Have you considered that the Class President girl’s stand has something to do with cause and effect? She was getting vengeance on Yukako, didn’t think her actions had consequences, and her existence as an antagonist is solely because Yukako was pursuing Koichi. I think using consequences as a common thing over the arc would be a good idea. Maybe we hear other students talking about how Yukako only snuck her way out of juvie because she had money, or how they heard about her kidnapping another student. Maybe we sometimes see background characters with the weird Cinderella eyes until the end of that episode. Bonus points if Kira’s “wife” also gets them because that’s just how Cinderella works, and it helps to tip off Hayato.

Anyway, I think a fun ironic power would be intangibility. Maybe she can’t be touched, but can still touch other things, like stands, except she can’t even be touched by those. She has Yukako on the ropes…until she doesn’t. Her intangibility stops, and she suddenly starts to take all of the damage at once. Maybe multiplied, because sitting on something just makes it worse.. It isn’t lethal, but she gets a broken arm and a few cuts. I’m not sure how it should end. A stand cooldown might be neat, but it could also be interesting if while Stands can’t hit her, their effects can be applied. So she gets hit by a bunch of sounds from Echoes ACT 1, that surprise her, making her drop the stand and then get hit.

Oooooooooo that's a REALLY fun idea

I'm in love with the idea of using Consequences/Cause And Effect as a big central idea for this AU, and it works perfectly with my vision of what I want this to be. There's the fun duality of both Yukako and the Class President not realizing there were consequences, but when faced with them Yukako decided to learn from her mistakes while CP just tried to take it even further

it would also be really fun to play with just how much of her being an antagonist is her fault. Of Yukako acknowledging her mistakes and maybe even apologizing for what she'd done and started, but also there being an understanding that while Yukako might have started it, ever single decision up to this point had been the CP's own. She chose to escalate things to this point, chose to hurt Koichi out of revenge, to ally herself with powerful enemies just to hurt them

she isn't evil person, but she's definitely not a good one either

and intangibility could be V E R Y fun to play with, especially with the possibly backlash A La Jojo Stand Rules™

what if, to keep going with the Cause/Affect stuff, she can control how things affect each other but misinterprets what it actually is? She interprets it as intangibility, but what's actually happening is an ability similar to Kraft Work. Whatever's happening to the object is being stored and saved up to be activated later, and can be layered. The stored effects can be activated all at once or slowly over time, depending on what the User decides

this can also be a fun parallel to her situation. If the CP had been aware of her powers, she would've had a much easier time fighting. She could've absorbed the injuries she sustained and slowly over the course of the fight let them appear and thus conserve her energy while also keeping herself in good shape. But instead what happens is her running out of stamina or just reaching her limit of how much it could take, and suddenly it exploded outward

if it's the second one, it could also add an interesting aspect to the fight of how even though Yukako was angry........ she wasn't actually trying to hurt the CP too badly. It was mostly a lot of chasing and corner her, at worst disable her so she'd be stuck

but then of course Koichi is freed, and he's confused and more than a little terrified. And the first thing he sees upon being let out is Yukako slightly injured and out of breath, Tonio and Joseph trying to help, and the same girl who used a Stand to manipulate him without him knowing

it's only natural he lashes out

(also, separate from all this I've been trying to come up possible ideas for names since she........ REALLY needs one at this point, but I've got nothing ;-; so if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to share-)

So, as for the name, I actually found something really interesting about Yukako’s original name I wanted to share (though I’m not exactly getting this from a credible source, so take it with a grain of salt). Apparently, her name is sort of a pun. Yukako herself is supposed to take Shoujo tropes to the extreme, right? Well, her name was made as a play on a phrase for a “perfect traditional wife” in Japan. The exact phrase is “Yamato nadeshiko” which is apparently referring to a specific kind of flower that grows at high altitudes. Meanwhile, Yukako’s name means something along the lines of a “flower at the base of a mountain.”

I thought that that could be used somehow. The President, as we’ve written so far, is a foil to Yukako, so I felt like it fits. As it turns out, Nadeshiko is a given name, albeit somewhat rare. Maybe a bit heavy handed, but workable and plays into her ego.

As for the surname, using “yama,” for mountain somewhere sounds good to me. “Maruyama” is a decent one- usually it means round mountain, but “Maru” can also be used for something complete or perfect in other contexts, so I think we can repurpose it.

So something like “Perfect Flower on a perfect mountain?” Nadeshiko Maruyama.

Anyway, I had the idea that we could rewrite Nadeshiko into being the last person to see Shigeki alive. You know, for the hurt.

OOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S REALLY CLEVER!!!!!!!

this is the exact kind of thing I was looking for, I love it. Nadeshiko Maruyama is perfect

and yesssssss, Nadeshiko doing that is both incredibly in character and adds more layers of her lack of self awarness <333

Do you see what Hayato doesn’t?..

disastrous moment before stray is stuffed into a knitted cat beanie (and okuyasu's subsequent tragic death)

So i realized something today

can you imagine how jotaro felt when koichi got donated by a blonde villain right in front of him

I think about it constantly <3

just. Think about it

Jotaro’s worst fears are quite literally coming true before his very eyes. The past he’s trying to avoid repeating, the memories he’s trying to keep as only that, the sacrifices he’s made, all of it has been dropped right in front of his face

as a failure

in that moment, Koichi is so painfully like Kakyoin

he could’ve run. He could’ve left. He had no ties to this battle and could’ve returned to his normal life at any point

but they didn’t. They stayed and fought alongside people who were strangers

and in the end, they gave everything they had to further that fight. So that the battle wouldn’t be lost after their death, even though nobody but a handful would know what they’d done

They spat in the face of their killer while they were on death’s door, they accepted their death with open arms even though it was painful and terrifying, all because of the unwavering faith they had in their allies

do you think he wondered how many more times this would happen? How many more times he’d be responsible for a teenager’s death because he couldn't handle a fight?

do you think he wanted to apologize in the afterlife?

do you think he wondered if he’d be forgiven?

So i realized something today

My bff Koichi

oh boy

I just had. So many ideas for this.

Iggy has the rare honor of being a Magical Girl Companion who can and will swear. Pet Shop is the Magical Girl Companion from Joseph's era who was captured and corrupted by the Forces of Darkness to deliver an emotional blow. Similarly, Tama is the companion for the DiU team until 3/4ths of the way through. FF was the corrupted companion for the Stone Ocean crew but they managed to purify them.

GW isn't originally about Magical Girls because in Italy, the Forces of Darkness Pretty Much Won. Then Giorno just looks at the whole operation, goes 'is anyone gonna purify that?' And didn't wait for an answer. The Bucci gang manage to find Coco Jumbo, who is the last remaining Companion in the country. He's their goal this time, and Trish only gets involved due to being the last BonaFide Magical Girl left in the country.

Ooh actually, different idea! What if she's actually friends with Giorno and the only reason he can't be a Magical Girl is because he's part Forces of Darkness, and then she and Coco Jumbo go missing and that causes Giorno to do the aforementioned 'is anyone going to purify that?' bit.

Yukako was originally going to be a Magical Girl, but then she got hit bad by the Corruption, to the extent where it still lingers even afterward. The Cinderella Arc focuses more on Aya being an ex-Magical Girl who specializes in purifying, which is why she ends up with a target on her head.

Kira was originally an unwillingly corrupted human who went under the radar for a terrifyingly long time. Then he happened across Akira who was the actual member of the forces of darkness and, well :) free power source right there. Aya manages to purify him somewhat during their battle. So the darkness that Kira pretty much is at this point kills his old body, kills Aya, and jumps ship to Kosaku. Kosaku is Suffering, being posessed by someone so amoral. He does manage to connect better with Shinobu somewhat after Kira's dealt with and everything's settled, though, so small silver lining there.

Stone Ocean is an example of what happens whan a Magical Girl who specializes in Purification decides to Stop Giving a Fuck About Holding Back and Being The Sweet One. Jolyne is sent to some sort of prison for the unpurifiable due to some glitch in a system somewhere, looks at the sign at the front of the prison, looks at Ermes, purifies Ermes, and gives the camera the middle finger. (Pucci, who was using the prison for Free Dark Energy, is panicking because these ones are supposed to be unpurifyable, what the fuck-)

SKJEFDBVHJEBRHJVCBEJRVEA W H E E Z E

Y E S TO EVERY SINGLE THING ABOUT THIS

Good for Iggy tbh, and just YES with all the animal stuff, absolutely adore that

I am OBSESSED with your thoughts for Golden Wind too. What if Potential Magical Girls also experience a kind of Gravity, which is why and how Trish and Giorno befriended each other. Coco is Trish's beloved pet turtle and the two don't even realise they have access to Light Magic but when they do it's a VERY closely kept secret between them. They don't even tell Trish's mom out of fear of her getting hurt. They know exactly how much danger the two could be in if anyone find out, but they promise that someday when they're old enough they'll fix Italy and purify the place that's been deemed a lost cause by the rest of the world

and an idea for Giorno, what if he's in a weird limbo of Force Of Good/Force of Evil. He can technically manipulate both kinds of energy, but he has to be REALLY careful about how much he uses because his whole existence is a balancing act and leaning too much into either side could have some really bad consequences. Too much light magic could eradicate all the dark in him and kill him that way, but too much dark will just lead to him getting corrupted which nobody wants

