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Defender Of Severus Snape

@severusdefender / severusdefender.tumblr.com

Except when he's wrong. Sideblog, only posts Severus Snape. Every Severus pairing, friendship or other is accepted here. Note: We are a sideblog and cannot follow you, individual members may do so from their own accounts though.
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“Remus is better than severus bc he could have been bitter and let the past ruin his life uwu”

Severus was preparing for war since he was around 17. First w V, then with D. When V poofed, D specifically said that they couldnt be sure that V was dead, and they kept preparing for a war they weren’t sure was going to happen. Thats 24/7 hypervigilence and hyperawareness and plans a thru z of failsafes, active defense for 20-ish years while being a full time teacher to an army of civilian puberty machines.

I’m NOT saying lupin had it easy, as a werewolf in a culture that wants him dead. I’m saying that he has been violently domesticated to be obedient and quiet in a perpetual state of fear, living with and depending on the kindness of people who could kill him at any time, ever since sirius lured a child into the shrieking shack while he wasn’t lucid and could have murdered someone and gotten killed executed.

I’m saying that i interpret this chain of events and remus’ primary defense for almost 20 years to be meek and submissive and as non-threatening as he can, to avoid being put down.

I’m saying that there is a vast difference in mindset and conditioning, over a period of 20 odd years, between aggressively and quietly preparing to fight and win a war in the shadows, and leading a quiet unassuming civilian life with citizens who can legally murder you at any moment.

I’m saying that severus had to cultivate controlled aggression and ruthlessness, and sacrifice everything at the drop of a hat, and remus had to stomp down every single natural mammalian survival and self-defense instinct. Being territorial or angry or god forbid resentful at being treated like a walking time bomb, that served no purpose.

Remus seems to some like a coward, and it’s true, bc he’s a CIVILIAN. We’re all cowards, and it’s not a bad thing bc we want to live our lives in a community and fit in and be safe. Severus is a soldier first and a teacher last; his first priority is that his charges are Not Dead, not Happy And Stable.

(Unlike mcgonagall, now there’s a professor with rotten perspective, but that’s a story for another day)

Im saying there is nothing about remus that you should dare romanticize. He’s not a perfect boo with a tragic life who remained pure and sweet despite his hardships. He’s a fucking 35 year old (ish when introduced) grown ass man with a severe but manageable condition in a world who wants him exterminated. He had shitty roommates as a kid that did more harm than good with his self esteem and moral compass.

He is what i would call “pathetic” in that his entire life is a fucking inescapable tragedy and instead of giving him the compassion he deserves, 90% of remus fans will coo at how he “isn’t bitter or mean or angry and got over his problems” dont make me laugh

Rant over ps (cat gif)

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I have a controversial opinion and that’s that Snape being horrible to his students and incredibly biased in favor of Slytherins was actually a bad cover. Because if I was a death eater, I might be wondering why the fuck Dumbledore was keeping a former death eater favoring Slytherins and abusing his favorite Gryffindors around? Like, I’m sure there are other potions teachers around. If snape wasn’t a spy for Dumbledore, he wouldn’t be potions master. So if I saw a terrible teacher who was a former death eater retaining his job despite his horrid behavior, I might just believe that Dumbledore had reasons for it and get suspicious.

If anything, Snape should’ve been an overwhelmingly neutral teacher telling Slytherins he wished he could favor them in private but would be fired if he did. Or even treating all of his students with strictness but favoring Slytherins slightly. That way it would appear like Snape was having to walk a tight line and the true reasoning for Dumbledore keeping him around really was that he was great at potions and a decent Professor.

In conclusion, being an abusive bully to non Slytherin students was actually bad for his cover.

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kncrowder88

It is bad cover in a way however keep in mind .... it was also more rumor than known fact. No student knew for certain what his past was. I mean, think about it .... if Snape was a known Death Eater do you honestly think rich pureblood families like the Longbottoms would just let Dumbledore keep him around? Not happening. It's all speculation and rumor. The kids who know only do so if their parents knew and told them (i.e. Draco Malfoy).

