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I am always compelled to save this woman's posts

I'm so sorry girl, but women cannot simply talk themselves out of having a sexuality and romantic partnership is not a "sliver", nor a "cherry on top". 🤮

This shit is super annoying, because, I get it, it's meant to be supportive of separatism, but really it just ends up being dehumanising.

Women are human beings; the vast majority of human beings have sex drives and enjoy falling in love and being able to have a romantic partner.

Trying to deny this, as if all women are some sort of alien race with zero sex drive is insulting. Telling grown adults to find romance in their friendships is stupid; A. we all know women already do that, and B. acting like sexual intimacy isn't a big part of romance makes you sound like an idiot child.

The need for separatism is profound. Woman and girls need to get serious and start only going to female doctors, buying goods from female-owned shops, buying property with and renting from other women.

But, once again, all I see are these bizarre posts attempting to shame or otherwise negatively encourage women and girls to stop having sex/romance with men. As if that's the most important branch of this fight.

Y'all are fucking twisted. Men own the entire world, yet our big revolt is down to voting with our vaginas? For real, what is wrong with you guys?

When straight women decide to be separatists, they must struggle with the loss of having a romantic partner. They are, in fact, entitled to grieve over that.

In any case, women not wanting to give up their sexual and romantic pursuits is not an issue separatism faces, and I am genuinely worried about those of you who think it is.

I repeat; men own everything. WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.

Women need to be fighting to get into higher positions of power, everywhere in the world. Women need to be amassing resources and sharing them with other women and girls. Women need to be building community and performing activism and getting into all corners of business and taking over shit.

It simply does not matter who anyone fucks/ falls in love with along the way, and anyone who think otherwise DOES NOT KNOW THE HISTORY OF FEMINISM.

Grow up.

Such a pathetic take, especially the tags "what if BLACK PEOPLE did this??"

Black people, especially during the eras of slavery and jim crow, had separate communities away from white people already, so 'what if black people refused sex with white people?!' it was ALREADY ILLEGAL for them to mix. they used other means because they had other problems.

Women partner with men in EVERY race EVERY religion EVERY economic class EVERY geographical location, and are therefore being abused and exploited constantly- that's why refusing to partner with them is extremely important and powerful, it would rip society in half. Not even remotely comparable to black people calling for this against white people I can't believe you said "grow up" after such as mindless, politically inept take- and then encourage people to learn more about history, damn girl history?? you don't even have the most basic common sense.

And all this weak 'men own everything' 'men have all the power that's the REAL problem'

If we took power and money and property away from men this instant, men would still be the same on the inside.

If you're waiting until men are weak to fuck them and love them you are STILL planning on fucking and loving the people who hate you and would be willing to take away your rights, your autonomy, your dignity, your wealth, your labor.

A homeless man has nothing, but he is just as likely to want to abuse you as the president and it's been that way for all time.

You're polluting political spaces where women are trying to raise class consciousness with your whining. It's counter productive to feminism. If you're feeling sad, take it to some other space, but raising complaints to the women trying to rise up and get something done is just so immensely selfish.

PS-You want to encourage women to learn about feminism, how about you give it a shot https://qz.com/958346/history-shows-that-sex-strikes-are-a-surprisingly-effective-strategy-for-political-change

Can't believe you think 'voting with your vagina' is some type of stupidity when not only has it accomplished things in the past, but your vagina is the crux of your oppression. OBVIOUSLY if women withheld that from men it would have significant impact.

EDIT: and to clarify, i'm aware that article claims a broad sex strike 'wouldn't work' without clear demands, however it should be obvious that i disagree. women rejecting men en masse because of their behavior is a clear enough message.

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lemurchick

Today russian goverment banned "childfree propaganda" with the law fining non-complying citizens up to equivalent of 4k dollars and non-complying organizations up to 51k dollars.

This law prohibits any public (for now; soon it could be used even for DMs) statements where childless life seen as a better or even equal lifestyle to having children. It forbids saying that it's okay for women to have abortions. It bans any advices to not have children if women don't have enough space, money, health (!) or any other reasons (like going-on war hello?) except when you're talking about monkhood celibate.

This is in line with Putin's signed order "to save and protect traditional values" which already led to banning any mention of LGBT people and had people arrested and sentenced just for organising private gay events or heavily fined for posting a photo of you with your same-sex partner holding hands or screenshot of tv characters kissing. Two female police officers friends were fired because they left messsages under each other photos "showing simpathy" (not even flirting).

