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When did we lose sight of the light?

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buggachat

I think my favorite episode of miraculous ladybug is the one where ladybug and chat noir punch hawkmoth in the face and then get married right on screen. a very underrated episode. i mean their wedding vows were just so sweet why does no one talk about it

i just stumbled upon this post i made in 2020 and im screaming crying because i wrote htis as a JOKE but this is LITERALLY JUST A REAL EPISODE OF SEASON 5

This just in, buggachat = Alix Kubdel, she used the Rabbit to see into the future.

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Anonymous asked:

With the exception of Sabrina, all of Chloe's relationships including Adrien follow a pattern where the person uses her until they don't need her anymore and discard her. Chloe was important to her when he was isolated, but as soon as he had new friends he started to immediately cut her out of his life. Andre wanted a daughter, and as soon as he found a better behaved one, he traded her for Zoe. Zoe used her to get the lay of the land, but when she realized Chloe was a pariah, she ditched her. As soon as Ladybug didn't need her help anymore, she told her she wad off the team "for her own protection." And, the only reason Hawkmoth never through her away was because he never git what he wanted.

That is an unfortunately accurate assessment of the impact of events. It's important to highlight that many of these weren't malicious (except Andre, F that guy)

Though that just highlights how much damage we can do unintentionally via ignorance, carelessness, or thoughtlessness.

Which would be a great lesson to put in a kids show, if they would just acknowledge it.

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Winning wasn't what Felix hoped it would be.

Even though Felix didn't get the ladybug and cat miraculous in "Emotion", he still accomplished what he set out to do, he defeated the heroes and used his own power to transform the world into what he wanted it to be, regardless of not getting a wish from the miraculous. Felix got what he wanted, only to realize he became everything he hated.

Felix's goals have always revolved around the peacock miraculous, however, the deeper he got in his mission to obtain the very jewel that controlled his entire existence, the more he uncovered secrets that left him resentful towards the people in his life and the world around him.

Felix resented Gabriel for not only keeping secrets he and his mom had a right to know (more here), but for also making the careless decision to entrust the peacocks power to his father, Colt, of all people.

It was no coincidence Felix looked like Adrien, and with Colt's death having been revealed in "Felix", it was obvious his death was a direct result using the peacock miraculous to bring to life a son that looked like Gabriel's. Anyone who used the peacock's power in its broken state was doomed to die from it. The jewel alone remained within the Agreste family, no one but the people closest to them would know about its power, Colt being one of them. Unfortunately, for much of Felix's life, people thought his dad was keeping him out of trouble, meaning that before Colt's death, Felix was well known for being a very obedient son, but this was far from the truth.

Felix's lack of grief over Colt's death implied he had a deep hatred for his dad and for good reason, Colt possessed the ring that contained Felix's amok, but he abused the power he had over Felix and Felix knew Gabriel was the same way towards Adrien, worse yet, he later learned it was the same for Kagami and her family (more here).

With Colt gone, and his fathers ring now in his possession, Felix was shown to be willing to be extremely defiant to those around him after years of being restrained by his father from being who he wanted to be, leaving him willing to do anything he could if it meant he could get what he wanted, regardless of the consequences it would bring onto others.

Kagami and Adrien also had a strong desire to break away from their parents control, but were more secretive about wanting to do so, because unlike Felix, the fear of disappointing their parents expectations was still there to keep them in line. However, this didn't stop Felix from attempting to make the two question how unnatural it was for them to obey.

(Back in "Felix", Felix questions Adrien's willingness to obey all of Gabriel's orders.)

(In "Emotion", Felix questioned Kagami if she was truly as free as she claimed, she wasn't.)

Felix might have been freed from his fathers control, and later became successful in re-obtaining the peacock miraculous, but there were still obstacles preventing him from obtaining what he believed was a true sense of freedom in the world, not just for himself but for everyone he felt never had the right to take control of their own lives. With the threat of people like Colt still present in the world, such as Gabriel and Tomoe, Felix was convinced he alone had to bear the responsibility of freeing anyone who was still under the control of others. But as it turns out, Felix's desire for freedom ran a lot deeper than anyone realized.

In "Emotion", when Marinette told Felix how unsettling it was to see everyone at the Diamonds Dance look at her like she was some kind of monster who was unfit to live among them, a nerve was struck, enough to make Felix drop his Adrien act at the dance.

Felix knew the feeling Marinette was experiencing, because he had experienced it every day of his life. Felix might have been created from the peacock's power to be just as human as everyone else, but the look on his face as he heard Marinette talk about how the people of high status within the room felt they were entitled to decided who should and shouldn't be a monster among them, brought him back to the one person who made him feel like he would forever be excluded from humanity, his father.