So, yeah, part of it is likely to appease the DE parents but also ..... consider what Slytherin is about. This is a house that values fraternity, brotherhood, ambition, cunning, etc.. As a Slytherin, I can tell you right now one of the things I loathe is when you handle my shit in front of others. I get Snape not going at his snakes in public. He handled them in house though, he took care of it that way. The other Heads likely knew this but never TOLD THEIR KIDS. That's where the problem lies, Snape knew how to best handle his kids based on their traits and qualities as he is like them.

When you consider it from the standpoint of the houses best reacting to certain correction methods better.... Slytherins will handle in house better than public shame. Gryffindors seem to be the public ones, call out their behavior WHEN it happens type (Neville being an exception to this -each house will have those). If Snape was abiding by that mindset, which add to it a whole lot of other factors (there is a wonderful post put there about his trauma and the impact of Harry's year on that), the Slytherin/Gryffindor mix is really a poor choice for his classroom honestly. As it's a mixed punishment system and gives kids a poor visual.

The original post leads to a great question; why would the other Death Eaters not remark upon Snape's behaviour?

We could say that the Death Eaters remained unaware of Snape's behaviour within Hogwarts and therefore couldn't comment - but this seems an oddity given that a number of the Death Eaters appear to have students at the school, and we know for a fact that Draco was in keen contact with Lucius at various points in the series.

So, we have to look at the evidence of Snape's behaviour - were his actions truly such an outlier, compared to the other staff, that the Death Eaters would suspect that something was afoot? Given the jockeying for position with the Death Eaters alluded to during the Spinner's End chapter, it seems as if it can't have been. Moreover, we don't see any parent successfully complaining to the school about his behaviour - and instead of McGonagall rebuking Snape for his attitudes, she seems to trust his decision making, which suggests that his fellow staff members don't particularly see a problem either.

There's also the suggestion that Snape is a 'terrible teacher'. He's certainly abrasive, sarcastic, strict, and errs on the side of the terrifying in the classroom, but he's not objectively terrible when it comes to performance metrics. His acceptance for NEWT level study is higher than Slughorn's, his expectations for his students at OWL level is very high, and Umbridge comments that his class is advanced. He's also a successful Head of House, with Slytherin winning the House Cup year on year prior to Harry's arrival at Hogwarts.

Snape may not be nice or friendly, but with that context, he's canonically a successful teacher - so there's an argument that Dumbledore may permit him more latitude in his classroom behaviour given his students' impressive exam results.

I think a key factor is that the vast majority of classes that we see Snape leading contain Harry Potter - and Harry is a very personal problem for Snape. Not only does he have past issues (with both Lily and James, for different reasons) - but Snape can't really afford to show any grace towards Harry; if he had, then it would be reasonable for Voldemort to expect that Snape could influence Harry. Snape had advance warning that Voldemort would be returning, so it seems that the only logical stance for him to have was to be entirely opposed to Harry lest any other connection be exploited.

For me, I think the conclusion about Snape being 'strict[] but favouring Slytherins slightly' is probably supposed to be his presentation, and his scenes with Harry et al are outliers.

I think it's important to note that in Harry's class, there's also Draco Malfoy. In HBP, Narcissa details that Snape is Draco's favourite teacher - and in CoS, Draco says similar himself and suggests Snape for Headmaster if Dumbledore is ousted. We can likely conclude that Draco's reports back to his parents were favourable - so his behaviour was being interpreted as positive and not suspicious.

The fact that nobody raises a query about Snape's behaviour suggests that whilst we, with modern eyes, may complain about Snape's classroom behaviour, within the wizarding world of the 80s/90s, there's no issue; Dumbledore doesn't seem to notice or care, the staff members don't seem to notice or care, the parents don't seem to notice or care - and so, the Death Eaters have no basis to raise a warning sign to Voldemort.