And now this. Of course it's not going to affect men who proudly say online how women with children are second sort or calling mothers protecting their children crazy "butI'mAMother"s (popular derogatory term), or advocate to cancel child support, or doing anything else that actually turning women away from considering motherhood. It's going to affect feminists first and foremost because it is us who relentlessly advocate how marrying men and having children in this society is a trap.

And they plan to ban feminism next (they were tryng to do this for years at this point) and also... eh... egoistical lifestyle propaganda whatever this means.

Crazy times but I think we will prevail. Soviet feminists refused to keep silent and were called dissidents and extradited. For now not one feminist channel, podcast, page or community I know is planning to close.

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anyway yeah DELETE YOUR FUCKING ADVERTISING IDS

Android:

Settings ➡️ Google ➡️ all services ➡️ Ads ➡️ Delete advertising ID

(may differ slightly depending on android version and manufacturer firmware. you can't just search settings for "advertising ID" of course 🔪)

iOS:

Settings ➡️ privacy ➡️ tracking ➡️ toggle "allow apps to request to track" to OFF

and ALSO settings ➡️ privacy ➡️ Apple advertising ➡️ toggle "personalized ads" to OFF

more details about the process here via the EFF

On my Samsung Galaxy this setting is Security and Privacy -> Privacy -> Other Privacy Settings -> Ads -> Delete Advertising ID

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Lmaooo. LOL even.

HoW aM I sUpPoSEd to LeArN fRoM mY miSTaKesssss

School clearly did nothing for you anyway.

Fucked around.

Found out

As we Canadians would say

Beauty!

Consequences

"You're actually going to ruin my life" No, YOU ruined YOUR life when YOU sent those messages to who-knows-how-many women.

i'm just a kid! an innocent little child! (in college)

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For any women looking at the radical feminist 4B or 6B4T movements and wondering how to commit, here are the tenants:

4B stands for:

1. no sex with biological men (비섹스; bisekseu)

2. no giving birth (비출산; bichulsan)

3. no dating men (비연애; biyeonae)

4. no marriage with men (비혼; bihon)

To add the tenants of 6B4T, you must also commit to:

5. no purchase of sexist products (비소비; bisobi)

6. fully supporting other single women who are practicing and committed to the movement (비돕비; bidopbi)

And fully reject:

1. strict beauty standards (탈코르셋; talkoreuset)

2. hyper-sexual depictions of women (탈오타쿠; tarotaku)

3. religion (탈종교; taljonggyo)

4. idol culture (탈아이돌; taraidol)

My wish and my hope is that many more American libfems will genuinely join us radfems in committing to the 6B4T or 4B movements.

However, please don’t just toss these terms out indiscriminately. These movements stand for very specific protest behaviors and commitments.

(And perhaps this movement is not for you, that’s okay! It’s a big commitment and perhaps you’re not ready. Radicalization is a process and not everyone is at the same place. So, no judgement!)

But please, please my libfem sisters, don’t pretend to be 4B or 6B4T without a true intention and desire to commit. It won’t help the movement, and you’ll just harm genuine efforts both locally and globally.

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femenaces

taking suggestions for 4B / 6b4t inspired sticker phrases. I'll create at least 8 in this style (to fit on an 8.5x11in standard paper size) and put the file up for download when i'm done.

You can buy really cheap sticker paper that goes in a regular printer so it's a really easy way to mint gazillions of stickers.

Second call for sticker phrase ideas because I really need some suggestions lol

"He splits the rent. Does he split the chores?"

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pay-what-you-can (free) stickers with QR code directing to plancpills(dot)org

  • ships free to US while supplies last
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Fast fashion and make up is out.

I'm failing on the 4b front. I'm like a 1 b.

But with the new b I almost make it back to a 3b.

Transcription of TikTok by user @lebab_bob

Hello US sister who disappointed because of the election and who want to get rid of all of the men, who want to boycott “The Man”. Welcome!

Today I’m going to explain, briefly explain about: 4B, 5B, and 6B, and also nowadays comes out 7Bs.

First of all, for the 4B, it is not that hard at all. It’s just not having a Date with a man, not having uh Sex with a man, not having uh a Baby with a man, and not having Marriage with a man. That’s all you have to do. And…. nowadays, South Korean women expanded this 4B as a way that we could continuously do this movement. So…which means by the 6B comes out.

For 6B, there are two more “Bs” with the 4Bs, and there’s two more. So, those two would be: B for B! So…The women that are doing the 4B movement help other women that are doing the 4B movement. Women always have a pay gap, have discriminated by the society, have a glass ceiling. All of those have a great impact for women to have hardship on their economic status. So that makes us to sometimes just compromise and have a marriage with a man.

