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ksenianovak

He knew who I was… and what I was. He loved me unconditionally. He forgave me. He only asked for one thing. To stop.

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smallhorizons

drahcula

#long post.

why do so many people think destiel fans hate sam i’ve never even seen sam hate let alone sam hate from destiel shippers in particular

I have an entire “sam hate” tag on my blog, you are welcome to browse it :)

u cannot say u never seen destiel shippers hate on sam if I have an entire archive full with that shit, lmao u seem like in denial about your co shippers,

Blog posts this shit blog actually considers as “Sam Hate” (keeping in mine that to hate something means to dislike it intensely and passionately)

- “bi bro fans try to invalidate everything that’s ever happened between dean and cas and when i saw that post that said sam was his collette i screamed lmaoand btw dean was forced into the care taker role which has forced him to care about sam above all else since he was four he chose to love cas”

Nothing indicates in this post that the OP hates Sam. She stated facts. Jared confirmed Cas is Collette. And we all already knew Sam is Abel. Dean was forced to take care of Sam and put him above all else, including himself, but his relationship with Castiel was never by force. This post does not say that Dean doesn’t love Sam or that he loves Sam more or that the OP doesn’t like Sam, just that as family, from the time he was a kid, Dean was forced to hold Sam on a pedestal and take care of him; be the father John wasn’t.

- ““dean winchester + his only exception”*bunch of gifs of dean n sam*”

This person is stating more or less they don’t believe Sam to be Dean’s only exception. That’s not hate on Sam.

- “lmao y’all gotta bend backwards to say u like cas but also!!!!! sam bc otherwise u aren’t ///acceptable/// and u probably ship DESTIHELL which means u support NECROPHILIA and u aren’t a trufan anyway which means jensen hates upls chill” (SDSS Tags) : sam hate, apparently it’s ok for destielers to hate on sam now, not that they never did that anyway, but now they are getting outspoken about it :D, good thing because now i can reblog it and show everyone who starts their argument with I never seen destiel shippers….,

Where’s the hate though? This blog and all the posts in this tag are proof of the above. Someone can’t dislike Sam or ship Destiel withoiut it being considered hate. Everyone’s allowed to hate Cas and it’s cool but not Sam? But there’s no hate here. People thinking that Dean loves Cas does not equal Sam hate. And just because people aren’t going on and on about their love for Sam doesn’t mean they hate him.

*I don’t have the energy to copy this whole post so here is the gist of it* - “Infuckingcorrect, straight person; you don’t speak for queer Cas-lovers or Destiellers, especially about representation, stop acting like you do. Just part of a family is not enough. An tripod, a team of brothers, is not enough. The relationships should (continue to) be treated differently because a friend/family you treat like a brother is not like a friend/family you treat like a lover. Equal representation is what we WANT. Fuck your respectability politics when you blatantly don’t know shit about how rep actually works and shouldn’t, then, be stating what we all want. Eros or bust. Grasp that.“ (SDSS Tags): sam hate, because it boils down to sam CAN be abscent for a while more like forever while cas and dean fuck lmao,

So on top of not knowing what shopuld and should not be classified as “Sam Hate” you also are an insensitive prick who thinks someone who wants rep for their sexuality on mainstream media and is passionate about it really just hates Sam and should just let the show stay as is because they actually only care about Dean and Cas fucking…mhmm seems the point went right over your head

- “season 9 is replaying. God I hate Sam. When he told Dean they shouldn’t be brothers Dean should have worked just as colleagues and maybe replaced him sometime along the way to someone he can work with without the bullshit.”

Wow congrats, actual Sam hate! Although this person properly tagged it as wank for ts, and was mad at Sam for hurting Dean emotionally. This post has shit all to do with Destiel so….?

Next post is ironically from me, and SDSS thinks I “am one of those Destiel shippers who wants Sam to be gone” which is hella false. The post is about the debate between people thinking Cas is not Dean’s Collette and other people doing so, absolutely nothing in the post is a bout hating Sam and if this shit ass blogger knew about me they’d know I prefer Sam over Dean all day most days, and could care less about canon Destiel.

Next post is a meme…the Dadstiel meme, and SDSS thinks Sam is being treated as an animal as he’s mentioned to be the family pet and therefore the whole meme is hate towards Sam. Sounds more like someone is over sensitive and can’t take a joke. The meme is hella funny.

