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KOTPOTA Mae and the Heroine's Journey

As I've been thinking about Mae and what her journey could be. During that, I was reintroduced to Maureen Murdock's Heroine's Journey to a TEE. Allow me to explain:

HEROINE SEPARATES FROM THE FEMININE: The “feminine” is often a mother/mentor figure or a societally prescribed feminine/marginalized/outsider role.

Going off Freya's HC, Mae lost both her parents to the same mission that she ended up going on and never came back. This would leave Mae an orphan (possibly since a young age), forcing herself to lose her innocence and throwing herself into the underground human philosophy and mission

IDENTIFICATION WITH THE MASCULINE & GATHERING OF ALLIES. The heroine embraces a new way of life. This often involves choosing a path that is different than the heroine’s prescribed societal role, gearing up to “fight” an organization/role/group that is limiting the heroine’s life options, or entering some masculine/dominant-identity defined sphere.

With the loss of her parents, Mae took upon herself to make herself strong: learning hand-to-hand combat, weapons training, psychological strength. All of it to the point that can be on the next mission, avenging her parents and helping Humans reclaim domination.

ROAD/TRIALS AND MEETING OGRES & DRAGONS. The heroine encounters trials and meets people who try to dissuade the heroine from pursuing their chosen path, or who try to destroy the heroine.

This is Mae during the entire course of the movie: she's lost her team, hungry/cold/starving and has to face so many obstacles to finally get to the bunker and finally get her hands on the Satellite transmission disk.

EXPERIENCING THE BOON OF SUCCESS. The heroine overcomes the obstacles in their way. (This is typically where the hero’s journey ends.)

Even with coming face-to-face with things that shake her worldview (especially with Noa and Raka), Mae is too deep in the "masculine" aka the underground human ideology to forget the mission. Completing her mission, even though she might be feeling what that might've cost her.

And while this is where the movie ends, it's not the end of this journey! So, now time for some speculations:

HEROINE AWAKENS TO FEELINGS OF SPIRITUAL ARIDITY/DEATH. The heroine’s new way of life (attempting the masculine/dominant identity) is too limited. Their success in this new way of life is either temporary, illusory, shallow, or requires a betrayal of self over time.

Based on the fact that Mae was exposed to the outside world, she's possibly not allowed back in the bunker. Making her entirely alone, no longer able to exist in their world or Noa's world (for now). And while she can claim to have no regrets, being completely isolated can start to eat at away at a person after a while.

INITIATION & DESCENT TO THE GODDESS. The heroine faces a crisis of some sort in which the new way of life is insufficient, and the heroine falls into despair. All of the masculine/dominant-group strategies have failed them.

This is where her and Noa can cross paths again. Whether by choice or by outside circumstances pushing them together again (I think the latter given her pride, identity crisis, and trying to justify her existence)

HEROINE URGENTLY YEARNS TO RECONNECT WITH THE FEMININE. The heroine wants to, but is unable to return to their initial limited state/position.

This second journey, this is where even more cracks begin showing as she's part of a group again. Mae having to come to the dark part of her that realizes that she feels like a scared little girl that lost her parents and wants a place to call home.

HEROINE HEALS THE MOTHER/DAUGHTER SPLIT. The heroine reclaims some of their initial values, skills, or attributes (or those of others like them) but now views these traits from a new perspective.

This would be the time rather than running away, Mae leans into the parts of herself she's rediscovered. This could be further perpetuated by some kind of betrayal from the underground humans that also reinforce how totally embracing EVERYTHING about them was a mistake. (And maybe a literal healing of a mother/daughter split since Freya's HC has mom MIA and not for sure dead)

HEROINE HEALS THE WOUNDED MASCULINE WITHIN. The heroine makes peace with the “masculine” approach to the world as it applies to them.

This is where Mae makes it known that she's now on Noa's side (human and ape coexistence) completely. And now using her skills that she learned from the bunker that made her hard, is now being used for love and protection rather than hate.

HEROINE INTEGRATES THE MASCULINE & FEMININE. In order to face the world/future with a new understanding of themselves and the world/life, the heroine integrates the “masculine” and “feminine” qualities/perspectives. This permits the heroine to see through binaries and to interact with a complex world that includes the heroine but is also larger than their personal lifetime or their geographical/cultural milieu.

This gets Mae to her final form; she's gone through a complete journey and is now the person that makes her happy and fulfilled. There will still be challenges in the future, but she's no longer alone.

And I hope this mean she lives a long life, but I know these movies like to hurt us. But I hope to remain optimistic XD

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It’s really interesting to me that for the most part in KOTPOTA, I think with the exception of the really oddly placed scene of Mae asking Noa if he likes Soona, I can almost rationalize Noa and Mae’s entire relationship and arc into enemies to reluctant allies to friends (eventually, though I’ll concede to a possibility of them ending as enemies again), and that’s it. Friends with a very close bond, mind you, and with experiences only the two of them can understand. Platonic with a capital p as much as I have become severely allergic to that word for various reasons. They’re both continuously challenged in their views about the other, sometimes positively, sometimes negatively, and in the end we’re left with the big fat question of the trilogy; can apes and humans live together in peace? It’s less about Noa and Mae as individuals and more what they represent to each other, and it could very well be left at that. I can see that, as much as I love the possibility of LOVE between the two being at least a partial answer to that question. They can keep it platonic all they want and I can’t point to any one scene in the movie and be like ‘wait!! this has romantic undertones/overtones and can’t be anything else!’