So, for women who are doing the 4B movement, and should help each others so that we could, uh… gain the status, and we could help other women doing the mentor, and that’s all about the B for B. B helps B!

And next one would be the: not spending the money to the pink tax company, pink ta- pink tax products. So, for the pink tax products, the representative one would be the makeups. And also some of the… uh, companies who are highly misogynistic, and there are a lot, a lot of companies.

For example: Nikes. There was an issue ‘bout the sports and, um, like they discriminated the women who have a baby. Like, if you find, dig on it, there are so many companies that are highly misogynistic, and also they have some pink tax on it. It’s more based on doing, like, not using money to the pink tax products. But also not spending money to the um misogynistic company, and try to use the money to the company that have uh women in the CEO and all of that.

And next, I will introduce the 5B. 5B (is like really recent one) is Not giving emotional labor to the man. Not giving emotional labor, especially to the men who are highly toxic, uh who are sexist, and all of that. So, for my example, in my, um, videos: if there’s some comments about my appearance or if there are like comments stuff highly un-, um, unrelated to my video, like, my contents, I just delete it right away. Just not giving, not like um, answering to the trolls and not using your energy, and using your like emotional labor to them. So this is really important cause um, women are always taught to be kind to the man, to… use their energy to the man. Also to explain everything really, like, specifically about um, oppression to the man.

And they just question us, just because they just want us to get exhausted. And that really happens! And that really happens for the women movement and lot of women just gave up because they are tired of answering all of those an- all those questions or all those, like um, bad comments.

So, it’s just ignoring the toxic man in your life, and just ghosting them in your life.

And… the next one would be 7Bs, which is just adding all of 3 ones (the one I explained for 6Bs, the two of the… B for B: helping the other Bs who are doing the 4B movement or all of the B movement. And not spending money to the pink tax products or the misogynistic companies, and also not answering to the trolls, uh, not spending your emotional labor to the man, especially for the toxic man.) So adding all of these three to the 4, and that becomes the 7Bs.

And… actually, there are some women who are actually doing this. Um, 4B, 6B, uh, 5B, 7Bs in South Korea, that is really happening. And there are lot of accounts that, uh, especially write for 4B on their accounts profile, so that they could show that other women who are doing, like, showing off that “I am actually doing the 4B movement”.

So, this is all for you guys, and I hope, uh, we can finally get off of the patriarchy system and fight back to these highly, highly misogynistic culture. Thanks.

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Transcribed November 9th, 2024 by captainvhdvhd

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I can NOT fucking believe i am watching this shit happen in real time.

Overnight I've watched the wiki page for 4B go from a single line of text describing it as a feminist movement and four more lines beneath it explaining the rules, to now it being a several paragraph screed about how it is a terf riddled, transphobic, transwomen hating movement made intentionally and with the sole purpose to stop women from having sex with transwomen.

The article editing history shows this all being done overnight. It also shows it mostly being done by a single user who INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH has been flagged multiple times for getting into editing wars on the CIRCUMCISION and FORESKIN wiki pages!!!! You cannot make this shit up!!

American women only briefly floated the idea that they shouldn't have sex with anyone that can get them pregnant in a time where pregnancy could be a death sentence and like fucking LIGHTNING these folks come out the gate to shut it down in every way possible.

I hate men so much

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mkantor

This pisses me off so much. And the page has been locked to prevent vandalism. THE VANDALISM ALREADY FUCKING HAPPENED when some TIM accused 4Bers of “gender essentialism!”

Since this is quickly becoming a popular post and more folks are seeing this happening in real time, I think it would be good to take a look at the individual whose been diligently "correcting" the information on this article since well into last night.

Meet OntologicalTree.

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This is not a drill I just heard Fox News (conservative grandfather) complaining about talk of the 4B Movement post-the election. They were complaining about ridiculous liberals being upset they lost or however they were saying it and then I heard them bring up 4B so I rewinded it and copied the male newscaster's words below.

"On TikTok, self-proclaimed feminists- well they're shaving their heads- I don't know why, I assume out of anger, they're boycotting sex, and procreation, and relationships, and marriage. This is something they're calling the 4b movement [laughs to himself]. I can't make this up. Viewer warning: what you're about to see is pretty disturbing. I didn't make it up, I promise- take a look. [Plays videos of women promoting the 4B movement on I think TikTok]"

I know interest is rising among American women on Instagram for example but didn't realize word of the movement growing in the U.S. had made it to conservatives complaining on national TV. Let's Go!!

there's a shit ton of recent articles published by mainstream sources about the surge in the 4b movement in the days since the election.

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