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Werebeast Joestars Au- they have big, monstrous forms, possibly with minimal control over them, drawing a narrative parallel between the villains who reject humanity, who choose not to care for others, and the Joestars, whose monstrous forms don't give them a choice.

Fun narrative parallels between Dio becoming a monster on purpose, and Jotaro and Jonathan using the monstrous traits they were born with and trying to turn them towards good.

Parallels between Diavalo and Giorno, both marked as monstrous and other from the moment of their birth but deciding differently what to do about it.

Parallels between Joseph and the Pillarmen, inhuman beings who don't care about what happens to humanity on their path to power, and one that defends humanity ferociously.

Parallels between Josuke and Kira, an ordinary man killing for his own pleasure versus a monster doing everything he can to protect and heal

Parallels between Jolyne and Pucci, the priest and the monster, the holy and the unholy.

(plus BIG SCARY FRIGHTENING MONSTER FORMS and BODY-HORROR LADEN TRANSFORMATION SEQUENCES are a blast to write)

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oh I love this thought :>

and what if for fun, the control aspect of the werebeast comes entirely from how accepting the Joestar in question is of it. Like, they can't try and lock it away because when it does come out it will run completely rampant. However, they can't just let it run wild and free without inhibition because that will just lead to the same thing as before, just with less steps

there needs to be a mid ground. They need to guide that part of themselves, gently but still firm. They need to find a middle ground, and while it won't give them complete control, the likelihood of them completely loosing it while transformed is severely reduced

(and for even more fun, what if they can technically shift when they want. Sure, every full moon or so they'll have a forced transformation where they'll run the risk of loosing themselves, but what if when they get more comfortable with it, they can control it, to a certain extent)

((also LISTEN THE AU NAME WAS RIGHT THERE I COULDN'T NOT))

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I could see each one having different beast forms, based primarily on different animals, which could be very interesting.

Jotaro would be a wolf. Intimidating, and the general image is of them being wild and vicious when they're actually super sweet with those they care about. Plus it could be argued that, just as wolves are the archetypical werebeast, Jotaro is the archetypical Jojo.

Holly is a bunny. Seems soft. Seems defenseless. And for the most part you're right, but if you give them enough motivation to fight, then you will be in a world of pain.

Joseph could be a raven. Clever and tricky, but not as outright-powerful as some beasts. On the other hand, they have mobility options the others don't have, for executing the Joestar Family Secret Technique. Plus, Wolves and Ravens do have a symbiotic relationship.

Kinsa stuck for the rest. Maybe Jolyne could be a fox? Works differently than wolves but still doubtlessly connected. IDK.

For Jonathan I'd think either a fuck-off massive sheepdog or some huge herd-based herbivore like a bison or moose. Something big, powerful, and protective, with an instinctual drive to protect all those around it, especially those smaller and more vulnerable, but capable of ABSOLUTELY FUCKING YOU UP with sheer size, strength, and determination if pushed.

Maybe mostly sheepdog traits with horns/hooves from one of those massive herbivores thrown in for extra damage.

Giorno maybe a mimic octopus/cuttlefish? Something alien that sets him apart from the other Joestars, sets him apart from everyone around him, but also something remarkably adaptable and intelligent, with the capability to be downright vicious if called for.

Ooh, and maybe when Dio takes Jonathan's body he steals some of the transformative abilities- his head can't shift to keep up with the body making it doubly painful and difficult, but adding onto his already terrifying health and healing abilities.

No ideas for Josuke or Jolyne though.

OOOOOOOOOOO THESE ARE INTERESTING THOUGHTS

If I may offer some of my own:

I REALLY like the idea of mishmashing various animals instead of sticking to just one. The combination could also add to the monstrous aspect of their transformations because they wouldn't be able to be immediately identifiable and more "unnatural" looking (plus it makes designing them more fun :3)

I love the mental image of Jonathan having the size and horns of a moose combined with the build and floof of a sheepdog. It's both the most adorable thing but also the most TERRIFYING because moose of fucking huge and can fuck. you. UP. Maybe he has the front paws of a sheep dog and the hind legs of a moose.