- “As much I want Dean/Cain conversation to be like, “so who is your colette Dean”? [cut to Cas],I have a feeling it’s gonna be Cain telling Dean that he can completely overcome the mark…because Sam is still…alive, while Abel is dead…so ~~familial love~~ will…help…him..to win this fight…And the powerful force he needs is… his belief in himself…and support…from his family…..wait? Who’s Cas? Who’s Colette? Nah…they are just…people. Part of the support from….family….But Sam is the main…support…for Dean…Colette is…just there for me because Abel…isn’t. *cough* Cause y’know everything is about the winchester bros, and when it’s not really about the winchester bros, it’s still 1000% about the winchester bros. “

This person literally just wants Cas to be more recognized and seen as someone Dean cares about. There’s 0 hate for Sam in this post.

Also their tags on this post are: sam hate, supernatural aka the show about two brothers is indeed about two brothers,shocker I know, take your time, not to mention that your interpretation of Cas being deans colette is deluded af

That’s quite the interesting observation considering your favourite in the world confired at SeaCon this year that the parallel was intentional…so it looks like they did it on purpose and you were just too bitter to get it :/ YIKES!

The last two posts on the first page are by the same person. They were hesitant to publicly say why they didn’t reblog Jared and Sam that much because they really didn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings and the made sure to tag their posts properly so that no one who loved them would be offended. But SDSS is such a creep they found the posts anyways and reblogged them, trying to make that person and the Destiel crowd look bad. The OP deleted their posts because they’re not a rude person and doesn’t want those post to be on their blog, making people think something about them that isn’t true.

So on top of being an over sensitive creep, you’re also a bully :/

Anyways that’s just the first page of your bullshit tag, do better.

#Hahahahaha #Seeing as these shitbags are still keeping tabs on my shit clearly (cos that was a reblogged post so it WASN'T in the Wank tag)#I think I should reblog this and point out that #Lol Sam stans #You are a HUGE contributing factor to why people feel unsafe in this fandom and unsafe talking about Sam especially. HUGE.#This controlling erasive Brothers mentality (with a HUGE dose of homophobia proppin g it up let me fucking tell you) hurts your 'cause'.#Because nobody wants to talk about a character if they literally are not fucking allowed to have faves that aren't that character.#They aren't allowed to talk about him unless they PROVE he's most important. Unless they agree with #Just the Brothers #rank bullshit that the show is as we speak putting the spotlight on to show how dark and disturbing it is. And as a result...stans do.#And not many others feel comfortable.#Your opinion of me weighs less than sunlight.#Thanks for proving my point with that post though. Again.#Lol Bros fandom #Meta #Same #Wank for TS #This egocentric 'SAM SHOULD BE EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING OR YOU HATE HIM' utter hogwash needs to STOP.#Dean.Cas #Cain.Colette #S9 spoilers #S10 spoilers #Sam Winchester #Sam is my friend #Lol Wincest #Lol Wincestiel #Lol Sastiel #(I don't have to ship Sam with the dudes you ship him with with no canonical basis to love him btw. I can see Sam is a straight white boy.)#Supernatural #Fandom

selfihateyouithink

Anonymous asked:

Do you think Dean and Cas will ever get a hug or anything again -_- I'm in bitter mood rn, I mean even Sam cradled Charlie into his arms, a friend I met a handful of times but Dean and Cas aren't even getting your standard buddy hug. I feel like there is something missing in their interaction. Sure he get stuff like Cains comments but if they don't back it by having Dean/Cas show having an intimate bond it'll look more and more "all tell no show". I'm getting more overdramatic by the second

I am in a very bad mental place to answer this question with positivity, so I hope that’s not what you were hoping for. I agree. I read a meta about it earlier and it scared the fucking shit out of me. They can’t…really ignore the Colette parallel, but they can flatten it, and—though I’m not sure how much of this is the story and how much of it is for another purpose—they are. The subtext is down to a minimum when Dean and Castiel are in the same room on the show; I could feel it last night but I didn’t know quite what it was until I read this. And now I’m having an #anxiety attack. So I’m not positive right now. I’m wavering.

Mind you, I still believe fervently that Castiel is Dean’s Colette. No fucking matter what happens at the end of the arc, that is really goddamn evident.

