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So I restarted the Supernatural pilot (for research purposes) and what exactly happened to the kid's body? Did the woman in white eat his body? I need answers damn it.

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So, I thought with dude on the bridge, they were going for arterial spray (or a really impressive nose bleed) (I’m kidding) (am I?), then I assumed after she incapacitated him, she tossed him/drowned him (if he wasn’t dead already) in the river, a la her own suicide.

I didn’t get what was with the blood spurt thing, the drowning part made sense to me, and writing-wise I personally woulda had it pull back to a wide shot of the rear of the car, shown it shaking, hear him screaming, etc., then the cops say they’re gonna drag the river, that maybe he jumped, etc., because all that tracks with what they learn about her, and the lack of body lets them have their backstory of disappearances over the years. So I figured the blood stuff was likely just for shock value.

Fast-forward to later, at the end, we see her try to put her hand/fingers into Sam’s chest. Ah-HA! Okay, Kripke, okay. I feel you. This a heart thing? ‘Cause she’s like, you ripped my heart out, you cheating bastard, so I’m gonna do the same to you? That’s good too, I dig it, and it answers the Q of wtf was with the spurt on rando dude earlier.

They just shoulda been clear on it - if I’m right, that is - and I legit like the heart angle. And that could’ve been an easy line to work in by one of the guys after Sam experienced it - “I know what she’s doing! She feels like her heart was ripped out, so that’s what she’s doing to cheaters!” - something of that ilk. Who knows, maybe something got axed from the final draft that would’ve made it all a touch clearer. (And yes, suspend disbelief that the cops wouldn’t have found all those punched-in sternum, missing heart bodies as the years passed.)

Final verdict: heart rip —> river toss

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Can’t remember the layout of the garage? Not sure of what’s actually kept in the dungeon? Vaguely remember an infirmary from season 9 but need to know where it is in relation to everything else?

Answers to these questions and many more can now be found at Bunker Blueprints, the website I spent the last couple weeks building because of that Men of Letters AU @zmediaoutlet and I have been writing.

It’s not fully finished–probably won’t be as long as the show keeps running–but close enough that I feel it’s ready to go public.

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Yes, that was on purpose...

....RE: This, and “canon”-driving vs. “cannon”-driving, I do know the diff, it’s a pet peeve, matter of fact.

Somebody picked up on it because - bless their heart - they understand my brain, which is awesome on some levels and frightening on others. But wanted to FYI the rest of ye swabbies & landlubbers alike. Arrrrgghhh, etc. #have your parrots spayed and neutered

Okay, there, I’m done.

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Friend pointed this out to me, with their repeat emphasis on IT’S CANON AF & I am cackling with laughter, had to share. 🤣🤣🤣 I need a throw pillow or just something to throw in general with IT'S CANON AF in blazing bold font on it, applies not just to comic/TV/movies, but *everything* - my mind immediately went to science/science-deniers, matter of fact. But, to be sure, cross-filed under #SPN Tangentially 

And, I mean, also tangentially with what is clearly robust scientific evidence on my part, there’s THIS and THIS. #thank me later  #I love it when things #come full circle

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DEAR NASH, re: Endeanments, I’ve been spending my mornings watching TNT’s reruns of Supernatural. In the episode where Bela enlists Dean as her date to steal the Hand of Glory (S3), she pretends to faint, and story is, he’s her husband. He starts lightly shaking her and calling her “honey”. In the Ben/Lisa season, when Lisa is injured, he calls her “honey” while carrying her to safety. This might be a Dean-ism, or it might be some Jensen slipping through, as we often see him quote (continued)

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There ya go, folks - the very astute @becominglionhearted has taken care of some recon for ya, looks like you’re a-go when it comes to honey. And OF COURSE your input is always welcome, my honey bear. You’re right, we’d have to have access to the orig scriptage to know if that’s a JA givin’ it the ol’ slip-in [#not a euphemism] or no, but regardless, a good one for the list. 

And I tell ya, I tend to think for all his posturing [Demon!Dean-age aside], I suspect Dean’s a slow roll in the sack. Sam seems to get right after it [Ruby thing, Bela fantasy], and not that they have to be opposites or something, or that it never varies, but the Rhonda Hurley thing [for example] makes me suspect he’s a “Tell me what you want” kinda guy, focused, mission-oriented, not inherently chatty, as it were. YMMV, of course.

Oh, and PS: was gonna write you anyway, ‘cause this…

….makes *me* happy to hear! 

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“Endeanments” Quick Ref

I was asked to whip up an “Endeanments” [sigh... #nobody’s proud] quick ref of the assessments/thoughts discussed HERE.