Jonathan would also probably have some of the worst self image issues of the lot, and be endlessly gentle and careful to overcompensate. He'd probably struggle with controlling his beast because of his fear, and Dio and his father definitely wouldn't help. But there would be soft moments later down the line with Erina and Speedwagon who'd help show him he wasn't a monstrous beast and could be trusted, which ironically would give him more control.

George...... admittedly not too many ideas, we don't know enough about him to make the decision obvious, we really could give him anything and it would work. For shits and giggles my brain said "what if you made him a platypus" just for the chaos, but who knows

I LOVE the idea of Joseph being a raven, and maybe he could also have some snake-like traits. He is a slippery little shit after all. Joseph would also probably have the most control out of all the Joestars. Erina and Speedwagon would recognize the signs, plus they'd already raised George II, so Joseph would be comfortable with his beast and probably use it fairly often, especially during fights. This is also going to add an interesting bit of chaos with the Pillarmen, especially Kars. They weren't at all ready for the Hamon User to become some strange creature thing but Kars is VERY interested

Holly deserves being allowed to kick ass ass treat ✨✨✨ but if I may also add for hybrid consideration: otter. I'm personally very attached to these little guys, and as cute as they are I know for a fact they can be rather vicious if need be, especially river otters. She also packs a mean kick when she wants

Jotaro....... definitely would have some issues, especially because of how much more "dangerous" his form is. For him big ol yes on the wolf, but I'm not fully sure for the secondary animal. Definitely something usually seen as dangerous but very protective of family. Maybe something aquatic/semi-aquatic? Maybe an alligator???

Josuke..... yeah I'm drawing a blank too. Part feline maybe?

I love the octopus idea for Giorno, and maybe to add a bit more to his slight separation from the rest of the Joestars, what if Giorno's also an insect, specifically a ladybug. He has a slight edge in the air and water, but can be almost dangerously fragile in some situations. This might result in him partially rejecting that part of himself because of how weak it makes him, leading to him being more unpredictable in beast form. He'd also have one of the smaller forms, probably small enough he could be picked up

(or who knows, maybe for the irony we could make him part bat)

Jolyne being a fox could be a really fun thing to play with, especially considering how her fighting style is more based on agility and outsmarting her opponents. Maybe similar to Joseph she could have some kind of flying half, but not specifically a bird. Heck, maybe we could make Jolyne part bat instead

(do I have any idea how half of these animal hybrids would look? not in the slightest, but that's half the fun of designing them later)

((also if anyone has any better suggestions, PLEASE share I'm super curious what other possibilities there are))

Gater Joot Gater Joot (added shark teeth too for the funzies)

Had fun trying to write from the Monster Form's head- I'd imagine they don't understand language much in that form, save for a few commands the family trained them on- the most important I'd imagine being 'no' 'get off of me' and 'shift back NOW'

(also this is definitely not how delayed drowning works I just wanted to hit specific emotional beats and uhhh executive functioning tenuous roll with it instead of more research)

(I do love writing this AU but need Specific Circumstances for a ficlet to get it going, feel free to throw Specific Moments That Would Be Cool ideas my way)

Anyways here's ficlet time:

Y E S S S S S S S S S S S S 

GATER BOI DOING SILLY DEATH ROLL THINGS IN THE WATER 💖💖💖

oh I absolutely loved Jotaro's internal conflict and comparing himself to his mom and grandpa and then the stark contrast of his Gater Brain telling him how to do things, it was AWESOME. And while I wasn't quite sure how big Jotaro was mentally, you made him a B I G boi and I love it

also speaking of Big, I had a sort of idea for Joseph's other form. So you know how in some stories, dragons start off super tiny as babies but just. Don't stop growing so by the time they're hundreds of years old, they're positively massive? What if something similar happens with Joseph. When he was a baby and toddler his other form could easily be held one handed, by the time Part 2 rolled around he was a bit bigger than a boa, and in Part 3 he's FAR larger than any snake could feasibly be on Earth, and that's not even accounting for the added size his wings give him

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Alright I’ve been “following” (in the sense that I’ve been reading it consistently, I only actually pressed the “follow” button recently) your blog for about a month, I really like a lot of your AU’s, and I would like to contribute some of my own thoughts to them.