And on that note:

Anonymous said:February 18th 2015, 8:31:00 am · 8 hours agoLol what the fuck ever. Can’t wait to see what happens when Cas isn’t “Colette” and destiel is STILL a sunken ship

[sends a horde of bees after you] Get OUT of my Askbox and stop preying on the victims of queerbaiting for being queerbaited, you WALKING BLACK HOLE WHERE COMPASSION DISAPPEARS. It doesn’t matter if the ship sinks: CAS IS STILL DEAN’S COLETTE BY MERE FUCKING PERCEPTIVE LOGIC, YOU SHIT. The parallel doesn’t have to follow exactly: Cain practically fucking said it.

Anonymous said:February 18th 2015, 4:01:00 pm · an hour ago(this is asshole-ish) jesus fucking christ, I’m laughing now that the latest episode made it canon that Sam is Abel suddenly the flimsy, desperate, pulled of the ass arguments about how ~sam is colette~ are increasing lmao. it’s done, people, Sam is Abel, this conundrum is over before it started. its a good messurment tho just like when there is some strong destiel subtext the anons “OMG there wasnt even any destiel!!!” are coming out of the woods.

I completely agree. Though… yes there was subtext last night, yes, of course, as always, but the subtext kinda…didn’t involve the two of them. That meta I linked above makes too much sense to me. The subtext is seeming very conceptual and less grounded in the characters. Cas is Dean’s Colette, okay, yes, fucking duh, but where’s the indication that they care about each other the same way they always did during the Big Moments, the hints of “we love each other but the situation’s not allowing us to get there” that will lead up to that romantic conclusion his being Colette will eventually ensure. It’s like they’re telling us everything, with things like Cain’s speech, and showing us less than ten percent of that, and after that meta, I realized why, and it hurts, it’s terrifying. [panics]

I’m not debating anybody ever again that Cas is Dean’s Colette; that is a foregone fucking conclusion, assbags who try. But I’m feeling right this moment like I’m being told something that’s not quite onscreen about the two of them, and it hurts because it was, it really was, recently, and where is it now? Where?

selfihateyouithink

Anonymous asked:

Do you think the last seven and a half people that still pretended Sam isn't Abel are doing OK right now? lmao

Lmfao, nice one anon. I’m going to go with ‘no’ and ‘good riddance’.

It’s been seven seasons and we really shouldn’t have to still have the argument that Castiel and Sam have separate while both legitimate positions in Dean’s life as people he loves (and “people who love” him—HIS WORDS) in different but similarly intense ways.

We really shouldn’t have to. And the more the narrative shoves down the throats of the people who feel we should that they’re wrong, the better.

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Let me reinforce it one more time, just in case it still matters, as this episode has seemingly pointed out it will.

Sam is Abel. Castiel is Colette. Cain practically outright said it (and paused very intently to taunt Dean**, ala Metatron with Cas in 9x23, about just how much it’d devastate him to kill Castiel—yet again bringing an amatonormative focus to their bond). Please find another argument to have, codependency stans. Or, maybe, after seven fucking seasons, let it go? Let Dean save himself and be happy, with the support of more than one: the brother-child he loves, and the best friend he’s in love with.

(** Before you even bring it up, “the one you couldn’t survive” has nothing to do with how Dean loves Sam best so Sam’s Colette and the one and only and Dean’s Sammy Sammy Sammy and Sam is everything and Castiel barely exists and blah blah blah blah BLAH, and everything to do with codependency, how Dean was conditioned to build himself around Sam, and thus losing Sam would disintegrate that self he’s built and leave him nothing but the Mark’s influence [especially after Castiel was dead? Sam would be the final straw for Dean to lose himself entirely]. Fucking duh. …Also I’m pretty sure Cain’s actually wrong about that to some degree, or will be, eventually, judging by Dean’s slow but apparent progress in building a separate self.)

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lizardkingeliot

It’s been a year and I figured it was finally time for an updated version of this.

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elizabethrobertajones

Anonymous asked:

So was thinking about Cain being brought up again but /without/ Colette and his ablitity to control the mark was textually states as self-control/power not "power of love", and now if Colette isnt going to be brought up again(and not left out in a it's obvious and important that shes left out way) in 10x14, just hypthetically, what would you think that would mean? that Sam will save Dean hence them reframing Cain/Colette by excluding the romantic love part? Or would that not change anything?

elizabethrobertajones answered:

I’m starting to get an itchy feeling that this Colette thing might be the most wasted ink we’ve ever spilled. :P *spills some more since we’ve got a tight deadline for whimsical discussion of one of the heavier weights ever dropped on the story* Because, you know, after so much stress, 90% of my expectation is that no expectations either way will be met at all in 10x14, given we’ve elevated this particular dynamic to such a ridiculous level of importance. :P