibly giving him a new stand entirely, and being pressured into Passione because of his stand. If the latter, Mista now has a definitive grudge against the mafia and could already be planning on betraying them. He just didn’t expect that he wouldn’t be alone.
  • Narancia’s situation is… tricky. Honestly, I’m not sure if Gold Experience can heal an infection. It can deal with the symptoms, but the root cause is in itself a lifeform, so at best Giorno can bolster the immune system and at worst he can only prolong the inevitable, and since Narancia’s mother’s death is such a huge part of his story her surviving could change things immensely. If she does still die, and Narancia does still fall in with the street kids, I could see Giorno keeping the blonde kid from committing the crime that Narancia was framed for… inadvertantly making the street kids think Narancia was a snitch and abandoning him. Oops.
  • Fugo… I’ll be honest I can’t think of any solution that would help Fugo while still giving him reason to join Passione. I could however, see Girono fail to lure the professor away so he can deal with him himself, with this failure steeling Giorno’s resolve to help his other friends.

YESSSSSSSS

(going in chronological order because my brain managed to tie some of them together)

For Fugo, I’ll admit, the best I could come up with was still pretty suspicious, but who knows maybe we could use that suspicion to help him connect a couple dots later down the line

with this one…… what if Giorno straight up sneaks into the college. It would’ve been practically impossible to get close to Fugo in the traditional social sense, and Giorno sure as fucking hell wasn’t letting this repeat, so at age 12, still tiny from his years of malnutrition, he sneaks into the college to try and change things

……..to say they go poorly is an understatement

the plan had been simple. Hide in the room behind some bookshelves, record the professor being Very No No with Fugo, then use Gold to intervene before anything actually happens and make it so Fugo won’t get blamed and the professor gets put behind bars (and maybe he could even use the footage to get his new guardians to make sure the man is dealt with)

only…….. well, seeing these things on paper is one thing

seeing it in person? seeing it done to someone you care about?

it’s something entirely different

And Giorno……. well…… he snaps

In an instant the plan he’d spent years crafting was no more, nothing but hot, protective rage left in its wake. And Fugo…… he honestly couldn’t explain what happened that day. He remembers a boy smaller and younger than he was jumping out from behind the bookshelves, remembers his professor bleeding and being thrown across the room like a ragdoll, remembers a sudden cascade of every kind of horrid, disgusting, terrifying creature he could think of covering the man, all before being dragged out of the room with boy running ahead and being taken far, far away

but no matter how hard he tries to remember, he could never recall seeing the boy touch him or his professor

and he doesn’t have time to ask questions either, as the second the boy looks back at him, the amount of terror that flits across his eyes is enough to make Fugo flinch. The boy stutters, hands shaking as if he’d only just realized what he’d done, before he blurts out “I shouldn’t have done that” and then he’s gone

Fugo still gets arrested and disowned afterward. Apparently the police found the strange kid’s recording device which just served as more evidence against him. The fact the professor was now in a coma of unknown cause didn’t help matters either

But he’s too busy thinking to be properly angry. Why did the kid have a camera? Why was he in that room? How did he do what he did? What did he mean by “I shouldn’t have done that”? Did he mean he shouldn’t have intervened, or that he shouldn’t have hurt the professor, or that he shouldn’t have done whatever he’d done, or that he shouldn’t have run, or-

Hundreds of theories swirl in Fugo’s head and he unfortunately isn’t able to find many answers

(what he doesn’t know is that what Giorno regrets was failing to help Fugo. That because of his emotions, because of his reaction, because of his impulsiveness, things have barely changed from the first time and that in his eyes that was seen as a failure)

For Narancia, I unfortunately don’t think Giorno would be able to save his mom, but Giorno would definitely try helping in other ways. He might even slightly befriend Narancia, but keep him at a distance in order to prevent getting too close. And he does do what he can to try and alleviate Narancia’s symptoms (not that the other boy knows it), but he needs a doctor which Giorno unfortunately can’t provide. Not without risking things worse than they already are

Although it’s faint because of the sickness and his mental spiraling, Narancia vaguely remembers someone. Someone who spoke in soft tones and brought him food, how when he was with him his eye always hurt less and he felt warm, who promised that he would get better and the future wasn’t hopeless

He never got their face, name, can’t even remember what their voice sounded like…… just that they were there

and……. what if one day was a bad day. The day Fugo was supposed to find Narancia, and for the first time in over a year Fugo and Giorno meet again. Fugo recognizes him almost instantly, but his infinite questions die on his tongue seeing the sick boy he’s holding

he doesn’t meet his eyes. If any, it seems like he’s doing everything in power to avoid meeting his. He’s bigger than when he had helped Fugo, but not by much and it’s clear he’s struggling to support the sick kid’s weight