I’m going to start with Dual Trip (the Part 3 version, since there are now multiple Dual Trips in existence).

Specifically, how the first half of the fights would be split between the two groups (since the second half has already been thoroughly discussed)

The two groups will be referred to as the “Jotaro Crew” (Jotaro + Kakyoin + Polnareff) and the “Jospeh Crew” (Jospeh + Avdol + Iggy) 

Tower of Grey - Joseph Crew

(Because Jospeh cannot enter a plane without fate causing it to crash)

Joseph is probably the one to defeat it dye to a combination of Hermit Purple and Joseph Joestar(trademark) Bullshittery.    

Dark Blue Moon - Jotaro Crew

I feel like an idea for this was discussed in a previous post, but I will expand on it a little bit. 

In this version, Imposter Captian Tennille is not an imposter, instead, Kakyoin and Polnareff pretend to still be servants of DIO for the purposes of getting a quick boat ride to Egypt. 

“Hello, fellow servant of DIO! Don’t you just love serving our wonderful master DIO today? We are bring this Joestar descendant as an offering to lord DIO, who we love serving so much!” Unfortunately, Polnareff talks to much and Jotaro talks too little, so the Imposter Captain catches onto their ruse. 

A fight breaks out, and the ship ends up getting destroyed, forcing the Jotaro crew to make the rest of the journey by land. 

Strength - Jospeh Crew 

(Because this way, we can avoid… that particular scene with Anne)

After the plane crash, Jospeh requests a boat from the Speedwagon foundation, but when it arrives, all of the crew are dead. After some suitably scary haunted ship action, Avdol resolves the situation by burning down the entire boat.  (And that wretched awful horrible ape along with it) 

Ebony Devil - Jospeh Crew

This is probably where Iggy shows up. Jospeh spends the whole encounter running away from a killer doll, while Iggy uses his sense of smell to track down Devo the Cursed. 

Yellow Temperance - Jospeh Crew

This fight was another one discussed in a previous post, where Rubber Soul disguises himself as Jotaro, which complexly fools the Jospeh Crew for longer than they would like to admit. 

Hanged Man + Emperor - Both Crews

This was similarly discussed in more detail in previous posts, but Avdol and Polnareff accidentally cross paths, Avdol gets shot, and then Polnareff and Kakyoin finish the fight just like in canon. 

Empress - Jotaro Crew

Admittedly I don’t have any strong ideas for this once, except that maybe Polnareff getting targeted by Empress, and Nena guilts him into not destroying it because “How could you hurt a poor innocent girl like me?”

But I’m not 100% sold on this idea, so I would be interested to hear if you had any other ideas for how this could go. 

Wheel of fortune - Jotaro Crew + Iggy

Alright, so what if Iggy used the Fool to make a giant car made out of Sand, and then (smashes toy trucks violently together like a 5 year old)  

Justice - Jotaro Crew

This probably plays out pretty much like it does in canon. Enya’s death is probably what clues DIO into the fact that “Hey wait a minute, Polnareff and Kakyoin aren’t actually working for me!” 

Lovers - Jotaro Crew

Jotaro is the one who gets the Lovers stuck inside his brain this time,  Polnareff has to have Steely Dan step on him because Polnareff is the universe’s punching bag, and Kakyoin is left on his own to get the Lover’s out of Jotaro (which is much more difficult than in canon since Hermit Purple isn’t there to provide helpful visuals)   

Sun - Jotaro Crew

Goes the same as canon. The crew walks into the desert, gets heat exhaustion, laughs at two identical rocks, and then Jotaro throws another rock and saves the Day. 