To know the kind of control another person could have over another living being, especially a senti like him, was enough to leave Felix with the conclusion that if he couldn't be part of the world without being looked at as a monster, then perhaps it was the world that had to be transformed to be fit for those who had just as much right to decide their own future, without fear of being looked at as a thing that needed to be controlled and wiped from existence by those who felt they were entitled to do so.

Felix did some terrible things to get to where he needed to be in "Emotion", but regardless of what he did, he truly believed that everything he did to create a free world, he did for the sake of the people he cared about. However, his hopes and dreams quickly turned into delusions blinding him from seeing that he was destroying everything he swore to bring everyone in his life.

Regardless of how unhappy Kagami and Adrien were over Felix's plans to wipe out everyone, including the people they loved, who stood in his way of creating his ideal world for them, Felix genuinely thought they would come around to seeing the good in his gift to them. For the first time in their entire lives, they were free, and anyone who posed a threat to control them again, friends and family alike, were now gone. If they needed something or someone to feel happy in their new world, he could easily give it to them, like Marinette, who proved to Felix she only wanted to support Adrien's efforts in deciding what was best for himself and had no intentions of controlling him like Gabriel did. However, what changed everything Felix believed was well within his control, was Marinette's disappearance.

Felix was successful in his plans, but the one thing that made it all come crashing down, was fear over his own power. To Felix, people like Gabriel, Tomoe and Colt were the real monsters of the world who had to disappear, but as Felix panicked in "Emotion" the more he believed he couldn't bring back Marinette, he grew terrified the more he realized he really did do the one thing only a monster like his father would do, he misused his power and snapped another living being out of existence in a fit of anger, with no way of bringing them back. In an instant, Felix realized he really was becoming no different than Monarch( Gabriel), than Tomoe, and to his horror, his own father.

In the midst of believing he was not in control of himself and the immense power he had, power that allowed him to decide who could and couldn't exist, Felix thought back to what he told Ladybug, he said there was no price too high for him to pay in his pursuit of a free world, as he had nothing left to lose, but he did.

It was easy enough to disregard anyone who posed a sense of authority against him, but there was Adrien and Kagami, the two people in his life who shared his struggle as a sentibeing, calling him the monster among them, desperate to stop his plans.

Felix won, but now, in order to keep that victory, he would have to be willing to snap away the very people in his life he wanted to help, just as he did with the rest of humanity in Paris, but was he willing to do it? No, he wasn't.

(Felix explains that he never meant to hurt Adrien and Kagami, he only wanted to give them what he felt they had a right to have, a life where they were free to decide their own future)

Ladybug said winning isn't always what you think it is. Felix wanted a world where no one would be controlled, and he got it, but now, it was he who was in control of everyone else, deciding who could and couldn't exist in the world depending on whether or not they would stand against him, stand against what he believed was right and wrong.

(Felix made everyone who fought against him disappear with the snap of his fingers the moment the light of his red moon touched them)

Felix had hoped that in his world, no one would be excluded like he was, everyone would be free and happy and accepted now that the people who excluded them were gone. But now, everyone would only be as happy and free as he would let them, anyone else he believed was unfit to be part of his world, were in the end excluded, regardless of posing no actual harm to him or the people he cared about.

Felix wanted everyone in his world to be free to decide their own future. However, by denying Adrien and Kagami their choice to live a future alongside the people they cared about, people like Marinette, it was he who was now keeping everyone from living the life they wanted to choose for themselves, just as his father once did to him.

And rather than create his senti brethren out of a greater sense of compassion towards them, he created his first sister, the red moon, out of a deep rooted hatred for others, just like his father did when he used the peacocks power to create him(more later). Everything Felix did, he thought he did for the sake of freedom, but amidst all that he planned, it felt more and more like Felix found himself doing everything he could for the sake of finally being the one who was in control, after a lifetime of being someone else's puppet.

Felix said he wanted everyone to be free to decide their own future, to be free to be who they wanted to be, but out of everything he ever wanted to be, he never wanted to believe he was a monster. Felix told Ladybug there was no price too high for him in his pursuit of creating a free world, but if the price of that free word meant he had to be every bit the monster his father was, someone he likely swore never to become, then he would rather give up the world he won, and he did.

(Felix returns all of humanity and snaps the red moon out of existence, giving up on creating a free world and choosing to risk returning to a life in a world where he could lose his freedom all over again. Winning was not worth become the monster his father was. )

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some people dislike Maribug because they interpret the creator's "girl power" schtick as her being a Mary Sue, and hence, a badly written character. They also think Adrien should be more of a main character and having him written out of important moments like the s5 finale showdown was a mistake, because he deserves better.