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Anonymous asked:

neville's potion caused him to break out into painful boils, and while these boils were getting worse and worse, snape just yelled at him for being dumb instead of solving the problem?

i don't have the quote in hand but i am pretty sure snape solved the problem. yelling at students is wrong but you can't accuse snape of doing nothing. he either undoes the damage himself or sends the student to pomfrey

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ottogatto

Lol "yelled at him instead of solving the problem" so first he didn’t "yell at him", he complained that Neville idiotically mistook the instructions, and then he did solve the problem immediatelly by:

- Vanishing the harmful potion so it couldn’t spread anymore

- Sending Neville to the Infirmary, accompanied by another student

The last move by the way is what makes Snape a better teacher than Hooch. Hooch let 11 yo Slytherins and Gryffindors (prone to aggressive rivalry) unsupervised with flying brooms. The result? Draco and Harry used the brooms to fly, and could have killed themselves. It was Draco and Harry, it could have been anyone else. Snape, on the other hand, sends a student to support the injured student to the Infirmary, while he the teacher remains in class to supervise it. It is a class of Slytherins and Gryffindors, except now we have potions that at any moment can explode and kill a student. But Snape is a responsible teacher, you see, he knows that he must stay with them to prevent further accidents.

Anon... read the books. All the way. Hopefully you’ll stop making such mistakes and will finally be able to criticize Snape accurately. Improve your reading comprehension, so we don’t have to explain all the story to you as we would to a 4 yo.

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Anonymous asked:

I came across this anti-Snape comment on my doorstep:

Yes, Sirius was an idiot to say how to enter the screaming house. But what about snape? Nobody forced him to go there.

I really don't know what to think ...

snape goes to the shrieking shack because he is willing to do anything to get them to stop harassing him

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sirius baits him and tells him the only way to get past the whomping willow

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snape follows the marauders hoping to find something that could get them expelled so he can finally attend hogwarts in peace

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snape grows desperate as he relentlessly bullied for 4 years by this point

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the teachers do nothing to help him. in fact they're fond of his bullies

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snape fights back with only lily stepping in to help. the rest of the students prefers to laugh at him or do nothing

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the marauders attack him 4 on 1 with the help of the map and likely the invisible cloak

i hope that explained why snape fell for sirius' bait
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Also, I really think it needs to be said:

It doesn't matter if it was "stupid" of Snape to assume Sirius Black wasn't going to actually risk murdering him.

Poor judgment isn't a capital offense. What the hell, HP fandom?

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What do you think about the argument that Severus himself invented the spell Levicorpus , so his spell was used against him ? By the way love your blog, keep up the good work

thank you!

he invented the spell for self defense, not sexual assault. it was likely a way for him to disarm or disorient his attackers so he could get away. in fact, every spell he invented was meant to protect him in some way (it's hard to run if your toenails are over a foot long, it's hard to cast a spell if you can't speak, it's hard to eavesdrop if you can't hear what the person is saying, etc.). so the spell itself is not inherently bad, it only becomes a problem depending on how it's used. harry used it on ron without an issue. james and sirius on the other hand used it to humiliate snape.

as soon as his underwear was exposed, they should have let him down. instead they kept him floating in a manner that was eerily similar to what death eaters had done to their muggle victims in book 4. exposing people you hate against their will in order to degrade them is sexual assault. if that's something that snape had done, it would have been brought up. instead the spell attributed to snape was sectumsempra.

anyway, in addition to exposing his underwear twice, james threatened to remove it to a cheering crowd. honestly, the way that scene cut off, we're meant to assume that it ended up happening. the scene, which was long, wasn't resolved and it ended too abruptly because it's a children's book so whatever happened can only be implied. james was furious after lily stormed off and up to that point, he was mostly cold and casual as he and sirius hexed snape for fun. imagine what james did now that he was truly angry. also given how explosive present day snape's reaction was, i think it adds weight to the idea that he was fully exposed that day. harry had seen his memories before and while snape wasn't happy about that, he wasn't violently angry like he was when he found harry with the pensieve.

still threatening to undress someone while they're defenseless in front of a crowd after you've already assaulted them... that's sexual assault. saying that it's karma that snape got assaulted with his own spell is beyond vile.

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ottogatto

Levicorpus might also have been a prototype for self-levitation spell and unsupported flight. "Levitate the body". But Snape’s bullies (who were so obsessed about him they stole his own spells) converted it into the Dangling Hex, and used it for several instances of sexual assault.

