I was at work when I was thinking about people’s arguments about Obi-Wan “telling” Luke he had to kill his father and how wrong that was and whatever. Which like, okay, if you don’t think about the implications, about what he means and the underlining of what he’s saying, it does sound terrible. And for a while, I thought people’s opinion on that was whether they thought about how Obi-Wan means that Luke has to be prepared he might have to kill his father because his father will try to kill him (and he did).
I thought about Obi-Wan during Revenge of the Sith and how he said the same thing. He has the same conversation with Yoda. And I’m sure someone has talked about this or whatever and it’s probably not even my first time talking about it but it’s something I was really thinking about today during my shift.
Obi-Wan tells Yoda he cannot kill Anakin after the master tells him to go face his former apprentice and Yoda tells him he’s gone. Anakin isn’t there anymore. Which is true. People like to say that Anakin went dark side on Mustafar but let’s face it - he was so far gone during the siege of the Temple. He murdered babies and children.
Sure, he could have come back to the light afterwards on Mustafar but honestly, he fell during the siege. It is surprising that people even debate this.
But Obi-Wan tells Yoda that he just can’t do it. And honestly, we find that he’s right. I’m sure most Star Wars fans in this type of discourse know how the Obi-Wan and Anakin duel was choreographed. Obi-Wan is fighting on a defense which, yes, is his specialty, but also he’s trying to wear Anakin out so he can calm down. The choreographer related this to an angry girlfriend and the boyfriend waiting it out.
But when the time comes, Obi-Wan cannot kill Anakin. I’m not here to debate whether or not he should have or whatever. I know there is a lot of mixed feelings about it.
Anyways. Luke says near the same thing when faced with this information as well. And honestly, that’s really hard; I get that. I can’t even imagine being faced with that kind of choice. And he doesn’t even know the extent of the crimes Vader has committed - against the troopers, the Jedi, the galaxy.
I completely understand Luke’s dilemma (even though he’s never really known his father but that’s not really a part of this) but what people seem to overlook is that Obi-Wan was faced with this near exact dilemma. Luke loves his father, even though he’s never known him. Obi-Wan loved Anakin and he actually knew him. It’s not a comparison on love; I’m just making a point.
Obi-Wan was sent to face Anakin/Vader and even though he was on the defensive the entire time trying to buy time for Anakin to chill out, he still had to make the choice - as horrifying as it was - to immobilize him. And in the end, Obi-Wan couldn’t bring himself to kill Anakin.
And guess what? Anakin/Vader spends the next two decades terrorizing the galaxy, hunting down jedi and committing countless murders.
So yeah, Luke is faced with this same dilemma, same choice. And we can argue or talk about why Luke succeeded in saving Anakin and Obi-Wan didnt until we are blue in the face but that’s not the point or the topic I’m talking about. Obi-wan doesn’t want Luke to make the same mistake as him and he knows that Vader will try to kill him, regardless of relation at this time.
And he’s right. Vader does try to kill Luke.
So when Obi-Wan says this-
He knows exactly what he’s talking about. Because the Emperor won the first time when it was Obi-Wan. The Emperor won because Anakin was so crazed and so angry and power hungry, Obi-Wan could neither save him or, in the end, kill him.
There is no reason why Obi-Wan/Ben should think that Vader can/could come back to the light, although we all know he wanted that and so the other way is death. Obi-Wan had failed and the Emperor had won. The galaxy was plunged into horror and darkness. Luke is fighting for it and Obi-Wan doesn’t want Luke to fail like he did. And if you think that Obi-Wan was displeased and unhappy that Vader/Anakin did get saved/came back to the light… then I don’t think you know Obi-Wan or Anakin’s characters very well.
I probably could have a more cohesive and easier to understand thought process and I’m probably missing a ton of what I thought about and points that I made but this is what I have and I thought I’d share it. Interestingly, I find that generally the same people who get mad at Obi-Wan for not making sure Anakin was dead are the same people who seem to be mad at Obi-Wan for telling Luke he very well may have to kill Vader if it comes to that. So, like, I dunno man.
This stuff just kinda makes me sad cause these poor kids with their lives all jacked up.