“help him.” he whispers “please”

Narancia is……. a little confused and mostly going through the motions when Fugo takes him. He mourns the loss of his Warm Friend, but is too sick to respond much. He’s even more confused when he wakes up in the hospital

Narancia sometimes wonders is his friend was even real or just something his sick, lonely brain conjured up to make things a bit easier

(what he doesn’t know is that Giorno left him flowers every day he was in the hospital and watched from afar to make sure he healed correctly)

and then Mista. How boy Mista. While his isn’t very connected to the other two’s, I had no less fun coming up with it

I’m loving the idea with Mista planning to betray Passione. Just. imagine Mista standing there in court, watching this brave 14 year old kid hold his ground and stand up for him. They never talked nor had any time to interact outside of the court proceedings, hell Mista never even had a chance to get the kid’s name, but he cares for and respects that kid who tried to help him more than anything

But of course, this respect and admiration is only dwarfed by Mista’s fear, because yeah this seemingly random kid just went against the mafia for him. There’s no way he’s going to get away from this unscathed and the thought of this innocent kid who just wanted to help being put in danger makes Mista’s blood boil

And what if…… what if when he spends that one night in jail before Bucciarati picks him up, Giorno visits him. Using Gold he manages to grow something to hold him up to the window and he manages to peak in and with Mista a few words

And Giorno…… while he didn’t realize it, seeing this kid who already risked everything to help him apologize for not being enough, trying and give him words of encouragement, telling him that everything would be okay……. it helps give Mista back his resolve. Before he was terrified and calmly accepted prison, and now….. well, he was still terrified, but now he had something to look forward to. He has something to hold onto, a purpose to cling to, someone to remember and hope to meet again when he gets out.

That night, Mista decides the first thing he’s going to do when he gets out of prison is buy that kid an ice cream

……..but then he doesn’t go to prison. Instead, a well dressed man who’s clearly mafia ends up making him an offer. Join his team and Mista could be a free man, and he almost doesn’t accept it. After all, the mafia’s the whole reason he’s stuck in here to begin with……. but once again, Mista thinks back to the kid. Remembers the danger he could be in, realizes that with an in he could possibly do something about it, could protect the kid the same way the kid tried to protect him

so he does. He takes Bucciarati’s offer and becomes their gunman…… but no matter how hard he looks, Mista never manages to track him down

In between his revenge plots, Mista has spent many nights worrying about Giorno’s fate

(what he doesn’t know is that Giorno has a VERY protective family of assassins watching his back, all of whom are much higher up on the pecking order than a couple foot soldiers with a grudge)

And for all three of them, as the months and years pass, already vague details about Giorno grow fuzzy, loosing the clarity they once had. They never forget, but it becomes harder to remember the strange boy who did what he could to save them

so when a confident blonde boy with careful word walks in with Bucciarati on that faithful day, seemingly the boy’s opposite in nearly every way….. well, it’s only natural they didn’t recognize him at first

Ooh, I had a thought, what if Fugo saw Giorno accompanied by one of La Squadra (let’s say Illuso) and he assumes that Illuso is a student and Giorno is a younger relative, and that’s why he sees Giorno wandering around the campus?

Heck, we could extend these cameos to the others as well, have them see Giorno with the La Squadra members they fought in the other timeline. Narancia sees Giorno being led around by a man in an orange shirt and a man who has to be wearing contacts that make his scaleras black, and Mista sees that Giorno was escorted to court by a man in a vey formal, black suit and a man with curly, cyan hair.

Also, I love the idea of their stands possibly being slightly different. Aerosmith would probably be mostly the same, but the other two? Sex Pistols could have a more defensive focus, since Mista both saw someone come to his defense and wants to keep them safe in turn (and also he might not be as superstitious about the number 4 so there’s that). And Purple Haze… oh boy. Purple Haze’s virus could cause less direct harm since Fugo isn’t as concerned with his rage, but as a tradeoff could cause hallucinatory effects or dull their reaction speed, to reference that one pivotal, confusing movement where Fugo couldn’t process what was happening fast enough.