It doesn’t matter if Snape had made a knife, it would still be Porker’s fault for striking it into Snape for torture.

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Anonymous asked:

What do you think about the argument that James matured and stopped bullying snake but Snape continued bullying as an adult also ?

it's easy to mature and stop bullying your fellow students when you graduate school.

also snape wasn't redeeming himself because he's a bully, he was redeeming himself for joining voldemort's side.

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ianwaite

What?

@anonym

Where in canon do we get to know James matured and stopped his bully behavior?

I really wanna know why people always come to that! Gimme the page, the line OR gimme the scene that made you to conclude that!

Btw: why do people even think, that Sev was able to mature? Sarcastic comment to that:

What do you mean with "it's easy to mature ..."?? I still see sometimes my old school bullies...believe me one of them still bullies, one of them struggles with maturing and one doesn't care and does not even look at me. It's not easy rather for bullies nor for me. The first thing you need to mature is a self reflecting view on yourself (first for that you need a " self") and then on the past.

I bet James NEVER apologized his actions towards Severus. Even when he had a chance to.

Severus bullies kids in order to play the role of the evil ex-Death Eater. But to Harry, he can play this role naturally and I can understand that, cause in my POV he was not allowed and able to mature. Imagine once if he had been nice to Harry, who had supposedly killed the Lord - his master. I bet he would have been killed by the Dark Lord when he came to him after his rebirth. The Dark Lord said he would, but because Severus played his part convincingly (the mean teacher - which Lucius could confirm), he was able to convince the Dark Lord. Secretly, though, Severus never put children in danger the way other teachers did. He was always able to protect them, even by being mean to them. Incidentally, I think it's meaner to be left outside by your own tutor (McGonagall) while an attacker is going mad in the castle.

The pedagogical methods of the other teachers are always faded out...why? (Here s.o. summoned Sevs methods.) The other teachers endanger the children, Severus never did anything like that, on the contrary, see here.

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i said it's easy to mature and stop bullying your fellow students when you graduate as in james no longer had access to his fellow students so he couldn't continue bullying them. this means that we don't have anecdotes of james bullying people after hogwarts because he joined the order and was busy the war. it was easy for him to leave that part of his life behind which is why his maturity is meaningless especially when compared to severus’ redemption arc

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Anonymous asked:

I just came across someone who said child Snape was an incel. I really want to know wtf goes on in the minds of such people? I think some of the HP fandom is toxic and deranged. It's so repulsive to think a child is a creep/incel.

child snape????????? what the hell

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ottogatto

They already call child!Snape a sexual predator, so yes, I can confirm many antis are actually deranged.

To think antis are able to see children as sexual beings in the first place, and then accuse them of being incels when they are just being lonely and awkward as they try to get a friend?

I think it speaks more of how antis see children than anything. They’re the disgusting creepy ones, it seems.

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Anonymous asked:

Speaking of ATYD, if anyone here has read it, how is Snape portrayed? Because you can immediatly feel when an author dislikes a character and is therefore heavily biased in the portrayal of said character.

probably like a villain. if you've read it, tell anon about it

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Snape is definitely their primary antagonist. Any altercation is (generally) started by Snape. He also mocks Lupin for being poor (which is just ridiculous because Snape lived in even more abject poverty than a kid in an orphanage) and having a learning disability (and the fact that there was 0 intervention for a clearly dyslexic child when there have been pretty good interventions available since the 1940s for a condition first named in the 1880s beggars belief).

It's a pretty gross characterization.

And it annoyed me more than was probably reasonable, but Sirius has what seems like a Muggle record player at school and it works. Also a collection of current Muggle records.