Death Thriteen - Joseph Crew

Like Empress, I don’t have any specific ideas for how this fight should go, since I don’t know if it is funnier to have Avdol, Joseph, or Iggy be the one to figure it out that the baby is the stand user.  

Judgement - Jotaro Crew + Iggy

Probably starts the same as canon, with Judgment appearing before Polnareff, offering him the wishes, Polnareff wishing for his sister and Avdol back, then getting attacked by zombies. 

However, this time It is Iggy, instead of Avdol, who saves the day. 

My reasoning for how this goes is that the “Zombies” that Judgment makes are just made out of earth, and the Fool generates itself out of the earth, meaning Iggy could just…. immediately win the fight by turning the “Zombies” into his stand. I don’t know if that is how those stands work, but the idea is funny.

Then Iggy farts in Polnareffs face and leaves. 

High priestess -Joseph Crew

This is another one where I don’t have any specific ideas, I just knew that the Jotaro crew don’t have the resources to acquire a Submarine, so this had to be another Jospeh Crew fight. Other than that, I got nothing. 

And then previous posts already outlined how the rest of encounters in Egypt would go.

If you liked these Ideas, I have some a few more to suggest about the other dual trips, as well as a lot of ideas about the StarSwap AU (which is my other favourite AUs you created), as well as an AU suggestion of my own (albeit one inspired by a comment you made), all of which I would be willing to share if you are interested. (Whenever I next get the time to type up something as long as this)

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Joseph is forever cursed on planes, that is one of the few universal constants that no AU can change

You took the thoughts right out of my head with Kakyoin and Polnareff pretending to have Jotaro hostage. And what if in an attempt to sell it more, Kakyoin ends up looping some of Hierophant's tendrils around his hands and feet like cuffs. It's not enough to actually impede him in any way nor tight enough to be uncomfortable, but it comes across as "making sure Jotaro won't try anything" thing. Maybe Tennille tries locking Jotaro below deck but Kakyoin explains that Jotaro was a crafty one and it would be best to keep him within sight at all times

and what if Anne is almost indirectly responsible for them being found out, in a way. Similarly to canon she's a stowaway, but what if at that point Tennille was starting to get suspicious so he tries killing her to bait a reaction. Lo and behold Hierophant's tentacles do almost nothing to impede Jotaro from attempting to cave his skull in

Given the fact Tennille didn't need to pretend to be an impostor this time around, it's entirely possible the crew of the ship could be some nameless extra Stand Users under Dio's command. So while Jotaro's fighting Tennille in the water, Kakyoin and Polnareff are fighting the rest of the crew on the boat while also trying to keep Anne safe. Maybe blowing up the boat was a sort of last ditch escape attempt which thankfully worked out in the end and now they have a new member of the crew :D

A BIG yes with Avdol burning the ship. These two take one look at this creepy horror movie looking thing and all the bodies and decide "yeah, how about we didn't-"

Ebony Devil could possibly have some moments similar to the N'Doul fight in how Devo doesn't see Iggy as a threat nor an enemy until it's too late. Also I think Joseph should be allowed to Yeet Iggy with Hermit Purple, just because it would be funny. And possibly to add even more insanity, what if Rubber Soul ends up teaming up with Devo so both attacks are happening at the same time. Devo was acting as a distraction so Rubber Soul could get close enough and get an opening to kill them, but in the end and possibly thanks to Iggy and his sense of smell, they realize he's a fake

Joseph........ is NOT happy, to say the least

And while the Hanged Man + Emperor fight has already been mostly covered, there's going to be a bit of added fun in Polnareff striking out on his own. After all, despite his immaturity, he's been the only adult supervision these two(technically three if you count Anne) have had for the whole trip. It hurts even worse for Kakyoin because for once there's someone else like him who's not an awful human being. Kakyoin has learned more about Stands in the last handful of weeks than he has in his entire life, and now Polnareff decides to up and leave them

He knows why, and as an explanation it's perfectly logical and should make complete sense. After all Polnareff had made his intentions very clear when he had joined up with them and Kakyoin knew him leaving was inevitable........ so why did it hurt so much?