They even end it with Noa taking Soona to the observatory, somewhere very important to him. As unsatisfying and out of no where that relationship came from, I took it as the movie telling us point blank to NOT ship the ape with the human girl no matter how much chemistry is oozing out of the performances. Fine, sure, I’ll just ship it for fun and accept that they’re not trying for a romantic angle.

Except.

EXCEPT.

What is with that deleted scene? A tight, tense hug from behind? And, again, I’m a rational girl over here. I know that Noa wrapping his arms around Mae was so that the other two apes couldn’t smell her and detect them. He placed his hand over her head to cover the wound. When he released her and looked at his hand too, he could have looked at her blood and thought a number of things there. He could have been grossed out, he could have marveled at the idea that humans bleed the same as apes, he could even maybe feel guilt. Him protecting her like that doesn’t even have to necessarily be about him being protective of her specifically; they were both in danger, he was protecting them both.

The giant elephant in the room is that they didn’t have to block the scene out like that at, or even create it at all. The reasons why Noa wrapped her in his arms don’t matter, his thoughts on the situation afterwards don’t even matter as much as the director creating a scenario where Mae has to be held by him at all, and that’s driving me a little crazy over here. It’s like the scene was only created for us to go ‘aww’ at.

That’s not even touching on the still of them embracing or whatever funky little thing they got going on there. It’s only disheartening that they’re deleted scenes, like any romantic undertones they decided to walk back. To which I say, LAME! It might be controversial but it sure would get a lot of people talking about it! To me as well it just raises the stakes that much higher if we’re even more invested in their relationship, and people love romance, so I hope they just decide to not be cowards and milk what they got.

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Welcome To The Monkey House

I swear I didn't mean to write this much. I only wanted to know the title of the novel, but noooooo. I just had to overanalyze this single moment in the movie.

Remember this book Mae picks up?

I had to squint at this shot for longer than I'd like to admit. I could only see the author's first name, and I struggled to pick up the last name when Trevathan said it. Forget about making out the actual title. Fortunately, after a bit of digging, I found it! It's 'Welcome To The Monkey House' by Kurt Vonnegut. Very fitting, given Mae's circumstances. Welcome to the monkey house indeed, Mae, haha!

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"When we were playing that relationship, it really felt like Mae was watching him and just kind of terrified of how much of herself she could see in him [...] and how much of a mirror was being held up between the two of them."

"So when I was playing that, there were some scenes that aren't in the film that were quite pivotal for me personally, that I really feel they connected because the people that they've loved have been killed by the same apes."

"She has to go forward with what she's been meant to do her whole life [...] but it's made more difficult by that relationship with Noa. I think it's been made more painful because of that. So yeah, it's very interesting what they do for one another." -Freya Allan.

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So they call Mae "Nova" when they believed her to be just this feral human incapable of thought. Fun fact, an actual nova steals material from its companion star—much how Mae stole from Noa more than once in the film for survival.

And a supernova is an explosion that happens when a star dies. The aftermath of its death is crucial for the formation of new stars and planets, for the evolution of the universe as a whole. (Mae's mission is crucial for the perseverance of her kind)

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I saw kotpota twice but I’m still blanking on some of the details re: Mae’s backstory. She was with a group of people who were immune, including her mom, who were tasked to get that doohickey for the satellites and they were all killed except her. I cannot remember for the life of me if she said her mom was actually with her though or if she just died at another time.I’ve been reading some fic and meta and just didn’t wanna get in confused for something that may just be headcanon but I’m pretty sure that’s what happened.

Anyway all that to say the parallel of Noa losing his father and being forced into a role of leadership in order to save his clan while Mae loses her mom and is the only one who can carry out this task to help save human kind is *chefs kiss*. I wish I wish I WISH though that after she partially told Noa an abridged version of her backstory that he told her his father was also killed by Proximus’s crew, so we could see that understanding of each other go both ways. Maybe next movie? Maybe in a deleted scene?? Please let it be a deleted scene. I crave these two showing on screen that they are the only ones in the world who can really understand each other, that’s seriously their entire draw for me.

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NOA AND MAE ARE NEVER BEATING THE ROMANCE ALLEGATIONS 😆😭

vid by @dewiidrop on Tiktok

Even Tiktok got crazy over them. The comments had me gagging. 😫

“deadass like why did I feel like they was about to fuck the whole time” comment got me 😭

Wes what have you done 😆 The chemistry got us all feral for them. Whatever hes doing- let him cook!!

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