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Back off of Wonder Woman

Did James Cameron seriously try to come for Wonder Woman being beautiful and kind?

“All of the self-congratulatory back-patting Hollywood’s been doing over Wonder Woman has been so misguided. She’s an objectified icon, and it’s just male Hollywood doing the same old thing! I’m not saying I didn’t like the movie but, to me, it’s a step backwards. Sarah Connor was not a beauty icon. She was strong, she was troubled, she was a terrible mother, and she earned the respect of the audience through pure grit. And to me, [the benefit of characters like Sarah] is so obvious. I mean, half the audience is female!”

Then he had the nerve to say:

“Being attracted to strong independent women has the downside that they’re strong independent women – they inherently don’t need you!” he says with a laugh. “Fortunately, I’m married now to a strong independent woman who does believe she needs me.” 

Just because Sarah Connor was a hardened woman who was turned cold by her circumstances and was a terrible mother doesn’t mean every single female hero needs to be that. Wonder Woman doesn’t need your fucking approval.

Stop invalidating beautiful women. Stop invalidating kind women. Women don’t have to be tortured, messy and violent to be strong or admirable or heroes.

I’m really tired of men trying to sound like big-time feminists by criticizing Wonder Woman’s costume, or any female character’s softness or beauty. You’re beyond missing the point.

You’re saying that female heroes can’t be taken seriously unless they’re as aggressive, messy, violent, unstable and ugly as the male ones.

And Diana’s costume is a Greek warrior’s armor. The men wore the same thing! Kilt, chestplate and all!

I hope all the people complaining about Diana’s costume complained about Brad Pitt’s in Troy :)))))

Patty replied though:

The same reason we talk about toxic masculinity is the same reason we needed Diana! Why need Elle Woods, Disney princesses and why we loved Sailor Moon, the Powerpuff Girls and the like.

Telling girls - and boys - that strength and toughness is being emotionally-stunted, cruel and brutal is unhealthy. Writing your usual grizzled, cranky, closed-off warrior man and making him a woman is not progress.

Diana is beautiful, Diana wears dresses, Diana is kind, Diana loves babies, children and women and men alike, Diana fell fast and hard for Steve Trevor and still pines for him. She can do all that while being adventurous, tough, well-trained in combat and ready to kick your ass to the moon and headbutt tanks.

Diana hates carnage unless it is necessary and will only run headfirst into it if it lowers the risk of even more death. That’s why she’s a hero. That was why her movie took place in World War One, arguably the most pointless was there ever was.

She was literally created with the theme of her character being love and truth. She will never be Sarah Connor, and we don’t want her to be!

Like, thank you for Terminator, and most importantly Terminator 2. But kindly fuck off.

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Can we talk about how happy Diana was to see babies?

Like we canonically know how much Wondy loves little kids, but it was so nice to see it in the movie! Especially after the ‘I’m a monster because I’m infertile/one less thing to worry about’ shit we got from AoU!Black Widow (I’m eternally bitter) and all the Strong Female Characters™ who don’t want or even hate kids or are terrible / emotionally-distant mothers.

I hope she got to hold babies, babysit and be someone’s (demi-)godmother. Preferably Etta Candy’s kids.

She would totally personally give or crash school tours to the Louvre, to give them detailed accounts and get the excuse to walk around carrying one kid or style little girls’ hair like the Amazons did with her when she was a kid.

I would like to imagine that by modern times, she had had a few run-ins with sorcerers, one of whom who tried to concoct her evil twin/reflection and instead made Donna Troy, not as a pre-teen but as a child.

She takes Donna and raises her to be good balance between human and Amazon, and she now knows how her mother felt with her as the only child on Themiscyra.

I have so many feelings about this.

God, now I need a Diana/Steve kid!fic with them somehow acquiring baby Donna Troy.

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I feel like one of the most ironically sexist things that happened to women heroes for so long was that they had universal storytelling taken away from them. So, male superheroes could have Lois Lane. They can have love, they can have vulnerability, they can have complexity. But women superheroes or strong women characters had to be, ‘I don’t need anyone, I’m the toughest person in the world.’ That’s not fair to anybody. No human being is an island like that.

Patty Jenkins, on including Steve Trevor in a Wonder Woman film (via captain–kitten)

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But imagine what if diana lives some years, maybe hundreds or thousands years after present protecting the world, and then in a future year, she somehow meets this man, who looks like her first ever man, her first ever love, the one and only captain steve trevor,

and that man is captain james kirk.