Unfortunately I'm drawing just as much of a blank when it comes to Empress. Maybe it could play into Polnareff's actions during the previous fight? After all, they did occur within a very short time frame of each other, and the emotions and slight betrayal (plus the grief of getting someone killed) are probably still very fresh. I can honestly see Jotaro taking a bit of a backseat in this one, mostly dealing with Polnareff and Kakyoin's traumas and how they accidentally hurt eachother

I love the idea of Iggy making a giant sand car thing. He's doing all sorts of crazy tricks just to fuck around and have fun, mostly at the expense of Joseph and Avdol who are trying to hold on for dear life and not get thrown off

You're right about Justice being almost completely the same, and off the top of my head I don't see much being all that different at all. Kakyoin is absolutly going to tease Polnareff relentlessly for licking the toilet

But Steel Dan though :)

When it comes to the Lovers, I'll admit I had a slightly different idea: so as you've said, at this point Dio's starting to become aware of how Kakyoin and Pol might not be on his side anymore and thus likely wouldn't trust them with Jotaro's "transport" anymore, right?

What if Steely Dan had been sent as recon. To check it out, to secretly watch the four when they arrived and see how they acted when they thought no one was watching

Needless to say, it's pretty easy to see they aren't enemies...... so Steely Dan ends up enacting the instructions Dio had given him if they turned out to be traitors after all

Taking over Jotaro's escort to Dio. After all, his Stand is exceptionally useful in taking hostages :)

And as we've seen, Steely Dan has no qualms with putting children in the line of fire :)))

So now Anne is the one to get put under the Lover's influence and Jotaro is forced to go with Dan unless he wants her to suffer

and this is....... really not fun for them to deal with. They're all on a time limit because while Steely Dan is still toying with Jotaro and being a smug motherfucker, he's already called Dio to inform him about the situation and is slowly making his way to some transportation to take Jotaro to him, and if he does end up leaving they're going to be screwed. The man made it very clear that any attempts at following wouldn't be tolerated, and once they leave the town proper there wasn't a whole lot of cover to hide behind to conceal any attempts a tailing them

So yeah. It's stressful.

Jotaro is fucking SEETHING while this whole thing is going down. He wants nothing more than to pummel this asshole into the ground but he can't because that would mean hurting a child, hurting Anne, and after the weeks of travel he has to admit he's grown attached. He wants to fight, to yell, to do anything, but he's completely trapped right now and can do nothing but rely on his friends to save him

The Sun is at least going to be a nice break. Don't get me wrong, it was definitely terrifying, but they got a good laugh out of it

Death Thirteen....... while I don't have too many thoughts, I think we should give Avdol some time to shine here. Maybe we could play around with the fact that as sadistic as this little shit is, he's still a baby and Dio is using said baby to try and kill people. Maybe there's some kind of motive we could put in, maybe with the kid's parents (or possibly lack thereof?)

Judgement....... OW that one's going to hurt so much because this time Avdol isn't going to be there to help comfort. As far as Polnareff knows, Avdol is still dead and gone. Nothing's going to be able to bring that man back and he got taken advantage of because he thought otherwise. Iggy definitely helps serve as a wake up call here in confirming no Stand can bring back the dead, but it's still going to sting

And yeah, Submarine Shenanigans are going to be....... wild. Also fun fact, did you know that dog scuba gear exists?

and I would LOVE to hear your thoughts for the other encounters, you did an absolutely amazing job with these ones, it was incredible and so well put together and a joy to read. Definitely one of the more fun asks I've had to answer

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nOT IN THE SLIGHTEST I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ROTATING ABOUT STAND USER ANNE THIS IS PERFECT