Not surprised by this or what everyone is saying in the notes

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if i posted every anon hate i get, it would be half the blog. 99% of the time when an anti jumps on a post i made, i ignore it. this blog didn't become 'peaceful' or 'drama free' by accident. i have to ignore a lot of nonsense when i look in the inbox or at my notification. i'm not saying any of this looking for pity because we all know what it's like to be a snape fan but just to tell you that i expect a better response than this

the snapedom is still active because we like snape obviously but more importantly we stick up for each other. if any of you had gotten those series of asks as well the replies that person was making and you chose to be petty and mean about it, i'll be right there with you.

the funny thing is at every point when i was ready to ignore this person (when they sent the first ask, when they made the first reply, when they first insulted a snape fan under one of my posts), they continued to go overboard. frankly i think i was pretty restrained given what they were calling me and the fact that they've been harassing the fandom for a while now.

anyway, this is just to say- respond however you want to anyone bothering you.

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ottogatto

Anon who keeps sending this, please stop. You’re not the one spammed with hate. You’re not the one called all names. And you seem not to understand that when we reported them, 1) they threatened us with violence & revenge-report, 2) they created another blog to keep harassing us. It wasn’t enough.

But we still report, because it’s the right thing to do, because Tumblr moght ban them a way that’ll make it impossible for them to create another blog, because they need to understand they must stop, because instead of blaming someone for defending themself from hate just because it makes you feel uncomfortable, as severusdefender says, we stick up with each other. This is what makes the Snapedom’s strength. I doubt you’ll see the same level of solidarity elsewhere. This is what makes it bearable to fight off the constant hate.

This hate will happen no matter what, even if we stopped defending ourselves and took all the hits. I’ve been here for a little while, and guess what, there’s less Snape hate than a year or two before, at least from my perspective. Why? Because we protect each other and defend ourselves from the hate.

This anti here is a case. I don’t think they’ll keep up for long now.

If seeing hate makes you this uncomfortable, then don’t go to Tumblr for a little while until this goes away or block the hate tags. Don’t victim-blame like this please.

And frankly, I love seeing a fellow Snape stan sassing right back at them, defending our fav, us, and being so brave they’ll keep the anons on, while sparing us some good amount of hate asks just for our health.

That’s what it means to be a Severus Snape Defender.

thank you :))))

So I actually thought one of the updates Tumblr did a few years ago in regards to blocking ppl was that it actually blocked their IP? Before that, yeah there was a huge issue with ppl making multiple side blogs to continue harassing ppl, but I thought that had long since been fixed? Unless ppl have VPN's which I've heard can scramble IPs....unless I'm very wrong XD

since the recent updates to the site, for some reason, blocking people's asks doesn't work for me. i kept trying to block people who send hate but i would get an error message and the ask would remain. so earlier on, i was thinking of just blocking them the normal way, when i decided to try and block their ip and it actually worked this time.

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if i posted every anon hate i get, it would be half the blog. 99% of the time when an anti jumps on a post i made, i ignore it. this blog didn't become 'peaceful' or 'drama free' by accident. i have to ignore a lot of nonsense when i look in the inbox or at my notification. i'm not saying any of this looking for pity because we all know what it's like to be a snape fan but just to tell you that i expect a better response than this

the snapedom is still active because we like snape obviously but more importantly we stick up for each other. if any of you had gotten those series of asks as well the replies that person was making and you chose to be petty and mean about it, i'll be right there with you.

the funny thing is at every point when i was ready to ignore this person (when they sent the first ask, when they made the first reply, when they first insulted a snape fan under one of my posts), they continued to go overboard. frankly i think i was pretty restrained given what they were calling me and the fact that they've been harassing the fandom for a while now.

anyway, this is just to say- respond however you want to anyone bothering you.

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ottogatto

Anon who keeps sending this, please stop. You’re not the one spammed with hate. You’re not the one called all names. And you seem not to understand that when we reported them, 1) they threatened us with violence & revenge-report, 2) they created another blog to keep harassing us. It wasn’t enough.

But we still report, because it’s the right thing to do, because Tumblr moght ban them a way that’ll make it impossible for them to create another blog, because they need to understand they must stop, because instead of blaming someone for defending themself from hate just because it makes you feel uncomfortable, as severusdefender says, we stick up with each other. This is what makes the Snapedom’s strength. I doubt you’ll see the same level of solidarity elsewhere. This is what makes it bearable to fight off the constant hate.

