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Hello! I wanted to know if you knew how many hours a week a patient in a psychiatric hospital interacts with a psychiatrist. I’ve heard that it’s about a half-hour to an hour a day? But I’m not sure how reliable that information is. Thank you!

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At the psych ward I worked at, 30 minutes to an hour was the usual amount of time for the first time the patient met with the psychiatrist. 

Psychiatrists did meet with all the patients every day, but after that first session, the meetings were generally very quick, typically anywhere from 5-20 minutes.

This rush is because all of our psychiatrists saw outpatients in the afternoons. Our area is seriously underserved, meaning that there are nowhere near enough psychiatrists for the amount of people who need to see them. 

Note: This is what I personally saw when I was working in an inpatient psych ward in a rural setting. Other hospitals have different policies / ways of doing things. 

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Personal Experience: The route to diagnosis, c-PTSD and anorexia nervosa edition

CW: eating disorders (anorexia), child abuse, substance abuse mention

//This might be under the jurisdiction of the trauma blog, but I’ll go ahead and submit. //

It is incredibly frustrating when you get misdiagnosed. The only thing more frustrating than months of ill-targeted therapy and medications that don’t help is having to go through the ordeal more than once. And that’s what happened to me.

My troubles started in late teens, I was having violent mood swings and just couldn’t predict how I’d feel in the next couple of hours. It was exhausting. Prior to that, I was a docile and withdrawn child and I went through continuous abuse and several traumatic events from the ages of 9-15. It was as if something inside my brain broke and the flood of emotions couldn’t be held back.

My first visit to the psychiatrist was uneventful. My official diagnosis was “hormones” and a desire to skip school. My mother agreed. Then came insomnia, obsession with my diet, nightmares, periods of depression, extreme distrust in everything and everyone combined with a pathological “clinginess” . Since I had no access to mental health resources, I self medicated with increasing amounts of illicit substances. Then it was apparent I had a problem. The second psychiatrist was determined that I had rapid - cycling Bipolar disorder (I). Needless to say, the medications didn’t do anything except make my symptoms worse. I knew something was wrong, yet I had no way of helping myself constructively. I was already underweight, with a bmi of 16, but it wasn’t seen as a big deal because of shitty Eastern European culture.

Eventually, I completely discontinued all my medications, got financially independent, moved to the UK, while remaining equally miserable and adding a substance abuse problem to the mix.

In the UK I was able to get better help, to an extent. The diagnosis that I had stuck on my forehead for a long time was BPD and my eating disorder was finally addressed. I didn’t agree, but it didn’t really matter. The little amount of DBT that I received was, however, incredibly helpful. It might’ve saved my life. After this whole incredibly boring story, the ultimate conclusion was that I didn’t have a personality disorder or a mood disorder. I had, and still do have a thing they call complex PTSD, and according to my understanding it is caused by prolonged trauma instead of a particular traumatizing event.

The diagnosis was huge for me because I could finally admit to myself that I was, in fact, abused and that instead of running from the memories and feelings I needed to deal with them constructively. My personality wasn’t flawed per se. There was still hope that I would become complete.

The moral of the story is - shit happens. Misdiagnoses happen. Especially when symptoms overlap or you don’t have a typical presentation. From what I’ve heard from other sufferers, c-PTSD is often mistaken for something else. It’s too common to be my unfortunate coincidence or a fundamental flaw of a post-communist medical system.

[Thank you for sharing your personal experiences! - Shrink]

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Anonymous asked:

What usually goes on in a psychiatric first assessment?

This is a bit vague, and it really depends on what exactly you mean by “psychiatric”, as it’s a word often confused with “psychological”.

Psychiatry deals with the medical & medication side of treating mental illness. The first session with a psychiatrist typically focuses on getting an accurate medical history and finding out what symptoms the client is experiencing so the psychiatrist can figure out what medicines to prescribe.

If that’s not what you meant, let me know and I’ll throw up a post on psychological assessments!