I'll admit, the exact specifics of the ability are still being worked out, but I think it would probably have something to do with either travel or be a sort of Finding Things Stand. Maybe it could work similar to how Paisley Park does in how it helps Anne notice details, find information and make plans accordingly. Maybe it could also make things easier to remember and recall, but in actual combat Anne is almost completely helpless

And while I don't have a very good idea on the Stand's name (or whether it should follow the Tarot/Egyptian Gods theme or the song theme) I do have some thoughts for an appearance and "personality" It would be pretty small, like fit into your hands small, and non-humanoid in shape, almost robotic in some ways. Maybe a round base with some claw hands and a little propeller thingy for flight. It has a really far range and a good scout, but it mostly hangs around Anne. It's a mischievous little shit and a bit of a prankster, but can't speak and without Anne's direction has an intelligence equivalent to that of a young toddler

I can really see Anne being either a natural born User or one turned with the arrow, but Anne loves her little guy to pieces and would absolutely try to stab anyone who hurts it

this....... could also add some chaos to everything after the Dark Blue Moon fight. Like, the four of them are in the raft trying to figure out what to do and Anne suddenly starts questioning what the hell that blue thing was and why it grabbed her

and the other three just go quiet. After all, what were the chances? That out of everyone who could've stowed away on that boat, out of everyone they could've possible met, that she just so happened to be a Stand User

the chances were actually much higher than they thought, but none of them know about Gravity yet so :3

there's definitely a long talk afterward on top of explanations, and Anne has firmly decided she's coming with because she's never met people like her before and she's honestly kinda excited (Kakyoin's definitely not getting flashbacks to his own childhood, nope, definitely not, why would you think that?)

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Dadtaro: I just realized that High Priestess would be so useful for subtly helping Jolene during her stint in prison. And by subtle, I mean every non-stand user in the prison thinks that the place is haunted/more haunted than before.

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Honestly a lot of the Stardust Villains Turned Found Family would be super helpful, for example:

  • Yellow Temperance and Khnum but shapeshifting with people instead of objects
  • Dark Blue Moon and Geb would thrive in the ocean and swamp surrounding the prison
  • The Emperor is literally a gun that can’t be seen or stolen, will never run out of ammo, and has the ability to control bullets
  • Death 13 would be perfect for gather information, secret meetings when Jolyne is unable to communicate with everyone else, and interrogations
  • Judgement and possibly Tenor Sax would be great at misdirection and trickery

Jolyne is going to have an almost literal army backing her up on top of them giving her help with learning how to use and control her own Stand and fight other Users

And this isn’t even adding in Stand Users from the other two parts!

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While I was reading through your AUs, I had an idea for an AU and I don't know what to do with it, but it won't leave me alone. So, uh... if it interests you?

First some quick setup: a firm headcanon of mine is that Jotaro's interest in marine biology was, at least in part, sparked by the fight with Dark Blue Moon. It just makes sense.

But like. What if he just. Had Dark Blue Moon? What if that's just his stand? Maybe he was always interested in marine biology, maybe the imposter Captain Tennile is a long lost relative, maybe fate just knew he was going to be a marine biologist and gave him a fitting stand, IDK. What's important is that either Jotaro has Dark Blue Moon or Star Platinum is similar to Dark Blue Moon.

Somehow, Jotaro ends up just as broken as he is in canon. (Two words: Pistol Shrimp.)

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>:00000 THATS SICK AS HELL AND Y E S

Star Platinum is now a primarily aquatic Stand. It is capable of functioning just fine on land, but the second there’s water it gets a HUGE power boost

As for the animal think, what if we combine two of the most overpowered shrimp there are, being the Pistol Shrimp like you mentioned but also the Mantis Shrimp

and I can see Jotaro doing a thing where when asked he’ll say “my Stand is based off the abilities of a shrimp” and catching everyone off guard because. Well most people don’t think of Pistol and Mantis Shrimp at first thought

Also, this means that Jotaro would be able to see The Shrimp ColorsTM

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