Well obviously, Adrien deserves better, he lives in an abusive household. But A. he's more of a deuteragonist and B. his absence was from the final fight wasn't Maribug's fault. Marinette (the main character!!!) going head to head with Monarch on her own (which was super badass idc) made all the narrative sense. Chat Noir was AWOL, she had to step up.

Plus, it's not like the plot rewarded her for fighting alone. She literally lost. So somehow, the issue becomes that the plot is bad because the villain won when he didn't deserve to, and he wouldn't have if Chat Noir was written in. But that argument goes nowhere bc Chat Noir was never going to be in the final fight.

He's a victim first and foremost, which people may not like, but thems are the facts. There was no way for him to escape from his prison in London without revealing his identity, thanks to his father.

The only bad guy here is Monarch, not Maribug, who knows she made a mistake and has to deal with the consequences. You know, like a well-written character.

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I hope in season 6 Marinette commits even more crimes. I hope she steals a cellphone in every episode. I hope she breaks into every house in Paris. I love when Marinette is an illegal perpetrator. God forbid women have hobbies. Is it a sin to let girls have fun?? I didn't think so. Your honor my client can do whatever she wants because I said so. Her boyfriend loves her for it he can bail her out of silly crime jail it's fine.

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It's interesting that present Marinette goes to that moment in Origins when her past self gave up her miraculous for a moment and meet with the Tikki for this time

Because if you think about it a little, meeting with future marinette made Tikki realize in the present that she was certain Marinette would comes around, and said many times in the show that she will be a great ladybug, because she saw what Future!Marinette did to stop the future holder of the butterfly.

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"well if I went through a harrowingly traumatic experience that involved being viciously attacked and watching two of my boyfriend's parents die and seeing the corpse of his third, i would feel completely comfortable telling him that his dead dad and extra parent were evil terrorists and also that he's been mind controlled his entire life and his existence is a lie and he's not even human. all on top of breaking the news to him that he’s been orphaned. at age 14"

speak for yourself man i can't even make phone calls

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Marinette: Hey am I making the right call by not telling Adrien the truth about his father?
Nathalie: Probably not, but I do not really have the moral high ground to object and if I do Adrien really does become an orphan.
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Marinette: Hey am I making the right call by not telling Adrien the truth about his father?
Kagami: No, but if you tell, my mom will be subjected to the scrutiny so I’d rather you didn’t. So I will accept the whole secrecy thing.
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Marinette: Hey am I making the right call by not telling Adrien the truth about his father?
Tikki and Plagg: We ain’t the Kwami of truth. We have no clue. But this situation is scuffed.
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Marinette: Hey am I making the right call by not telling Adrien the truth about his father?
All Bunnyx: Lol it doesn’t matter. As long as you own up to it eventually it will all work out.
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Marinette erasing her name from Lila’s notebook. Marinette erasing her name from Adrien’s present in Chat Blanc.

Having to stop the end of the world twice by hiding who she is. Knowing that as much as she wants to tell Chat, she can’t. Even now, Monarch gone, she still can’t.

Is this anything?

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Anyone notice how many times Ladybug talked about herself in third person in the London Special?

As soon as she told that lie about Gabriel and Tomoe, she began separating herself from what she'd done. She's coping through dissociation.

Throughout S1-5, she and Adrien were on paths towards integration. They were learning to see that he already was Cat Noir and she already was Ladybug. The strength lay within all along.

But by being untrue, she's gone backwards, splitting her two selves rather than unifying them. She's attempting to compartmentalise Marinette's relationship with Adrien from Ladybug's...which is unworkable.

In a word...our girl is a mess. She's supposedly doing all this to protect Adrien - but who's protecting her?

That might explain why in the trailer of season 6 first episode Marinette seems so insecure again about her relationship with Adrien, because she the confidence in herself that she managed to recover during season 5. She's no longer associating her real self with her heroic brave and clever Ladybug self. She's truly gone "backwards" because of season 5 finale and the special london events, and once again, in season 6, Marinette will be struggling with a lot of self-doubts and self depreciation (if not self hatred) T_T

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You know, I have been thinking about the wish.

Gabriel made the wish on Gimmi.

Gimmi explained that every wish has an exchange, that something must take its place.

So what if Gabriel's wish also made Marinette take his place, the one to watch over Adrien, and in turn forcing her to now be his accomplice, the secret bearer.