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I'm writing about a character suffering from Major Depressive Disorder and I had a question about medication combinations. In the story her psychiatrist and her therapist by proxy become worried that the combination of medications she's on might be causing an increase to her anxiety or desire to self harm and want to change what she's taking. Is this a realistic situation? What medications could she be on? Thank you!!

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CW: self-harm, suicide

Yes, totally possible. While antidepressants are often used to treat anxiety disorders, they can also cause symptoms related to anxiety too. It’s most frequently described as jitteriness, but there are more symptoms associated with it as well (scroll down to table one here).

 Two drugs are especially associated with causing anxiety: imipramine (Tofranil) and fluoxetine (Prozac). Of those two, I would lean towards Prozac, as it’s considered a first-line treatment and is extremely common. Tofranil is a bit outdated and rarely used anymore.

Note - Typically the anxiety occurs within the first few weeks of treatment, and it actually does go away fairly quickly. A psychiatrist may try to see if the anxiety symptoms go away before switching to a different drug. 

Now, the self-harm is a bit of a different story. All antidepressants may potentially increase the risk of suicidal tendencies in children, adolescents, and young adults (ie under the age of 25 or so). 

Because this question was sent off anon, the Shrink asked how old this character is, and she’s 17. A psychiatrist could easily see an increased desire to self-harm as a warning sign that this specific antidepressant may be making your character suicidal. That’s definitely enough to merit changing what medication she’s on!

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Why might one antidepressant be prescribed over another? For example, why might a patient take Prozac over Wellbutrin or vice versa? Thank you love your blog!!

There are a lot of factors!

  1. What specific symptoms are being treated (certain drugs treat certain symptoms more effectively)
  2. What side effects the drugs have / what the character is willing to put up with
  3. What medications the prescribing doctor is the most familiar with.
  4. Patient factors (how old they are, what they’ve taken in the past, what they’re currently taking, their medical history / comorbid disorders, if they are or want to become pregnant, etc.)

Three random examples of things a psychiatrist could consider, off the top of my head:

If someone has insomnia as part of their depression, they might be prescribed Remeron / Mirtazapine (to be taken at night) because it is likely to help them sleep.

If a character also has ADHD, Strattera / Atomoxetine might be an option.

One class of antidepressants, MAO inhibitors, are almost never prescribed without the patient trying a lot of other antidepressants first. This is because you have to follow an extremely strict diet or risk death. And by “strict diet” I mean that you can’t eat cheese, cured or processed meats, anything with soy, or drink beer (among many other things). If the character is willing to put up with that diet, and nothing else has worked for them so far, MAOIs might be an option; otherwise, they’re not going to be prescribed.

There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of little things like that to consider when prescribing psychotropic medications. That’s why they pay psychiatrists the big bucks.

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An anon pointed out that the qualities of the drug itself matter! For instance, some drugs need to be taken at the exact same time of day to be effective; some drugs also need to be taken multiple times a day!

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Anonymous asked:

Why might one antidepressant be prescribed over another? For example, why might a patient take Prozac over Wellbutrin or vice versa? Thank you love your blog!!

There are a lot of factors!

  1. What specific symptoms are being treated (certain drugs treat certain symptoms more effectively)
  2. What side effects the drugs have / what the character is willing to put up with
  3. What medications the prescribing doctor is the most familiar with.
  4. Patient factors (how old they are, what they’ve taken in the past, what they’re currently taking, their medical history / comorbid disorders, if they are or want to become pregnant, etc.)

Three random examples of things a psychiatrist could consider, off the top of my head:

If someone has insomnia as part of their depression, they might be prescribed Remeron / Mirtazapine (to be taken at night) because it is likely to help them sleep.

If a character also has ADHD, Strattera / Atomoxetine might be an option.

One class of antidepressants, MAO inhibitors, are almost never prescribed without the patient trying a lot of other antidepressants first. This is because you have to follow an extremely strict diet or risk death. And by “strict diet” I mean that you can’t eat cheese, cured or processed meats, anything with soy, or drink beer (among many other things). If the character is willing to put up with that diet, and nothing else has worked for them so far, MAOIs might be an option; otherwise, they’re not going to be prescribed.

