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hoenn girl

@savethesvmulet / savethesvmulet.tumblr.com

umbreon. 18. en&es. misty stan. used to be savethesamulet.
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inkbleeder

“If Castiel had been played by a woman, Destiel would be canon.”

I am SO tired of this goddamn stupid argument.

If Castiel had been played by a woman, there would be even more posts about how Dean keeps constantly putting her and her achievements down and using her for his own benefit while completely forgetting about her when it isn’t convenient.

If Castiel had been played by a woman, that scene in season 10 in which Dean beats her up would be 10000% even MORE disturbing that it already is and people wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss it and justify it with “BUT DEAN WAS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE MARK!”

If Castiel had been played by a woman, all the times her autonomy has been violated would be even more gross, especially if in this genderbent version Naomi, Rowena and Apriel were played by men.

If Castiel had been played by a woman, season 6 would be a mess because then we would have a “Women going crazy with power!” trope.

If Castiel had been played by a woman, Dean being obssessed with her not dying a virgin and pressuring into having sex would be considered WAY creepier.

If Castiel had been played by a woman, there would be 300+ think pieces and posts about how she is STRONG and INDEPENDANT and SHE DIDN’T REBEL FOR DEAN, OKAY?!

But most importantly, if Castiel had been played by a woman, Destiel wouldn’t be a thing because she would have been killed off after three episodes because fandom would’ve hated her.

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You know what bothers me?

People calling Dean Jack’s “dad,” and Sam “Uncle Moose.” Um, no.

When Castiel was gone, SAM was the one raising Jack. Not Dean. SAM was the one who read parenting books and showed Jack kindness and love and helped him control his powers, and listened to him when he said he’d had enough.

Dean did nothing but emotionally abuse Jack, and telling a suicidal days-old kid he’d “end him.” For no reason other than what he was and who his father is.

I don’t care what his reasons were. I don’t give a crap that he lost Castiel and thought Mary was gone.

Sam Winchester has lost numerous people and suffered for far worse and far longer than Dean Winchester ever has, and he doesn’t turn into an emotionally abusive asshole when he’s lost hope.

Though to be fair, Dean abuses Sam on a regular basis even when he isn’t grieving, so I shouldn’t be surprised.

It bothers me that the only writer who really seems to hold Dean accountable for this is Meredith Glynn, and that every other writer, INCLUDING Eric Kripke himself has repeatedly given Dean a pass for his behavior, while whenever Sam makes a mistake, or even something that they think is a mistake that actually isn’t (demon blood, hooking up with Amelia, and trying to save Dean from the Mark), the other characters, including Sam himself, and the narrative condemn them.

It’s just not fair.

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yorugolden

there is no evidence John actually physically abused Dean (I’m not saying he didn’t, but canonically there’s no proof) but John did physically abuse  Sam, and Dean punched Sam plenty of times for punishment too, and Dean stans are … whining about Sam being abusive? and saying Sam and John are the same?

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lih67

When did John physically abuse Sam?

grabbing your son by the neck jacket is an abusive behavior

and he punched and shot Sam in the comic sequel of SPN series (which is written by Andrew Debb)

7x03 The Girl Next Door

YOUNG SAM tries to set the can of soda on the coffee table, but it falls off and spills.

YOUNG AMY

Oh! Crap.

YOUNG SAM

Sorry. I didn’t mean to.

YOUNG AMY

It’s just, if she sees it, you know, my mom will be so pissed.

YOUNG SAM

Yeah. It was just an accident.

YOUNG AMY

Yeah, well, she has a temper. Sometimes. It’s… no big deal.

YOUNG SAM

My dad does, too. You don’t want to see him when he’s drinking.

YOUNG AMY

My mom… I don’t think she’s a good person. Sometimes I don’t think I’m a good person, either.

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From this, we see that Amy is a direct parallel to Sam, and her feelings about “being a freak,” thinking she’s “not a good person,” and her isolation from society are subtextually about Sam and how John’s parenting has made him feel.

Further into Sam’s flashbacks:

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AMY’S MOTHER

Shut up! What is wrong with you, huh? You that stupid? Really? I already told you, you cannot have friends. This kid is food!

YOUNG AMY

No!

