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RIP to this trio I guess- after everything they went through they still drifted apart- it makes sense BUT IM SO HEARTBROKEN 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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SO ANNE IS OFFICIALLY DEAD AND GOT REPLACE BY HER REPLICA??? WHAT THE FUCK NOOOO☠☠☠☠☠

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People saying shit like " I was abused and didn't end up like Chloe and abused others so she doesn't deserve a redemption arc" are the most selfish people out there tbh. People deal with abuse differently, some do become abusers themselves and some don't. The fact Chloe was actually changing for the better back in season 3 showed how she wanted to change. I'm not saying that her accusing ladybug later on was right. It wasn't. But, again. Chloe really needed an adult figure to praise her for doing right and love her like her mother never did and nobody cared enough or understood the situation she was in. The fact the writers keep using her as a villain every two seconds is just sad at this point

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Remember that special episode in season two when it was Christmas and Adrien went missing and at the end of the episode Gabriel invited all of his friends to celebrate Christmas with him? Yea,,, damn I actually liked him at that moment. A redemption arc didn't sound like a clownery back then.

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What if this frog was spring's mother? and when Andrias turned evil she was the one to steal the music box and put it on earth? And he found out so he sent the birds to kill her? Haha just kidding,, unless 😳😳

love this theory but one problem: this is image is from like a thousand years ago, as Andrias said, plus her image appeared on a supposed viking vase on earth so most likely an old ancestor, but not Sprig and Polly’s mom

I here you and tbh it makes sense, but do we know how long do the frog people live?

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What if this frog was spring's mother? and when Andrias turned evil she was the one to steal the music box and put it on earth? And he found out so he sent the birds to kill her? Haha just kidding,, unless 😳😳

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Something I want to point out: KING ANDRIAS DOES CARE FOE MARCEY BUT IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY A REDEMPTION ARC. Thats exactly why I love him as a villain. He hopes there was another way, or another person that could be used but at the end of the day he obeys his master. That's what makes him such a good villain, knowing that what he is doing is wrong and is basically choosing to be evil. In miraculous for example, Gabriel sees his son as property and therefore doesn't see his abusive behavior as wrong. King andrias knows exactly what is he doing. Him being conflicted and aware makes him even a better villain, but it doesn't mean he deserves a redemption arc.

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Thomas is just dragging the show with more what if episodes so tbh fuck the canon reveal, I'm just taking the new reveal as canon. If Thomas wants us to lose hype for the real thing I will just settle with the fake.

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Oh no,, yall,, not gabriel stans saying he deserves a redemption arc for simply asking his son how is he doing. That's the bare minimum yall??? And the fact Adrien mental state had to deteriorate that much for gabriel to even notice,,, its literally child neglect. The only thing Gabriel is getting is jail.

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Not thomas throwing a tantrum like a 7 year old after he made another boring episode just to drag the show. The episode was literally just marinette crushing on Adrien and MAYBE we got a small hint for foreshadowing. A grown ass man cant take criticism,,,,

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