There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of little things like that to consider when prescribing psychotropic medications. That’s why they pay psychiatrists the big bucks.

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Anonymous asked:

I have a few questions I was hoping you could answer! :) What do you feel is one of the most common misconceptions you see in writing about therapists/psychologists/psychiatrists? Also, in a character with severe C-PTSD who would be best for them to see out of the three? Is it possible to see more than one? How often would one of the above see someone with severe C-PTSD? Would twice a week be excessive? Not enough? etc. Thank you for your time and providing us all with so much info!

I’d say one of the misconceptions that really pisses me off is the idea that all therapists are Freudian. I really hate Freud.

For intense trauma work, meeting with a psychologist twice a week is pretty reasonable.

With severe mental illnesses, it’s typically recommended to see a psychiatrist in addition to a psychologist in order to be prescribed medications. A character would typically see a psychiatrist roughly once a month or so (less often if the character has remained stable on their medications). CPTSD and PTSD are a little squidgy because there aren’t really medications that deal specifically with those disorders, but sometimes SSRIs or a drug like Prazosin would be prescribed.

For the rest of your questions, I’ve got a few posts in my archives that I think you should check out!

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Personal Experience: Medication “Experiments”

Randomly thought of this because of recent events in my life, and if this has been said/is too much of a rant please delete and ignore, but I just remembered that doctors are weird about “experimenting”.

I took Zoloft for my bipolar for roughly five years. It gradually started to lessen in effect, even as we upped my dosage. So we switched to a different medication, can’t remember the name, that completely muffled my mania. It either made me depressed, or my depression finally had a chance to shine, but either way, it wasn’t right. I hated it, I wanted off, I wanted a different medication. My doctor decided to add an antidepressant instead, because I was a minor and had no say over what I took. The antidepressant helped a little, but it made me so “blah” that everyone noticed. Even the kids at school, who usually avoided me, started to notice something was different. And according to the doctor, that was what normal people felt like (yes, she said normal, which is a great thing to say to a depressed, suicidal child who feels alienated from his peers already). Normal was blah. Normal was empty. Normal was wanting to die but being too afraid to do it.

We switched psychiatrists. The new doctor took me straight off the meds I was on (no weaning, just told me to stop taking them) and said “we’ll have to experiment”. That’s also around the time I learned that I was always being put on new things. Nothing tried and true, just the newest drugs they could get their hands on. Stuff they didn’t know what the effects would be. And all adverse effects were met with “We’ll wait and see if it gets sorted out.”

This all came to the front of my mind because we changed my meds again just this month. My doctor is taking me off Abilify (finally a drug that didn’t give side effects, but still stopped working), which I’ve only been on for a few months, and putting me on Latuda. We’re also increasing my anxiety medication. He’s the only psychiatrist I’ve had who’s been careful about choosing my meds, but it’s still scary to hear the word “experiment” coming from a doctor.

So to anyone looking to write someone who’s been on and off a lot of meds, please remember that it’s just. So exhausting. So scary. So infuriating. And the words doctors choose affect the way you view medication your whole life.

[[It’s been a while since I got a submission! Thank you for sharing your personal experiences - Shrink]]

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Anonymous asked:

How do doctors prescribe depression medication? Say, for instance, a young male, mid-20s, develops resistance or gets used to medication fairly quickly. Would the doctor prescribe a higher dosage each time, or would they wean him under supervision and then continue the same dosage?

When a psychotropic medication isn’t working, there are a couple of different options. 

  • Increase the dosage and see if it starts working.
  • Taper off of the drug and try a different one.
  • Add another drug in addition to the current prescription.

Which is chosen depends on the doctor; there’s benefits and drawbacks for each option.

Typically, if a character developed tolerance to a medication quickly, and increasing the dosage did not work, they would not be tapered off and put back on it. There are a lot of other antidepressants out there (~30 FDA approved medications for treating depression, and god knows how many other drugs that are prescribed off-label for it), so it doesn’t make sense to waste time putting your character back on a medication that they already know won’t work for very long.