AMY’S MOTHER lets go of SAM and backhands YOUNG AMY. AMY’S MOTHER raises a fist to SAM.

AMY’S MOTHER

This’ll teach you.

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Since Amy’s mother is a subtextual John stand-in, and because Sam and Amy obviously relate about their parenting situation, we can infer that this isn’t much different from John. Futhermore, she grabs Sam much the same way John does in the provided gifs above ^^ and famously Sam was told by Dean (who was told by John) that they can’t have friends in this lifestyle, which he isn’t allowed to leave.

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1x08 Bugs

SAM

Remind you of somebody? (DEAN looks over at LARRY, who is yelling at MATT. He looks back at SAM, confused.) Dad?

DEAN

Dad never treated us like that.

SAM

Well, Dad never treated you like that. You were perfect. He was all over my case. You don’t remember?

DEAN

Well, maybe he had to raise his voice, but sometimes, you were out of line.

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Here is a verbal admission that Sam received this type of punishment from John on the regular, but not Dean, because the punishment was “justified.” John doled our punishment based on perceived transgressions. Dean didn’t break John’s rules, Sam did.

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The problem here isn’t that Dean is frustrated by the circumstances constantly getting thrown at them. I don’t blame him for that; in the Winchesters’ circumstances, I’d be frustrated, too. More than. But that’s not the issue I’m having. My issue is that, in expressing his desire for their circumstances to be better, he makes other people’s emotional suffering about him. Sam may be struggling with the traumatic fallout of Cas breaking his wall and uncovering his Hell memories? Wow, that must be scary for Dean. Mary might be struggling to find her place in the world after a confusing resurrection? Wow, that’s really inconvenient for Dean’s happiness.

It’s not that he’s not allowed to have feelings about Sam and Mary’s emotional trauma. He is. That’s a natural human reaction, and in fact, it’s good for you to care to care about the suffering of the people around you and want them to be okay. But in making the suffering of the people around him about him, he inadvertently makes Sam feel like such a burden that he decides not to talk about his hallucinations, and dehumanizes both Sam and Mary. And yeah, Sam was spot on in that last gif. Mary isn’t a “thing,” and neither is he. It’s not just when Sam is addicted to demon blood that Dean dehumanizes him (though that was awful too.) Dean sees Sam’s struggles as a burden on himself rather than on Sam, and that is dehumanization. Dean sees Mary’s struggles as the barrier between him and happiness, and that is dehumanization.  And for Sam, who is the primary and most obvious victim of Dean’s dehumanization, to say, not in quite so many words, “no, she’s not a thing, she’s a person, and we gotta treat her like one” is incredibly powerful.

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I really wanna do a post Apocalyptic-spn verse 🤔 I’m not sure what kind tho, I’m not all that found of Zombies so maybe something more Fallout/Mad Max like

The apocalypse happened bc someone finally told Dean to shut up, The monsters were just people who still stan Dean in 2018 for some reason

YFYCHVJJCCJCHHCCHYXHCJCJY

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I don’t know how old this send me a ship thing is but what about sastiel

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I personally do not ship Sastiel if only because I don’t feel like the Winchesters would do anything with Jimmy Novak’s body (no matter how many times it’s been put back together for Cas) without Jimmy Novak’s consent lol. Even after the point that his soul is gone, it’s still his exact body, and if someone was having sex with MY exact body… I would wanna be able to have a say if I was cool with that or not. Cuz it’s a littley rapey otherwise, no matter which way you look at it. 