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ooooooo I love the idea of Giorno secretly getting the Squadra to help him, even when they don’t realize it

maybe Giorno asks Illuso if he could take him to the college because “he heard they had a really good encyclopedia on rare bugs which wasn’t at the public library and he kinda wanted to check it out but didn’t want to waste money and buy it” and of course Illuso agrees, Giorno never asks them for anything, he can’t fuck this up besides the others would kill him is he did-

And getting into the college was easy enough. All it took was a couple well placed mirrors and they were in, and Illuso looks about college age. Besides, you just need to look confident and like you belong there and most people won’t look twice. There was a small hiccup when Giorno disappeared, but no biggie. The kid probably went off to find his book or something, the kid was determined to be independent after all. Finding him would be easy

………naturally he gets a pinch more worried when the police show up dragging away a kid barely older than Giorno coming from the direction Giorno said the library had been

And what if when Illuso does find Giorno at least an hour later sitting alone in a small tucked away area he immediately starts with the questions. Are you okay, did you see the arrest, did anything happen, why did you run off and Giorno just

Cries.

Now, he internally justifies this as getting Illuso to stop asking questions. After all, questioning a crying child is very uncomfortable and is the most surefire way of getting Illuso to not press (definitely not because he’s been stewing in his own failure and emotional unease and general disgust of what happened nope definitely not)

And it works, but also Illuso is now REALLY freaking the fuck out because one of the first things they learned about Giorno was that He Doesn’t Cry Or Seek Comfort Unless Shit’s Absolutely Fucked and decides “okay, I can come back for the book later I’m taking him home” and he does

(Maybe Giorno does eventually explain what happened, but very vaguely and like what he saw was sheer coincidence. That professor guy is absolutely going to die though, so that’s nice at least :D)

With Riz and Formaggio, what if that had been just. General walking around town things. Groceries, taking Giorno to school, going to the park, that kind of thing, all of which Giorno uses to keep an eye on things and sometimes sneak off to check in on Narancia

The court thing……. that’s gonna be fun. The Squadra are definitely not happy Giorno got involved in this, but they also know that if they try to stop him he’ll just go it alone which would be even worse. Right now the best thing they can do to make sure Giorno stays protected and safe is help him. They all probably wanted to go but knew that…… probably wouldn’t go very well, and sending Risotto would probably bring ALL sorts of attention given the fact he’s the Squadra leader. But at the very least while Prosciutto and Ghiaccio are with Giorno at the court proceedings, the rest of the Squadra are making sure that regardless of the verdict (which they’re honestly pretty sure isn’t going to be in the guy’s favor but weren’t sure how to break that to the kid) Giorno wouldn’t be hit with any backlash

They also prepare some things they know make Giorno happy like his favorite movie and snacks and plushies so he’ll have some comfort when this inevitably doesn’t work out

Mista is also probably the most likely to recognize any of the Squadra because he ends up fighting both Prosciutto and Ghiaccio AND his meeting with the two of them had been the most recent. Maybe this could lead to Mista starting to see some of the dots, but without knowing Giorno was the kid he can’t quite connect them

and YESSSSSS with the slightly shifting Stands. For the Pistols, what if they’re a tad flipped from canon in how instead of it being easier to do offense, it’s easier for them to do defense. They still can, it just takes a lot more to pull off and takes practice. Haze being hallucinatory is such a fun idea to play around with, but what if it’s still also pretty deadly. It’s not an instant KO, and it’s still as fragile as in canon, but it can still do some MAJOR damage if given enough time. Also I think Purple Haze should still be difficult to control, this time because of how Fugo had none when everything was going down with Gio

and for Narancia, a possible idea could maybe be that instead of seeing carbon dioxide, he could track heat. He still has the ability to adjust the sensitivity, but this could tie into how with Giorno for once he wasn’t cold and was just pleasantly warm

I just. I had to write a little thing. (I’m playing a bit with what you mentioned earlier, about the order being switched up a bit.) (Also some speculation about stand synergy at the end

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Mista is Doing His Best and I ADORED the detail with Polpo I didn’t even think about that but it’s perfect

Also I am 10000000% taking the thing about the Melone Using Animals Instead, I really wasn’t sure what to do with this guy and that makes everything about this au INFINITELY easier, thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏

also also, I had an idea for the Baby Face “fight”

what if instead of that being a fight it’s like….. a sort of check in, so to speak. Melone has Dog Junior do what he does in the original timeline with cubing Bucciarati and Trish, however instead of there being a fight Melone decides to use this as a chance to be able to talk with Giorno and make sure things are going to plan. They don’t talk very long, it would be WAY too risky incase they got caught, but it’s a nice moment

of course, from an outside perspective it’s Not that, as Giorno still blows Junior up (which he feels really bad about) and is a tad bloody (don’t worry, he wasn’t actually hurt, he just used Gold to make it)

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