She was by trauma and by magic MADE to now be the one keeping Adrien in the dark.

Would that be f***ed or what?

...considering the equivalent exchange and his ambiguous wording, I hate that there's a possibility it did happen, whether Gabriel intended for it to happen or not. He was always such a control freak to the end after all, only makes sense he ruins things one last time by re-awakening Marinette's own tendencies.

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i hope ladynoir continue to be a paris-wide favorite ship, even though chat noir is over ladybug. i hope all of paris continues to vote them Paris' It Couple and speculate about their relationship and post the pics of them kissing everywhere.

beyond the obvious reasons, i just think it'd be soooo funny for adrien's family and close ones (nathalie, felix, kagami) to be annoyed at paris constantly rooting for marinette to leave adrien for chat noir

ladybug and chat noir playfully banter. she flicks his bell. cut to ladybug then nervously looking over her shoulder at argos and ryuko, staring at her and shaking their heads disapprovingly

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so painful having to see chronobug stare at EVERY CHOICE past her made, RECENT past her made, agreeing that every single one of them had to be made, and hating each one just as much anyway, hating HERSELF just as much……..

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While a bit clunky (because Astruc and the writes probably didn’t have a backstory in mind when they first came up with Gorilla’s character, and because the English translation of the show opted to have it stated that everyone is speaking English in-universe despite following a bunch of French people living in France), I do love that Miraculous Ladybug essentially gave us an explanation for why Gorilla never speaks. In season 5, episode 24, Representation, Felix just offhandedly mentions that in addition to the magic jewelry and petty rivalry between his dad and Adrien’s, he also exists because Gabriel demanded Colton had over his best “knight” to protect Adrien in exchange for the use of the peacock miraculous, and a light just goes on: Gorilla doesn’t speak because he’s American. And not one that up and moved to a whole ass new country by choice! No one named names, Gabriel didn’t leave any wiggle room for Colt to give him someone who already had an interest in relocation. Poor Placide I.T. had his whole life derailed because Emilie wanted to help her sister have a baby, and Gabriel was too petty to do it without getting something in return, and we don’t even know if he spoke a single word of French before being told to pack his bags.

It's so sad, but also kind of funny, because of course he’s probably learned the language over the years since becoming Adrien’s bodyguard. Even if he doesn’t feel confident or feel the need to speak, he can probably understand most of what’s said around him. But then we have characters like Marinette, who have a tendency to frantically vomited out words in sudden gusts that just get more and more embarrassing with every breath, and we can only assume that while she’s standing there mortified and hurriedly saying one thing and then another, mortified with herself all the while, Gorilla is actually just trying to pick out the last word he understood in all the mess.

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New theory about Miraculous World London : Maybe I was wrong, and the "two" antagonist are not different people, but one and the same, and none other than .....

... Adrien Agreste

At first I didn't pay attention to those who theorise that this dude who discovered Bug Noir's secret identity by spying on her after her fight against Monarch :

Could be an akumatized version of Adrien, because the silhouette looked indeed similar to Adrien's body building

But then I also noticed how the mysterious figure who steals Marinette's earings and black cat ring from her, and whom I assumed to be Lila who akumatized herself, does have a body build that's not similar at all to Lila's silhouette, but looks actually more like Adrien's, Luka's or Felix's :

There's also that short glimpse in the trailer where we see Chronobug in the burrow escaping with a book that seemingly belong to the mysterious blue figure who figured out her secret identity

And this takes place where Adrien and Kagami were kept prisonner and "safe" by their respective parents.

Still ... I couldn't imagine Adrien being the one to looks for Ladybug's secret identity, potentially giving it to Lila, given the fact that we see BOTH mysterious villains in Lila's lair, and then stealing Marinette's miraculous from her after seeing how losing all the other miraculous to Felix and Monarch the first time traumitized her. But then ... I remember one other instance where Adrien did try to steal Marinette's miraculous from her.

When he was Chat Blanc ... alone and full of sorrow and despair and thinking that the Wish was the only thing that could fix the broken world he was all lonely in.

And I also guessed that if Adrien were to be ever akumatized by Chrysalis, he wouldn't necessarily know that the new butterfly wielder is Lila herself, and thus somoene who hates his lady and girlfriend guts. Changing identities is Lila's thing after all, all she would have to do is to pretend to be on Adrien's side and promise not to harm Marinette in order to succesfully manipulate him, because that's something that I found curious about the mysterious being stealing Marinette's Miraculous while she's sleeping

How carefull he/she is not to wake her up, which could just be for safety measures, or for another random reason. Notheless whoever he/she is they leave Marinette alone and sleeping after stealing what they wanted, given that the synopsis clearly specifies that Marinette only discovers that her miraculous has been stolen after waking up and seeing the light of a wish being made from a distance.