Assuming canon accuracy is a priority, my first suggestion for drilling down on what “nickname” Dean would give your RI/OC romantic interest is considering who that RI/OC is & what they’re about, then comparing them to his “real deal” relationships from the show. Look at the post above.

Regarding his established behavior with others in general, whether of a romantic sort, a platonic sort, for himself, and for randoms, here’s his overall pattern:

  1. Shortens given name [e.g. - Cas, Zeke]
  2. Adds a “-y” [e.g. - Sammy]
  3. Draws from movies/TV/books/music [e.g. - “Dumbledork”, “Dr. Quinn Medicine Zombie”; though not nicknames, also the go-to for aliases]
  4. Draws from the situation at hand [e.g. - “Weirdy Mc Weirderton”, “Slicey McHackey” - and note also the “-y” here, as well]

Hope that helps!

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Hot Takes & Long Winds.

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NASH I AM SO FRIGGIN' HEART EYES OVER THIS POST I CAN'T EVEN PROPERLY EXPRESS HOW HEART EYES I AM. Dean calling anybody sweetheart in an endearing way throws me RIGHT OUT of the fic.

@niamandthings - Talking about things that throw us off... tangentially related, that is... I am marinating on the idea of a post regarding statistical significance of canon boo-boos, whether it is on our parts [fanfic writers] or the SPN writers’ parts. Put another way: the weight fandom assigns these boo-boos, assuming they are legit & not rooted in some sort of hive-mind growth not based in fact [ahem-sweetheart-ahem]. 

Since in research, you toss the ones that are outliers - on sweetheart, it’s a slam dunk because they’d have to go on for *many* more seasons with a near-complete reversal in course for this data to be rendered null, then *further* in order to swing “sweetheart” into an actual endearment. 

Recent past specifically - the oopsy-doodle of them scripting Michael as younger than Lucifer, peeps are quite nonplussed on that one, and I’ve also seen upset over Dean “not being a neat-freak anymore”. Having not investigated either myself, my current hot take? Based on evidence I’ve seen presented? The former was a real fuck-up. The latter, I’ve personally not seen sufficient evidence to support Dean being a “neat freak” in the first place. [shrugs]

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“Sweetheart,” Dean said, looking right into her eyes, “I think you should...”

Careful! How you finish that line is gonna make-or-break how well you’ve captured Dean Winchester in that fic you’re working on. Why, you may ask? Keep reading. And to you who are familiar with this topic… 

Impressive analysis right here, complete with examples and graphs. Read it, it will make us all better.

I thank you much @butiaintgonnaloveem - and the charts are shite but I do love me a visual aid to break up the word monotony. ;)

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Nash I am 100% in agreement with you on Dean and "sweetheart". 99% of the time HE USES IT CONDESCENDINGLY. And I wish more fic writers would understand that.

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[nods solemnly at our camaraderie on this issue]

Hey, @niamandthings - Wanna see a statistic geek hour’s worth of life I’ll never get back? And [spoiler] how your 99/100 estimate was dead-on?

Sure you do.

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Spoiled By Spielberg: A Counterpoint On The SPN Pilot.

impandagrl reblogged your photo and added:

For your information (mostly in answer to your tags), my mom thought it was horrifying…

@impandagrl  - Lookit, I see Momma Panda’s point. I do. And maybe it’s a mom thing in general - the creep factor of a stranger being over your kid’s crib. I loved the shadowy figure she thought was her husband. I loved the groggily going to get a bottle. I loved the pit-in-your-stomach feeling of seeing said husband is fast asleep downstairs.

Here’s where I diverge. The CGI fire should die in a fire. They homage the hell out of stuff on that show [waves to this week’s ep]. They had a perfect movie to homage, they should’ve homaged all over its face. 

If you *must* have a force propel your mom to the ceiling? Stick with the good ol’ fashioned “Everything seems fine!”, and then WHOOP there she goes:

Then have your fire, light that house up like it’s Christmas Eve and Rudolph sneezed.

And this is my idea of what demonic shizz in your kid’s room looks like:

Can you imagine? John’s trying to wrestle the crib away from getting sucked into the closet when ol’ hepatitis eyes pulls Mary up a wall and to the ceiling? And John’s got a Sophie’s Choice thing of - save my baby or save my wife?

Dude.

Anyway, while I’ve got you - in another timeline, one where Azazel and his partners missed getting hold of Sammy as a baby, here’s what happened:

I’m just kidding…. OR AM I 

@seenashwrite my opinions/observations/review pontification, Detox edition:

First and foremost: “homaged all over its face” = 20 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. Why? Because I squandered it, fruitlessly trying to come up with some kind of (read: ANY kind of) punderful “bukake + homage” linguistic mash-up masterpiece-type thing. 