This hate will happen no matter what, even if we stopped defending ourselves and took all the hits. I’ve been here for a little while, and guess what, there’s less Snape hate than a year or two before, at least from my perspective. Why? Because we protect each other and defend ourselves from the hate.

This anti here is a case. I don’t think they’ll keep up for long now.

If seeing hate makes you this uncomfortable, then don’t go to Tumblr for a little while until this goes away or block the hate tags. Don’t victim-blame like this please.

And frankly, I love seeing a fellow Snape stan sassing right back at them, defending our fav, us, and being so brave they’ll keep the anons on, while sparing us some good amount of hate asks just for our health.

That’s what it means to be a Severus Snape Defender.

thank you :))))

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So sorry for all the horrible hate to it getting. These people are psychotic abusers. I’m genuinely sorry for the people who know them and have to experience this level of hatred. If they are this screwed up making death threats over a charactwe imagin how they react in real life eesh

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yeah they're not normal. i'm fine actually. i'm mostly feeling second hand embarrassment truth be told

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imagine harassing people, facing the consequences for your actions, going insane, and then calling other people psychopaths. i'm actually laughing rn

I'd block them, honestly, mostly out of pity at this point. What they're doing isn't healthy and they pretty clearly can't regulate their own social media usage.

I just don't understand why THEY can't block the people whose content they find distressing instead of having a full-on meltdown over it. Tumblr gives you all the tools to make your time on the app/your dash the way you want it.

yeah i was waiting to see if they'll do anything interesting but they just keep repeating 'you sick fucks' and 'i'm the victim, i'm being harassed' and that's just sad. i pity them so much rn

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So sorry for all the horrible hate to it getting. These people are psychotic abusers. I’m genuinely sorry for the people who know them and have to experience this level of hatred. If they are this screwed up making death threats over a charactwe imagin how they react in real life eesh

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yeah they're not normal. i'm fine actually. i'm mostly feeling second hand embarrassment truth be told

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imagine harassing people, facing the consequences for your actions, going insane, and then calling other people psychopaths. i'm actually laughing rn

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You are the sucks most trashiest sick fuck alive and that sick fuck ottogatto

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Your a fuckjng racist
Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
Y’all wanna destroy my safe space???? Go right ahead I will ruin you
Someone went into my blog and posted incredibly abusjve things pretending to be me and I’m not letting this go easily
Fuck you
This isn’t about Harry Potter anymore fuck all that noise
Ottogatto wants to claim cyber harassment? Go right ahead
I’ll cyber harass the shit out of you if that’s what you want

Are you that unhinged loser who overreacted under a properly tagged post? God, I thought you were so pathetic and here you are sinking even lower than that. Why are you acting like a victim? You came after us first and you're still here obsessed with us. Don't you feel embarrassed, even a little? How do you live with yourself? I would honestly die of embarrassment if I was anything like you.

I don't give a damn about your blog, I don't care about your safe space, I don't give a shit about you in general. I hope every stupid blog of yours gets taken down.

@journeytonowhere see a therapist. nothing about you is normal. I feel sorry for everyone who knows you irl

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This is a child right? Like a whole child that hasn't learned to regulate their emotions yet? I refuse to believe they're an adult.

even when i was a child i knew better than to throw tantrums like this.

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Snape supporters are the worst thing that could have happened to this fandom… y’all are fucking psychotic and I’m gonna ruin you all

you think waaaaaaaaay too highly of yourself. you're not ruining anyone or anything. get a fucking grip and a job while you're at it

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Anonymous asked:

You know if Snape was a woman, people would literally defend him and be disgusted by the Marauders.

honestly?? idk if he would be defended but i know the reception of his character would have been different

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ottogatto

I do wonder, because fans tend to love male characters more than female ones. (that’s the impression I’ve got). So I wonder if Snape as a woman would attract so much passion. Tonks is a pretty badass woman who suffered objective abandonment from her own husband while she was pregnant, despite her whole acceptance of him, but she’s shit upon because fans would rather want to ship two men together and "she’s in the way". So Snape? I don’t know where this would lead.

