Typically when I tell radfems on this site that quoting from Andrea Dworkin is platforming a paedophile I simply get no response. They just continue to put her up on a pedestal as a supreme example of what a true feminist is supposed to be, this woman who was a class traitor and a handmaiden to any man who feels entitled to raping his own children and animals.
These are the screen caps that I show them as proof, btw.
If you don't care about this then you don't care about society.
Their indifference is what's convinced me of what a sham radical feminism is - perhaps what all feminism is, who knows.
After all, why would a true feminist also support men at their worst, most anti-social practices? Why would a feminist movement take such exception to the occasional trans woman inmate in prisons, but not to the habitual presence of male guards in all-female prisons? Why would a feminist movement care so much about stopping women from cultivating femininity (makeup etc) but then encourage women to cultivate masculinity? Either appearances really don't matter and both men and women can be either feminine or masculine, or radfems are lying when they say their objection is to people identifying outside of their biological sex when it's really cross-dressing that bothers them - something that in no way threatens women's sex based rights.
if you are a budding feminist, be advised that the screen cap bellow was the reply I got from a tumblr blog when I criticized JK Rowling for quoting from Dworkin. To reiterate, this has been my experience, whenever I have told a fellow feminist that Dworkin was an apologist for the rape of children and animals. It's never "I didn't know that, that is shocking and awful, I won't quote from her in the future". Rather you either get total silence or this:
And just for the record...
1 - Notice how this person took my criticism of another individual to heart as if I were accusing her. That's because she identifies with Dworkin. She supports Dworkin and her rapist ideology, that's why she was offended. It's because she doesn't reject her ideas, she embraces them.
2 - What I said was backed up by evidence and she's just embarrassed that it's impossible to defend rapist ideology without giving away that one is a rapist, hence her evasions and obfuscations.
3 - And finally, where is the evidence that great writers were also dicks? Remember the Christopher Hitchens razor: a statement offered without proof can be dismissed just as flippantly. I presented proof that Dworkin is a class traitor and a paedo.
There is no evidence that Dickens or Nabokov were either rapists or supporters of rape in their published work. Lolita was an entirely fictional novel, not an ideological manifesto in favour of paedophilia, as anyone who has actually read the novel would know. How does reading novels make me an anti-intellectual? Or indeed challenging women like Dworkin who deserve to be exposed as the frauds that they were?
Not that Dickens or Nabokov are relevant in a feminist discussion and there was never any point in bringing them up except to muddy the waters and obfuscate some more. They were men after all and from my observation men are hardly ever egalitarians. But as I have previously pointed out, women are hardly ever feminists either and women who claim to be feminists are just more proof of this, not the exception.
Let me put it like this: if you were writing a fictional novel with feminist characters in it, would the feminists in your novel support male rapists and then chide the women who criticize apologists of sexual abuse? Of course not. But if you explained your reason is that it's just not realistic to describe a feminist as someone who would ever defend rape... then I'd say read again this entire post and see for yourself that IRL even the concept of men raping their own children or animals doesn't faze them. They protect the men and chide the women, like the good little handmaidens that they are.
Don't bother joining feminist groups or interacting with them. There is nothing to look forward to but more of this forever. Feminism is just another sewing circle for women to gather around and chit chat, no more or less so than skin care channels or, indeed why not, sewing circles. You might as well go for the later. There's bound to be less hypocrisy there and you might make yourself a sweater.