Secondly: Someone needs to make some calls, set some wheels in motion, and green-light some shit because I WANT TO SEE THIS ON SCREEN. Big, small, it makes no difference. I’ll watch it on Netflix… I’ll stream it on the YouTube app on my tablet… I’ll pay $18 for an IMAX 3-D movie ticket, whatever it takes, man, I DON’T CARE. I’m not at all particular.

And finally: YOU JUST EXPLAINED WHY SAM IS AFRAID OF CLOWNS BETTER THAN ANY SPN WRITER EVER COULD OMG (I’m legit freaking out right now).

*no offense to any spn writer. sorry ‘bout it.

This is some of the finest gifwork in a reply to a post [one that happens to be a brilliant one by me, humbly] that I’ve seen, from the one and only @hamartiamacguffin.

That we don’t live near one another is a blessing in disguise because neither of us would contribute anything worthwhile to the world ever again. We’d be busy finding more creative and inventive ways to snark on everything and everyone.

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Conversations With The Commissioner: In Which Nash Loses Her G.D. Mind.

Not so long ago [last week], the following conversation took place...

The Commissioner: I saw in the ep notes that you had a bit of resuscitation praise. In the Samarra ep.

Me: [blank look]

The Commissioner: You know - when Dean wanted to chat with Death.

Me: [shrugs] I mean, awesome Freddy doc  saw a flatline and he had Hello Nurse inject adrenaline. Which, I mean [grumble] Amiodarone [sigh] you know, he didn't just go CLEAR and shock and all, so...

The Commissioner: Was that praise?

Me: It doesn't mean... I just... Imma snap. This is it. This is the beginning of the regrets.

The Commissioner: You're fussing with the next chapter too much and you just need to pull the trigger.

Me: Speaking of pulling triggers [digs through notes]

The Commissioner: Go ahead and just ask me about what's bothering you.

Me: You don't want this.

The Commissioner: Nash.

Me: Re-think this.

The Commissioner: Nash, just open up and let it--

Me: IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

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Here In My Garage: Canon Fodder, Round 3

The Commissioner: I bet you’ve already heard that--

Me: That Greer is not reading the story for funsies? That this is about finding mistakes? 

The Commissioner: He’s just--

Me: Even though there’s that folder with about a thousand screenshots of that unnav... innav... IT’S HARD TO NAVIGATE WRITING FOR A BUNKER THAT’S ACTUALLY A MISH-MOSH OF SEPARATE SETS [mumbles]

The Commissioner: But in chapter twelve... see - here, in the garage: you’ve got them on a staircase going *up*, and there’s no--

The Commissioner: What?

Me: There isn’t, but you know what is? 

Me: 3  Greers: 0

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Nash v. The Commissioner, Round 2: Canon Fodder

The Commissioner: Greer has a concern.

Me: Screw Greer.

The Commissioner: I kinda agree with him. There’s a canon mistake, sug.

Me: [much arrogance] Nope.

The Commissioner: [ignores] You mention Sam pulling a blanket from the dryer at the Bunker. We don’t know that they have one.

Me: [stares] They have a metric ton of computer-y stuff and a thousand bedrooms, are in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of men at various points, and you think they don’t have a washer/dryer?

The Commissioner: [shrugs]

Me: Okay, (A) screw Greer--

The Commissioner: Copy that.

Me: --and (B) the Bunker was built in 1935 and domestic washers/dryers became popular in the US in the late ‘40s/early '50s. Abaddon didn’t bust ‘em up til late ‘50s.

The Commissioner: Fine.

Me: SCREW GREER

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Conversations with The Commissioner: Canon Fodder, Round 1

Originally posted on that blog we ditched ‘cause we liked y’all better. And listen, straight up skip this if you (A) don’t give a rip about the story and/or (B) don’t give a crap about a painfully detailed assessment of Azazel & the Special Children. We’re just cleaning out folders here, folks.

Carry on - Nash.

Wednesday, December 7, 2016 A Very Special Canon Fodder Post: The Special Children of SPN

The Commissioner:  I found a canon mistake.  Well, two actually.

Me: Hit me.

The Commissioner: First chapter - Sam's loading dishes into the dishwasher. A non-existent dishwasher. 

Me: [stares] You don't think that they'll have gotten a dishwasher by season whatever-the-hell we're idealizing this to be?

The Commissioner: .....

Me: Noted. Next?

The Commissioner: Also chapter one, you have Sam saying if Jane were a Special Child, it'd be the first time there was two in one family.  There were those twins.

Me: Hell's bells, I cannot believe I'm having to explain this.

The Commissioner:  You can just edit the chapter.

Me:  No.  I'm not wrong.

The Commissioner:  You're wrong, I re-watched the episode.

Me:  I'm not wrong.

The Commissioner:  You're a mule.

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