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nowlander

Unless female Snape was super sexy and wore revealing clothes, I bet she would be more despised than male Snape. While we all love Mcgonagall, you don't really ses many blogs dedicated only to her character ¯\_(@_@)_/¯

Snape's worst memory... Might get the sympathy of a few people that might not see the trouble when the harrassment is done to a boy, but the men that already see male Snape as weak would explode with hatred.

I mean, maybe, just MAYBE the amount of Snape sympathizers would grow in quantity, but the hate Snape gets would increase in quality.

White boys exploded when Captain Marvel stole the motorcycle of a man that was harrassing her, yet when Shrek robs two innocent men and steals their clothes EVERYBODY laughs. Everything men can do, women are punished for.

Instead of people mad at Harry calling Snape "brave" -obviously having been horribly slain to death not being punishment enough for the bad things he did- today the universal fanon would be female Snape being raped by each and all of the deatheaters before being horribly slain. And I think I'm falling short.

yeah narcissa and bellatrix having fans has more to do with the fact that they're good looking ladies who come from old money. and still severus snape is more popular with the general audience than they are. if he was a female and much of his character remained the same.... i don't even want to imagine how he'd be treated

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the snape being sexist headcanons are genuinely hilarious because theres nothing in canon to support them but on the other hand you have the marauders, one who threatens a girl to date him and sees her like a prize to win, one with severe mommy issues, who keeps ignoring and cutting off hermione whenever she talks sense, who beefs with mrs weasley acting like she doesnt have an entire family shes worried about, and one who ditches his pregnant wife. But theyre the woke feminists...right.

Right? Isn't it funny how much overlap there is between:

- fans who claim that the guy who was best friends with a girl for years, who made a nickname for himself out of his mother's maiden name, who had a specifically female patronus, and who pulled through what happened in the chapter Spinner's End with dignity, was a raging misogynist

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- fans who claim that the group of traditionally masculine, sporty bros who were popular kids in the 70s, are known to emasculate and bully boys who they see as beneath them and one of whom tried to harass a girl into going on a date with him while another got cold feet and almost abandoned his pregnant wife, were feminists, the ultimate allies for women and minorities and warriors against toxic masculinity.

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Really? These are your feminist heroes?

I'm really trying not to come off as too anti-Marauders on Tumblr, I don't hate them as characters, but I'm not going to pretend that the popular "sEnSiTivE fEmiNisT bOis uwu" fanon of them doesn't feel like utter bullshit.

On the other hand I kind of understand why it's such a big thing, because a lot of these fans/fanfic authors seem to be pretty young (as if I'm not 20 haha), and it's obvious that this is the fans/authors projecting their own battles HARD on the characters and the world. If the Marauders are your favorite characters, of course you'll want them to be on your side. You want Sirius and Remus to have been at Stonewall (notice the conspicuous change in country), you want James to be an outspoken warrior against sexist attitudes, you want to see Marauders who are comfortably in touch with their emotions to break down masculine stereotypes, et cetera, because those are the things that you would fight for and want your friends to fight for.

I 100% get it.

But.

As an AFAB, I just genuinely don't buy that the canon Marauders, especially as teenagers, would have been "woke" feminists. In my view, they are like... probably the most accurate representation of (casual) toxic masculinity in the series. And it doesn't make them all bad, especially considering that these books were written in the 90s and reflect the attitudes of those times. In the end, it's just one of the many, many different flaws people can have.

Like for example, there are so many headcanons of the Marauders crossdressing casually, because omg you go kweeeens fuck gender roles. But... canon Remus used crossdressing as a joke, to humiliate a colleague. How woke is it to laugh at a man you forced into women's clothing?

This all isn't to say that Snape is overall less toxic than the Marauders, but his toxicity is not all that gendered in nature, if that's the correct way to say it. His toxicity and bullying doesn't seem to be so much based on gender roles, compared to Sirius and James' - if anything, he seems to kind of resent masculine gender expectations, obviously struggling to fit them himself.

It all comes down to the fact that there is no canon evidence of the Marauders being feminists, while there is canon evidence of Severus NOT being a misogynist. I guess that's why it's so weird that those headcanons are as popular as they are.

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