Because of this, he can't really use magic in the traditional way, and actually transforming scares him because they don't know exactly what it'll do. He can purify things tho!...... just, not in the usual way. What he more or less does is manipulate the Darkness to leave the vessel, then use the Light to purify and get rid of it. If it perfect? No, and if Giorno gets interrupted before he can finish the whole process it could tip the scales, but that's a risk he's willing to take

(also a crumb of an idea to maybe play with: should Giorno ever fully tip into the Darkness, it being essentially impossible to purify him because that would get rid of his natural and necessary Darkness and just kill him)

YES to Aya being an ex-Magical Girl. Not much I can think to add, but maybe in a similar boat Tonio is ex-Magical Girl Support. His food posses super high density Light Magic which gives it healing and cleansing properties

and once again Y E S WITH KIRA. What if he got infected when he was young, like mid-teens, but took one look at all the Magical Girls Kicking Ass and decided "Hmmm. What If I Didn't" and instead of doing large scale attacks to get loads of dark energy he opted for smaller amounts of controlled darkness so he wouldn't get caught. And for even more angst...... what if the original Kira is essentially gone. He was under the darkness's control for such a long time that the "real him" doesn't even exist anymore. When Kira leaves his body..... he was just a shell left behind

and what if I just. *bonks Kosaku with some of Kira's memories of being trapped by the darkness and slowly fading away to nothingness and fearing that could happen to him* :)

also, another fun Idea for Jolyne. What if she's actually aware of the fact her dad was and still kinda is a Magical Girl™, but she specifically knows how far it's pushed him. How her dad is absolutely exhausted and just wants to Live His Life but because he got so deeply involved in magic shit he's never been able to leave it behind

maybe that's one of the biggest things he teaches her when she's growing up. That you need to place your boundaries of how much you're willing to give and you aren't a bad person for choosing to prioritise your own health and safety. Is this the best choice for the greater good? Probably not, but Jotaro has personally experienced what it's like to get sucked in so far you don't get to make that choice and like hell he's putting his daughter through that

the result? An incredibly strong Magical Girl who doesn't give a flying FUCK about the public's opinion and how she's supposed to act and in the process ends up breaking all sorts of of the preset Magic Rules

I’m not sorry

Oh No, I thought of a way to make it Worse (:

What if Kakyoin decided to take a mentorship role to Shigechi! He saw this kid who was struggling to find people to relate to and immediately went 'is anyone going to big brother him?' And he didn't wait for an answer.

And then Shigechi's big bro dies.

And he isn't coming back.

D:

DDD:

DDDDDD:

*gently lifts you up*

Ailing. Why Are You Like This (/lh /j)

But also OUGH I Love It So Much, let's just make this whole AU as much of an emotional baseball bat to the head as possible

........oh god I thought of a way to make things even worse

what if Shigechi saw it happen

maybe Kakyoin told Shigechi to leave. That he'd noticed this man had followed them for a few blocks now and that he was probably a Stand User. That Shigechi was too young to fight and he had it handled

So Shigechi does leave

.....but he leaves a Harvest drone or two behind just to keep an eye on things

and oh boy what he witnessed :)

Oh No. What if Shigechi saw Kira but was too Traumatized to be able to describe him until after he managed to Kosaku away? So now on top of losing his brother, he also has misplaced guilt over letting Kira get away which led to multiple characters almost dying?

Why am I like this. Shigechi does not deserve this wHY AM I LIKE THIS.

oH NO IT JUST GOT WORSE BUT ALSO KINDA BETTER POSSIBLY.

After Kira manages to Kosaku away, Shigechi, with some advice from the rest of the Duwang Gang, decides to make friends with someone outside the group so he can be friends with someone who isn't involved with Kira.

So he makes friends with a boy a few years younger than him, one Kawajiri Hayato.

I have no idea how things play out from here but thEY DEFINITELY PLAY OUT.