And as an FYI, when someone has severe depression that’s resistant to many different medications, ECT might be recommended as a treatment.

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Anonymous asked:

I read that taking some antidepressants (Prozac in particular) can worsen suicidal thoughts and therefore family/friends should keep a close eye on whoever begins taking them. Is this true and if so, what might happen if a character who starts taking antidepressants does not have a support system

CW: suicidal ideation

It is indeed possible for a character to become suicidal after beginning to take antidepressants (which is actually the reason for the so-called “Black Box” warning that accompanies those medications).

If a character doesn’t have a support system like you describe, they may be scheduled to see their therapist and psychiatrist more frequently than before to make sure that they’re not having bad side effects. The therapist would also likely make sure that your character knows about other emergency supports available to them, such as suicide hotlines and voluntary hospitalization.

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Anonymous asked:

Heya!! First off, thank you :) second, does medication for straight up depression make manic episodes worse in a bipolar person? (Type ii if that matters?) I've gotten contradictory results from my own research and would appreciate your expertise:) thank you again!!

You’ve been getting conflicting answers because there are a lot of different groups of medications that can be used to treat depression. Many antidepressants can make mania worse, or even induce a manic episode - but not all of them do. 

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Yeah, it varies massively not even in the group of medication, but the medication itself and the person taking it.

For example - my first hypomanic episode was triggered by fluoxetine (prozac) within the first 3 weeks of me taking it. It’s an SSRI.

My second SSRI, sertraline (zoloft) had the opposite effect. I ended up feeling kinda “meh” all the time. Not depressed, but not hypomanic either. And that never changed.

But I have friends who have had entirely opposite experiences! A friend took sertraline and ended up hospitalised for mania, but fluoxetine had absolutely no impact on her mood.

It’s worth noting that psychiatrists will occasionally prescribe antidepressants to a patient with bipolar, if they’re in a severe depressive episode or they’re typically depressed with only occasional (hypo)manic episodes (which is common in most people with Bipolar II if I remember correctly). But they’ll be monitored closely during the treatment.

Thanks for your addition to this post! Take note, Anon!

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Anonymous asked:

Can you please please please explain the different types of psychological jobs that have to do with helping people through a situation?

I’m not 100% sure what you mean by this, but I’ll give it my best shot.

Therapist: A general term that refers to any mental health professional that sees clients in a therapy context. This is sometimes used interchangeably with “counselor”, but on this blog I exclusively use the first definition.

Psychiatrist: medical doctors that prescribe psychotropic medications. They do a little therapy too. They can diagnose mental illnesses. Typically, they work with more severe mental illnesses that can’t be treated with therapy alone.

Psychologist: also doctors, but PhD or PsyD, not medical doctors. These are the talky talky ones. They can diagnose mental illnesses and administer psychological testing. They usually cannot prescribe medications, but it depends on the state. 

Counselor: someone with less training than psychologists (a master’s degree). They can do therapy stuff, but they cannot diagnose mental illnesses. Typically, they don’t deal with severe, chronic mental illness; instead, their focus tends to be more on helping people who have acute problems.

Social worker: someone with a bachelor’s or master’s degree (a master’s is required if they want to practice therapy). Their goal is improving well-being and help people overcome challenges (poverty, addiction, etc.) in their lives. Typically, they work with more vulnerable / disadvantaged populations.

There’s also a few others that don’t require licensing:

Religious leader: Titles and roles vary greatly by religion, but overall, anyone who gives advice / support to any of their congregation who’s going through a tough time.

Life coach: someone with zero qualifications that gives “”advice”” on life / business stuff. 

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Hi!! I'm really hoping that I'm sending this in right :) Thanks so much for putting together this blog! I'm writing a character who has depression. Is it realistic for a 17 year old boy to be diagnosed? If yes, what kind of medication and therapy would he be dealing with? And how long would it likely last? Thank you so much!!

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The Scriptshrink consultants provide their personal experiences with being treated for depression after the jump.

CW: Various medications are discussed.

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