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stra-tek

It's a good thing they don't believe in money in the Federation. Because launching the Enterprise F only to decommission it, is a huge fucking waste of money lol.

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This is so true. These ships in Star Trek have lasted over 100 years (NX-01 in "E2") and 1,000 years (ST "Calypso") when the plot demands it, but they're off retiring them after 7 years (1701-A) and 15 (1701-F) just because the plot demands it😂

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It is awful silly. The Enterprise E only got a dozen years or so, too, before whatever happened to it. Which is really just an excuse to have the F in service for it to be decommissioned. The A, I think was a ship rename, at least in beta canon. So it was older. The original was in service for 40+ years at least, 2245-2285. Don't know why that admiral said 20 in TSFS.

How many Excelsior, Miranda and Oberth classes did we see in TNG, At least implying they were 80 years old? I know it was just to recycle expensive models but it established something.

The fleet of today should be back boned by Ambassador and Galaxy and Nebula class. Add in Intrepid and Defiant, Sovereign.

Production costs dictated reusing old models back in TNG/DS9's day (Voyager, being in the Delta Quadrant really didn't have that problem). Even when they built new models TNG especially always seemed shy in using the Nebula and Ambassador ships. (ships in distress were never the former and only the latter once - The Enterprise C. I guess ships in distress had to be older so it was always the mirandas and oberths). They also kept reusing that one shot of the Enterprise meeting Hood whenever they had a transport shot.

Didn't help the first ship that wasn't the Enterprise-D was the Stargazer, a kitbashed Constitution class that had already been mostly decommissioned by the time we saw it, so there went some of the budget. (and they made the best of it with the Victory/Hathaway in season 2, and one half shot in Redemption Pt 2).

Even during season 7 Rick Sternbach had proposed an Ambassador class kitbashed into Nebula/Miranda style ship for the Pegasus but they decided to reuse an Oberth-class instead.

Damn, would have been nice.

And as digital VFX came into play, there were still costs associated with modelling those, and wanting to bring ships previously seen on screen, including the then-newly released First Contact. (once again, didn't save them money as they had to rebuild those models from scratch as they used different software/were unavailable). There was also the criminal non-use of the Sovereign class during DS9/Voyager as to "not confuse audiences" about it being the Enterprise E or not.

I would have loved to see the digital versions of the Wolf 359 ships during DS9's run and more recent versions. The Cheyennes, Springfields, Niagaras to name a few. All ships built in the first half of the 24th Century, many bearing the look and feel of the Enterprise C & D.

Then there's the push in Picard to add more original ships and Star Trek Online ships, with the Sutherland and Ross class being successors to the Nebula and Galaxy classes so we don't feature those anymore. and the Excelsior II class. There are still Sovereign, Akira and Luna class ships at least. (let's not get bogged down on Constitution III classes right now).

Lower Decks and Prodigy have now also come into the mix, with new ship classes we haven't seen anywhere else like the Parliament class USS Vancouver, and the Obena, a mix of Sovereign and Excelsior class. Neither of which have been seen yet in the 25th Century. And no sign of Voyager-A save for the shuttlecrafts. Lower Decks had the Defiant class but no sign of any of them during Picard's time (or anything that looked like a direct successor). Same for the Intrepid-class.

I'm guessing the California-class has also been retired by Star Trek Picard's time?

Which brings me to another point, Some classes you'll find just aren't to the task and are phased out quickly or made in fewer numbers (see the 4 nacelled Nebula variant in sisko's office). The Dominion War saw multiple Mirandas and Excelsiors in one final blaze of glory (oh and I guess Endgame).

But I can't imagine that's what happened to the Enterprise-F, we saw others of the Odyssey class still in service during the Big Battle. Probably should have written the Enterprise-F to be leading the ceremony and be destroyed in-battle if you were dead set on an Enterprise-G (grumble)

I'm rambling now, I'll end by saying would be nice to have one of the animated productions bring back some of those 24th Century designs from TNG that made it on air or not.

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This is one of the greatest things ever. Walk around every single version of the U.S.S. Enterprise in photorealistic 3D in your browser, from the Roddenberry Archive. On a phone you just see wraparound 3D pics. On a PC or laptop you get the full 3D interactive experience. They NEED to make this VR compatible, it'll be beyond words.

There are more Enterprises here than Tumblr will allow me photos of, and more will likely be added.

Here's the TOS Enterprise, which appears in several incarnations ("The Cage", "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and TOS proper as well as TAS with the second turbolift!), has the correct original graphics and is perfect.

This is the bridge from the unmade Star Trek: Phase II series (whose pilot episode "In Thy Image" was rewritten to become Star Trek: The Motion Picture), with it's legendary big comfy command sofa seat and tactical display bubble!

The Motion Picture, such an accurate recreation that there's even a very faint flicker on the rear-projection animated screens as seen in the movie.