HEHEHEHEHEHEH MY THOUGHTS E X A C T L Y BUT ALSO IM GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE OUT OF REVENGE >:3

just. Shigechi’s so terrified. Maybe for a bit of extra spook, Kira saw one of the Harvey drones and had Killer Queen grab it, trying to use it to taunt/torture Shigechi out. Thank fuck for the sheer number of drones the kid has because he’s physically fine, but mentally? This fucks with him HARD

it takes them hours to find Shigechi hiding, and even then he's still way too shaken up to explain anything, much to his frustration. Everyone else, while a bit upset, honestly understand why he can't talk. After all, he's 12. But Shigechi..... it hits him a lot harder and he can't help feeling so useless

and just. OUGH I also don't know how it would go, but a friendship with Hayato would Go

Logical idea: The only ones who can hear him are the Joestars.

Funny idea: the only ones who can hear him are the Jojo allies who Could Not Care Less (Iggy, Rohan, Abbachio, maybe Gwess?).

GJDJFJEJFJDJFE W H E E Z E -

Oh my god that's absolutely hilarious I love it

god Abbacchio's tho, that one is really vibing in my head for some reason

like, growing up around the times of Stardust and Diamond, he could always hear the very distant voice of Speedwagon way off when he was narrating things. He either thought he was a) hearing things or b) crazy, but given how it didn't affect his life that much he didn't think too much of it

but then Golden Wind starts and suddenly The Voice is a LOT louder and narrating Bucciarati which is enough to get him on edge because on the few times he did pay attention to the voice, it seem liked Shit Wasn't Going Super Great. The voice then only gets louder when Giorno arrives, but the kid doesn't seem to realise he's at the centre of this Voice's narration so Abbacchio doesn't know what to think

also I....... I had another chaotic idea

what if they can also hear the music score too, and as a result end up being able to make decent guestimations about what's going on based on how freaked out the music is sounding

Why do I get the feeling that during Stardust Crusaders, Speedwagon stops being “neutral narrator” and just every other word out of his mouth about Dio is him swearing at Dio.

When it’s revealed Diavolo wants to kill Trish, Abbacchio hears “OH YOU EVIL BASTARD!”

WHESFBHSEBVHCSBVS

Speedwagon tries to be neutral, but it's rather obvious who he favours ESPECIALLY when certain things end up happening. Sometimes when Abbacchio and Rohan were younger, they'd occasionally find a quiet place to sit and listen to the insanity that was Stardust.

and absolutely, Speedwagon also tries to keep things very "factual" with as little personal commentary as possible, but every once in a while something so Unbelievably Shitty will happen that he can't help it

as such, this means that when Diavolo Does A Little Trolling, not only is Abbacchio aware of it, but he also know Shit's Fucked because the Voice is cursing and insulting up a storm and he only does that when he's really ticked off

.......hey actually, another Thought....... it's entirely possible that with Speedwagon's narration, Rohan might become aware of Bites The Dust before he dies-

Oh no.

I thought of something worse.

What if Bites the Dust is able to temporarily knock Speedwagon out of commission. And Rohan and Abbachio get a moment of complete silence when before the voice was chatting up a storm and they immediately realize that something is very wrong.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO YESSSSSSS

every time everything resets Speedwagon needs a moment to reorient himself because as much as he is now an omnipotent being, he can see ë̷̼́ṽ̶̤e̶̱͌ṟ̴̓y̶̫̾t̶̼̀h̵̘̏ì̵̹n̶͉̈́g̶̦͒ so he needs to narrate how things are repeating and stuff

it puts both men on edge, but for different reasons. Rohan because of the fact that yeah he's currently ready to look into a serial killer things going all Weird really isn't a good sign. He uses everything he can to his advantage including Speedwagon's narration, so things will hopefully go smoother than canon

Abbacchio tho? He's lowkey freaking out a bit because he has no fucking clue what's happening. At this point Abbacchio has been on the fence of whether the voice is real or not, after all it could possibly be a Stand, but whether it's real or not it's enough to get him to start to panic a bit

Oh No, I thought of a way to make it Worse (:

What if Kakyoin decided to take a mentorship role to Shigechi! He saw this kid who was struggling to find people to relate to and immediately went 'is anyone going to big brother him?' And he didn't wait for an answer.

And then Shigechi's big bro dies.

And he isn't coming back.

D:

DDD:

DDDDDD:

*gently lifts you up*

Ailing. Why Are You Like This (/lh /j)

But also OUGH I Love It So Much, let's just make this whole AU as much of an emotional baseball bat to the head as possible

........oh god I thought of a way to make things even worse

what if Shigechi saw it happen

maybe Kakyoin told Shigechi to leave. That he'd noticed this man had followed them for a few blocks now and that he was probably a Stand User. That Shigechi was too young to fight and he had it handled

So Shigechi does leave

.....but he leaves a Harvest drone or two behind just to keep an eye on things

and oh boy what he witnessed :)