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I think it’s really important to remember that Steve’s perspective, coming in to Civil War, is still very heavily influenced by WWII. The movie calls back to this significantly in a few instances, and for good reason; WWII was a global clusterfuck. Governments made bad choices, some worse than others, and a lot of people died before alliances of nations bothered to get involved. Even the ‘good guys’ made the call to drop atomic weapons, which would be a recent discovery for Steve. He was shit at taking orders then, same as now, because Steve has always done what he personally saw as right, knowing that governments and councils might not make the moral call, or might wait too long to make it. 

We see this when Tony busts out FDR’s fountain pens, apparently in some attempt to appeal to Steve’s nostalgia. But Steve has lived through the war those pens brought his country in to, and seen the far-reaching consequences of one man signing a document – it’s not something he can take lightly. 

He’s still almost on board though, until Wanda being held in the compound comes up. And the word Steve uses then is very important:

Internment.

The internment of American citizens of Japanese ancestry is not a distant memory to Steve; for him, it happened only a few years ago, and his friend and comrade-in-arms, Jim Morita, would probably have had family in internment camps. All supposedly for the greater good and safety of the nation. Steve balking and balking hard makes a lot of sense; even if Wanda is technically in a cushy situation, what happens when more enhanced people turn up? Ones Tony doesn’t have room for? What precedent is set for imprisoning them if he agrees to this? 

Steve has always been about the individual right to choose what is moral. The kid who didn’t want to kill anybody, just stop the bullies, is the same guy who doesn’t want to sign over his will and his shield to others, to step in and follow orders given to him, regardless of what they are.

(Steve remembers all too clearly the acts of men just following orders.)

It is my personal belief that Steve absolutely would have been willing to accept the idea of an oversight committee, if the team had been at all included in the negotiations.  If they had been approached at any time after the fall of SHIELD, as participating members in finding the solution to the problem of collateral damage, he would have absolutely been behind it. 

I feel that the reason he was not behind it was that his gut was pinging HARD about the trap General Ross was driving them into.  It absolutely hit hard on the memory triggers Steve had of the behavior of his own country and others during WWII, and he absolutely would have believed that once he’d signed it, no matter what sneaky, evil subclause was hiding in the fine print, he’d be personally bound by it in a way that others on the team probably wouldn’t feel they were.  Tony’s statement of ‘we’ll amend it later’ would have sounded like nonsense to him, because in his world, that is not how it works.  Once your name is on the paper, you have to do what the paper says.

Steve would definitely have accepted oversight – if he and the rest of the Avengers had been allowed to participate in setting it up, to argue their case, and to be sure what they were laboring under was just, instead of being clapped with it as if they were all enemy combatants and raw materials to be laid claim to. 

He was getting ready to sign when shit went down. Also, when it comes down to it, you need a reason for Cap and Tony to fight, a plausible reason, because Tony cares about (and still somewhat idolizes) Cap, and who would Cap fight Tony for? Bucky. To get Tony to fight Cap, you had to have him find out about Bucky as the Winter Soldier killing Tony’s parents, or would you rather have had some egomanicial stereotype villain making them fight each other? (and then find out their mothers had the same name? A fake death and resurrection and then besties? Or a complex, character driven narrative that carries on into the Infinity War films?

Steve’s very good reasons/reservations/motivations would have been a lot more clear if the movie had actually spared a scene for him to explain them. The narrative made Steve appear unreasonable and uncompromising by not letting him actually say what his reservations are, ask more important questions, or defend his/their actions when appropriate (like NY wasn’t on them! Nor was DC). Also, the movie really dropped the ball in not reminding everyone who General Ross is and why his involvement should have made everyone hella suspicious. 

The accords were always a disaster in the making

I can’t stop chewing over this huge plot hole and I think until I write this down, I won’t stop, so even though I know no one is going to read this, I have to put it down in words. Ever since the first trailer for Captain America: Civil War, I’ve had this huge WHAT THE FUCK reaction that I’ve been holding on to, hoping that the movie would somehow make the UN sanctioned accords make sense to me, or at the very least, the side objecting to them would point out what a huge, huge mistake this would be with actual, you know, facts. That exist. In the world. And I was really stunned that at no point did anyone point out what a disaster they could be, because of what an actualfax disaster the UN has often been at oversight and peacekeeping. 

It would have taken less than ten minutes for them to dig up some real-world examples of disastrous policies that led to the slaughter of thousands of innocent people, and given those arguments to someone on the team as a basis for their suspicion of what the accords intended to do. But I’m equally baffled by why they had Tony and Rhodey coming out in favor of the accords and the UN and Thunderbolt Ross, for god’s sake, when they would know these things because of the nature of their jobs, and Vision because he has access to all that information in the databanks.

If you’re not familiar with the giant shitstorm that is often UN peacekeeping work and human rights oversight, here are a couple of Greatest Hits for you–and these are just a few that have happened within Tony’s and Rhodey’s lifetime. 

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No-one who was involved in the writing knows how the U.N. works. Nor do they care. If there wasn’t a movie about it, they don’t know any history, either.

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