And that's something I cannot see Lila doing, to not jump at the chance to further hurt Marinette by gloating in front of her and exposing her absolute defeat and Lila's full victory to her face before making a wish

Which left only one question in my mind, what reasons Adrien could ever have to let himself be akumatized by the new Butterfly, stealing the miraculous from his lady, and eitehr making a wish himself or letting who he doesn't know to be Lila making that wish ?

To answer this question, three elements caught my attention :

First, Adrien's reaction in the trailer upon which seems to be learning of his father's death :

Adrien is clearly full of hurt and sorrow in that scene, something which we would not have imagined seeing given the more serene Adrien than the we see in the season 5 epilogue.

Second, The fact that instead of going back to his wielder, despite how Adrien would need a lot of confort after all of that, Plagg instead stayed with Marinette, even letting her wearing his miraculous

And finally, Another synopsis shared about the Special London, and more precisely, the passage that I underlined in yellow :

" In this new episode, Ladybug must make a crucial decision, which will lead to an unexpected twist that fans won't see coming."

This teasing sentence is the core of my theory, here it goes :

According to my new theory, This special London might take place in a timeline where Marinette chose to tell the truth to Adrien, to tell him that Gabriel Agreste died as the supervillain Monarch instead of a hero who helped stop Monarch.

The truth of course didn't bode well with Adrien, who would then feel guilty about the fact that his father may have been indirectly killed because of him, because of Chat Noir's cataclysm.

Which would then explain why Plagg doesn't directly go back to Adrien aftermath and and stays with Marinette instead, because the kwami knows that his presence would be a cruel a reminded of Chat Noir's indirect involvment in Monarch's death

And this would explain how Lila armed with the butterfly miraculous could ever akumatize Adrien and convince him to help her discover Ladybgu's secret identity and steal the miraculous from her, with the promise of a wish that would erase all the cause of Adrien's suffering by creating a new world.

Because what's the point of livign in a world where his father was the supervillain who hurt so many, a world where he is indirectly responsible for his father's death ?

At some point Chronobug will have to travel to the past to stop that mysterious time blue supervillain to figure out her secret identity, and if that person is revealed to be Adrien, Marinette would also have to ensure that the boy never fall prey to Chrysalis's manipulation and false promises. And the solution that will prsent itself to her is to lie to Adrien about his father

It's not the first time that Marinette deviates from the path toward the future adult Bunnix came from, because when she succesfully gave Adrien a gift with her real name on it, that was when the dooemed Chat Blanc timeline was created, Marinette wasn't supposed to have been successfull in giving that gift with Adrien knowing it was from her. So maybe she's not supposed either to tell Adrien the truth right now, in a time when he would be too vulnerable to an akumatization from Chrysalis.

What do you all think about it ?

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No no you don't understand-

Sure Shadybug and Claw Noir don't have a Love Square. But like

Identities weren't the ONLY reason Adrien and Marinette couldn't be happy together, aside from Gabriel's meddling. There was also the latter's past trauma, the former's struggle to adapt to life (though he got there).

And now they know each other and they like each other, but they're still far away from where our Adrien and Marinette even started, they don't even have Tikki or Plagg able to speak to have someone to confide in.

Hesperia is gonna have to look after them. What Alya, Nino, their classmates and relatives and near-entirety of the Miracle Box and all of Paris had to endure in the main universe, Hesperia's gonna have to relive it, with two partners that do know each other's identities but are horribly socially inept.

And that's not going with the fact around the same time, his son has been hanging a lot around the cute emo baker girl. He's gonna have the same problems with the same ship.

EVEN MORE INTENSIVELY AND TWICE AS MUCH

...and it took me until now to realize that alongside all that drama, Nooroo's hive mind and the fact he unified with Ladybug means he knows the former Shadybug is none other than Marinette, who's now both in love with Adrien, Gabriel's son, and for some reason flirting with the former Claw Noir.

If he ends up connecting the dots knowing Marinette's feelings for Adrien and Claw Noir are the exact same and vice versa, Nooroo will have even more drama and emotional frustration to feast upon knowing both new heroes' identities and being unable to tell his holder that Adrien repeatedly beat Gabriel up and tried to take his Miraculous (but at the same time, could steer them towards spending more time together as a family, the very thing Hawk Moth/Monarch failed to do with his son).

No one but the butterflies know about the Enemies to Lovers insanity going on in Reverse Paris.

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