Enterprise NX-01, looking exactly as it did in "Broken Bow"

Recognise this? It's the briefing room of Discovery season 2's version of the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701. Although at the front of the saucer on the "real" ship, here it's off the second bridge door which may well be where the set was IRL.

I wasn't expecting modern Trek to be represented equally as the originals in this project, but it is. This is the Enterprise from Strange New Worlds, with Pike's Ready Room located just off the bridge.

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. My favourite version of the classic bridge, as a kid I drew all these control panels and stuck them on my bedroom walls. And now I can look around and look at them all close-up! They've even replicated the noticable TVs stuffed into the panels for the more complex animated screens.

The Enterprise-C bridge from "Yesterday's Enterprise". This one has always fascinated me, being a low-budget TV set (formerly the Enterprise-D battle bridge, originally built from the rain-damaged TMP set's back wall and redressed endlessly though TNG) representing TNG's immediate predecessor. In the episode they mostly shoot the back wall and imply the consoles make a huge circle, but here you can see the set's real dimensions and the weirdness of the classic movie helm/nav console in front of the TNG con/ops panels. I love it.

You know how much I love the Kelvin movies, so seeing this was amazing. For some reason the consoles don't have their screens lit (hopefully this'll be fixed soon), but you can see the saucer under the window and it's shiny and amazing.

The last thing I expected was the U.S.S. Titan-A/Enterprise-G bridge, but it's here. And the lights are on.

Other bridges available to explore which I'm out of pictures to show: The Enterprise-D (of course), Enterprise XCV-330 (the ringship, based on concept art for the unmade non-Trek series "Starship"), the Planet of the Titans U.S.S. Enterprise (again, based on concept art for a cool multi-levelled set) and the "launch" U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 (based on the very first piece of TOS bridge set concept art), the Enterprise-E, the Enterprise-F (seen on viewscreen for all of 2 minutes in Picard) and the U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656!

Take a bow lads, you've done good. Now just add VR support!

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So from Picard season 3, we know the Enterprise E only served 2373 (?) To at best 2386. The F serves 2386 to 2403.

Prodigy is going to likely show us the Voyager-A as of 2385ish, come it's second season. The original being decommissioned after 7 long hard historic years in the DQ.

Now there's an Easter egg on screen in Picard 2403 of the Voyager B! Meaning the A is only in service 2385ish to sometime 2400.

The Titan was 2379-2398 and then torn down and reformatted into the Titan A as of 2402.

Why are late 24th/early 25th century ships so brief for this world?

Yes, the Ent D only made it 7 years. The Defiant less than 5. NX-01 10 years, 5 of them time skipped to the finale. But those were particular exceptions it felt like.

The Excelsior and Miranda class was always presumed to have been in service for DECADES. But now it seems like they just kept building them and throwing them out after 15-20 years? At the maximum?

It just feels wrong.

Feels weird to have so many As and Bs so quickly. Especially since Voyager J is 800 years away.

The Enterprise legacy had the B and C for 2293 to sometime 2330s, and the C was 2330s to her loss in the 2340s? Then a big gap of decades until the D in 2360s.

Weird!

The original Enterprise was 2245-2285 or so. 40 YEARS, multiple refits. And that was implied to be the standard of the day.

We gotta churn out more models! more models!

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Star Trek Starships as Girlfriends

U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 (TOS)

Solid. Dependable. Maybe a little Plain Jane. She showed you the ropes and you're never going to forget her.

U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-A

Everyone says she's the most beautiful of them all, and she knows it.

U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D

Sensuous, curvaceous... and highly unstable. Say one wrong word and it's warp core breach time.

U.S.S. Defiant NX-74205

Squat. Stubby. Completely. Fucking. Insane. Even look at her the wrong way and she's chasing you with pulse phaser cannons blasting.

U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656

She seemed nice enough. You had a date lined up but she got lost on the way. There were search parties sent out and everything.

Enterprise NX-01

A lot older than she looks. She'll only give you the bare basics, but she does them well.

U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 (Kelvin Universe)

She's big all over, you kinda suspect she's on steroids and HGH. Loads of fun to be around, but every night out is a catastrophe ending with her in hospital and hundreds of dollars worth of property damage.

U.S.S. Discovery NCC-1031

She's got a nice big booty, but she's into hallucinogenics, keeps popping up in completely random places and seems to change personality every year.

La Sirena NAR-93131

Smol and covered in tattoos, gets knocked down but always gets back up again. Carries lots of emotional scars.

U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 (SNW)

She reminds you of someone else you loved dearly, and it's complicated because she's definitely nice but you're not sure if it's her you want or if you'd just do anything to have your ex back.

Oh, and before you ask? The U.S.S. Protostar is too young for you.

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where’s Cerritos >:(

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