Sold.

Somebody draw this meeting

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DC Meets Marvel, Pt. 3

Rather than comparing and competing, here’s a nicer take on what would happen if the DC and Marvel heroes met their counterparts.

3. Diana meets Thor at a superhero meetup party in Avengers Tower once Clark is resurrected and the Justice League is formed. He is staring at the false electrical fireplace with mild disgust and confusion, the only reaction on any of the faces here that she can identify with.

“How underwhelming,” he says when she approaches, staring into his glass jug of beer. “Most of this world is terribly underwhelming.”

“Is it? I find myself constantly surprised by man’s peculiar inventions.”

“I was mostly referring to how watered down their mead is, but I’ll give them that, a good few of their inventions would make dwarves cut their main hands off.”

Frowning, Diana stuck out her hand for the mug. Thor handed it to her, finally looking right at her. She took a sip and her frown deepened. “A substitute.”

"Most here is,” says Thor, pointing to the electrical fireplace, the tasteless bear and the pleather couch she was sitting on. “So much of it is deceptive. It looks the same but it really isn’t.”

“I find that quite clever, the plastic flowers that never wilt, the fake leather that doesn’t smell, the carriages that drive themselves and the food that lives on forever in ice boxes and on shelves.”

“You’ll forgive me if I say that these days I’m not too fond of things that don’t appear as they seem. My brother Loki is quite the trickster.”

“Oh, like Hermes? You are a god, aren’t you?”

“To the people here, I am. A god of thunder.”

“I was given life by the thunder god Zeus,” she points out, excited that someone might come close to understanding the topic of gods, not without giving her odd looks or a sarcastic “Sure,”.

Thor grinned, intrigued. “What realm are you from? I have seen you fight, you would make a great valkyrie.”

“I am an Amazon from the island of Themiscyra. It’s not so much a realm as it is isolated.”

They trade stories, about Themiscyra and Asgard, about each area’s history with mankind, how they are both considered myths turned into stories by the passage of time and growing cynicism of humans. They tell each other of the gods, drawing comparisons between Odin and Zeus, their former human lovers who they would outlive, the uses of their weapons and their impressions of human society.

“Their cities are very fascinating, but after a while the landscape feels very cluttered, it’s hard to see the sky and find anyone anywhere.”

“We have many large structures in Asgard, but none this mashed together as the buildings of New York. It doesn’t help that the architecture, while impressive is --”

“Hideous,” Diana completed.

“Completely! No style, no shine, no cultural design or color. And the cars also get less and less inspired with time.”

Diana quickly told him about the strange designs she saw in 1930s America.

“Just how long ago did they give up horses entirely? We have means of transportation in Asgard, but we still use them.”

“Humans only ride horses for sport nowadays, just like hunting.”

"It’s strange, how they turn parts of their past into pastimes,” says Thor. “Or they are advanced in many places but behind in others.”

“They might say the same about us.”

“True,” Thor agrees. He reaches out his hand. “Thor of Asgard.”

She takes it, returning the grip. “Diana of Themiscyra.”

After then, they keep in regular contact, sharing all human experiences that exasperate them, such as microwave dinners, the television and the dozens of laws that make no sense. Several inside jokes spawn. Thor’s view on most human designs from buildings to fashion to cars to genetically-engineered pets as ‘hideous’ and ‘disappointing’ and Diana’s rants on man-run society. 

As Clark spent several off-days with the Captain and Bruce had day-ins at the manor with Stark, Diana and Thor refused to spend their free time among mankind. In alternating months, Diana would visit Asgard and Thor would come with her to Themiscyra, being the closest thing to Zeus and Ares, he and his accompanying shield-maidens and valkyries were welcomed. She found a friend that reminded her of home in Sif, marveled at the sparkling multicolored landscape and buildings and indulged in drinking contests with Thor.

As a true test of their friendship, Diana let Thor hold her lasso, to really see what was in his heart. Turns out someone as blunt as he was saw little point in lying and just listed off what was currently on his mind. Thor in turn set down his hammer and dared her to pick it up.

It struggled with her at first, then came up in her hand. Thor’s surprise didn’t last, he clapped her on the back and laughed.

Mjölnir and the lasso were regularly traded during war game competitions in both their homelands.

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