But I do completely see WHY people would ship Sastiel, especially on a scale of ‘what makes more sense, Sastiel or Destiel’! Between the two, Sastiel makes 10 times more sense! Sam is infinitely more kind, sweet, indulgent, understanding, and patient with Castiel! It’s actually pretty cute. He cares deeply for Cas, has ALWAYS respected him even all the way back in S4 when he was star struck over him being an angel, and isn’t afraid to show it, and it results in some lovely scenes between the pair!Dean meanwhile is painfully often throwing Castiel’s past mistakes in his face, often makes him feel like utter shit, has been nothing BUT disrespectful to him since s4 and it’s only increased, and is constantly abandoning Cas when Cas needs him most. (S6 when Cas needed someone to talk to about Heaven’s war ultimately leading to Cas going Godstiel, told Cas that NOBODY cared that he was broken in S7, made Cas feel like suuuuch shit that he felt he had to steer clear in S8 Purgatory, then there was S9 when abandoning Cas meant leaving him to Metatron’s clutches, S10 when he asked Cas if him having an angel army again was just gonna be a Godstiel repeat, all things caused by Dean not giving enough of a damn about Cas at all, etc.) Dean just 9 times outta 10 makes Castiel feel like an idiot baby, and just doesn’t respect him and opts to tear him down instead. That doesn’t say anything ‘sweet/cute/romantic’ to me, it says hella toxic things to me. …And we’re not even including all the times Castiel has physically beat the shit outta Dean. :/ Just not good any direction it’s looked at. So yes. Between the two? To me personally Sastiel is the better ship because Sam treats Castiel right and Dean does not. But I personally ship neither lol. 

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waterbird13

Prompt: when they put the needles in Sam's head, it tweaked something - turns out, it reawakened (some of) his psychic abilities.

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The first time Sam gets desperate during a hunt and makes a blessed silver knife move toward his outstretched hand is when they know something weird is going on.

Dean glares at him. “I thought you were done with that whole psychic bullshit,” he snarls.

Sam shrugs, because he thought he managed to be rid of the weirdness too, but here’s the obvious proof that that’s not precisely true, although he has no idea what, if anything, he did wrong in order to make this happen.

Still. They’re in the middle of a hunt, and Sam does have more immediate concerns to worry over. He uses the knife that’s causing all the trouble to begin with, stabbing the monster, and then a fight that had just been looking damn near impossible is over, then as the unexpected winners.

Dean is still glaring at him, has even backed up a few feet. “What the hell, Sam?” he demands.

Sam shrugs again, desperately. “Dean, I–”

“Save it,” Dean interrupts. “I’m calling Cas. And if we have to lock you down again…well, at least the dungeon should work.”

Sam shivers at the very thought.

Dean as this vicious glow to his eyes, one Sam would like to attribute to the Mark of Cain, but it was there years ago, when they went through this the first time, too. Sam doesn’t want to look his brother in the eyes, doesn’t want to see it.

“How can you think–” Sam begins, managing to summon some righteous anger through his fear.

“Drop it, Sammy,” Dean says, tiredly, like he’s the one finding out his life is changing, like he’s the one put upon. “Let’s go. See what Cas has to say, see what we have to do to sort your shit out again.”

Gnashing his teeth, Sam follows, if for no other reason than that he too is curious about what’s going on.

Cas looks Sam over, then shrugs. “I don’t know what you expect,” he says. “You were the one who allowed Crowley to shove needles into his head. It reawakened what has always been there.”

“So you’re saying this is my fault?” Dean demands.

Sam thinks Cas might even roll his eyes. “Sam being in that position was indeed your fault, Dean. But his powers are not. They are just a part of him, one he did his best to forget until Crowley’s needles woke them up. Just something Sam has.”

“They’re freaky.”

“He’s using them to keep you two safe. Not to kill people, or anything wrong.”

“Do you need a reminder of what happened last time?” Dean snarls. Sam flinches a bit.

“I don’t see a garrison worth of angels and demons trying to manipulate Sam into starting the apocalypse.”

Dean laughs coldly. “Cas, if you think–”

“Enough!” Sam shouts, sick beyond measure of listening to this. “You heard him. I’m fine. Nothing weird. This is just something I can do.”

“Sammy, this is…”

Sam doesn’t want to hear it. He’s fine. He’s not doing anything wrong. Dean can spew words all day, but it won’t change anything.

Sam screws up his concentration and manages to summon a book from across the room to his waiting hands. It’s partially just to make Dean watch, partially so he can have a distraction, and he decides right then and there that this powers thing is pretty useful after all.

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rosworms

You can’t bring up someone’s past mistakes and perceived mistakes over and over again and think that it doesn’t affect them.

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wendibird

For all of the cinematographic beauty, and the frankly ASTOUNDING acting put forth in the Season 8 finale… I have SO much trouble watching it without wanting to throw things because of THIS shit right here! It’s like, Dean doesn’t even pay attention to half the shit that spews out of his face. He’d said back during the cursed-coin episode that he hadn’t meant any of the things he’d said to Sam, but CLEARLY those were all things that he’s still mulling over. Because he won’t ever drop it. 

Sam has paid a thousandfold for ANY mistakes he made in regards to the Apocalypse. (That’s not even getting into the fact that the Apocalypse was NOT solely on him. Dean unknowingly broke the first seal when he started torturing souls in hell. Sam unknowingly broke the last seal when he killed Lilith, who he thought at the time was trying to break the last seal herself. And the angels and demons in charge were all conspiring in one way or another to get the others to break. And to drive a wedge between the brothers in the process.) But no, Dean’s still perfectly happy with putting it all on Sam. And Sam’s just gotten used to taking it that he accepts it fully now. And Dean himself was ready to kill Lilith until he found out at the last minute that killing her was the last seal. But he’s only ever admitted that once. And then after that was always fine with blaming it all on Sam. 

As for not looking for him, Sam thought Dean was dead. He said as much. And it was established that they’d made a promise to each other NOT to go to extraordinary lengths to bring each other back from the dead, because of what it has cost the world in the past. But Dean didn’t care. He just stewed in his anger, completely disregarding the fact that Sam had been living through his own version of hell by trying to live without his brother during that time. And it wasn’t easy. But because he HAD managed it, apparently that equated to betrayal in Dean’s book. 

As for his soul… oh boy. Absolutely NONE of any of that whole fiasco involving his soul was Sam’s fault. Cas is the one who brought him back from the Cage and accidentally left that part behind. And then didn’t bother telling Sam anything for that whole year he was wondering around topside not-quite-right. Sam didn’t know what was wrong with him, just that everything felt different. 

And then, after throwing that all in Sam’s face, even if it was done in a half-joking manner, Dean still had the gall to be surprised when Sam felt like he’d let his brother down, and couldn’t stand to do it again. That he’d rather die than do that again. And even then, instead of giving him anything close to an apology, he basically just says “you’re wrong, and you need to get over it and stay with me.” 

Just…. ugg! I seriously love Dean at times, but times like these I want to shake him until his teeth rattle and tell him to stop treating his brother like crap and then being surprised when Sam gets upset about it. *very bitter about this still*

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assholebogan

I can’t believe Supernatural is really trying to push “Dean is also Jack’s father”. Lol, no… Dean mentally abused him for episodes/weeks. To the point the most powerful being on the planet, Jack, became terrified of Dean. Then it all stopped when Cas came back and everyone is just supposed to act like it didn’t happen. He literally told Jack he’d kill him after finding Jack stabbing himself; in pain…

Like an apology scene would have been nice. Instead of grown ass Dean acting like a cunt and abusing a child and then next episode he’s acting like “dorky”.

Sam is Jack’s father. Cas is Jack’s father. Dean… just no.

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eilf

Am I the only one who found Dean’s speech about protecting Sam incredibly patronizing (particularly the tone in which it was said)?

Yes Dean, Sam remembers going to hell. He was the one who did it. And it wasn’t because (as implied for the fans who haven’t seen/ don’t remember/are Deangirls back that far) he wasn’t strong enough to resist Lucifer - it was precisely the opposite.

Also I remember Dean giving Sam grief from season 8 onwards about not saving Dean from being (as he thought) DEAD ( ie not rescuable, but at peace) so where does all this ‘I never really cared about myself’ stuff come from? Especially, as Dean pointed out - while continuing to berate and put down Sam’s history of being there for Dean through everything by comparing him unfavourably to a vampire (!!!) - Dean hadn’t really found being in Purgatory all that bad. Most of the show is fueled from Dean not wanting to be alone - it’s been a trope since season freaking 1 - that’s someone with actually fairly healthy self interest.

‘I am the least of you let me sacrifice myself to Lucifer/close the gates of hell/swap myself into hell for my brother with no strings attached’ THAT’S a person who doesn’t care enough about themselves and needs some intervention.

But instead Sam is the one who can ask a room full of family and others if they are OK and none of them think to ask him in return.

I wouldn’t so much mind Dean getting a found family and taking up golf and having a buddy to go to the pub with while well aware that his brother was in HELL in comparison to Sam in Mystery Spot and with Amelia FALLING APART because actually HE is the one who doesn’t do well knowing Dean is gone, if the brothers were treated the same. But the sheer lack of justice to Sam which is about to complete its 6th year continues to be infuriating.

And don’t even get me started on that other winged hypocrite who can’t even take responsibility for being responsible letting Lucifer out of his cage (this time and working behind the scenes to make sure it would happen the last time)..

They all give me ire.

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sabath68

Nope, you are not alone.

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ok but dean saying "no matter what the reason is, that's not okay!" it's literally the most hypocritical thing i've ever heard. like, remember how you threatened a young girl with a gun just so you could get whatever you needed? yeah well she died too lmao is this shit even real???

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i guess it was my fault // i must’ve missed the warning

13.18 coda || sam’s feeling like shit after dean is a piece of shit yells at them and castiel finds him drinking in the library

pairing: it’s my classic Gen But Can Be Read As [Pairing] which is samcas in this case

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i wasn’t really sure what to write as a coda for 13.18 and @sahwen​ suggested this and @gaywitchtwins​ betaed it, so thanks, judah and nate. love you. xoxo

Sam flinches hard when Dean yells and flings some stuff off the table, but he tries to play it off as just looking away, even though the adrenaline and tension his panic caused are still fading from his shoulders and his fingertips.

They all stand there awkwardly for a few minutes, Dean faced away from them, still shaking slightly in anger, Castiel looking to the side in discomfort and shame, and Sam attempting to breathe, attempting to focus, attempting to act unafraid. Castiel meets his gaze hesitantly and Sam tries to look neutral, but he’s not sure it works.

Dean spins around suddenly and Sam flinches again and has to take a couple quiet, deep breaths. “Come on, Sam. We have to start researching again.”

Sam moves to sit down at one of the tables, but Castiel gently presses his hand against Sam’s chest protectively and levels a stern look at Dean. “There’s nothing you can do right now, Dean. And you both need rest anyway.”

Fuck you,” Dean snaps, and Sam would’ve tripped backwards if he didn’t feel so tired and broken and unable to move. “Of course we can do something. We can… we can—”

Dean. Go to your room.”

They both glare at each other for a solid minute, and Sam knows that Dean is debating whether arguing with Castiel right now is a good idea or not. He apparently decides he doesn’t want to get into it with the angel and turns around, leaving the library without saying anything else.

Sam and Cas keep staring at the doorway, probably both still in shock, before Castiel refocuses and lets his hand drop away from Sam. “Are you alright, Sam?”

Sam takes another second to look from the exit to Castiel’s face but when he does he nods kind of absentmindedly. “Yeah. T-totally! Why wouldn’t I be?” Fuck, he faked too hard. His voice sounds too happy and chill. His gaze drops down to the lamp on the table next to them. “Sorry… Uhh, tired but I’ll be okay.” It’s not directly a lie, even though it’ll be awhile until he’s okay again. A long while if he’s being honest with himself. And really? Why be honest with himself? “Thanks, Cas.”

Cas gives him a small, exhausted smile. “Get some rest, Sam. Call me if you need anything.”

Sam nods but he probably won’t actually call Castiel because he doesn’t need to be bothered with Sam’s bullshit mental health problems anyway. Especially not now.

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it’s funny that people go on and on about sam choking dean at the end of a fight where they both exchanged vicious blows, when:

1. sam had been subjected to inhumane treatment that very episode. he had been thrown into a little metal box to die because he didn’t meet dean’s arbitrary definition of “humanity”. sam had already been labelled sub-human long before he spiralled into the throes of his addiction; here he is now, dying in the slowest and most undignified way possible, while dean makes big empty speeches about how one had to be the right kind of serial killer to qualify to be alive.

2. a lot of times when dean lashed out physically at sam, sam did not hit back.

3. these same people were furious at sam for expressing his anger by simply walking away and trying to deal with himself, or expressing himself in a calm, measured way. sam needs to choose his words carefully to assuage dean’s feelings even when he’s a victim of dean’s actions; dean need never apologise.

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YUUUUUP. I find it pretty terrifying that people can look at this chain of events:

  • Party A locks Party B up and subjects Party B to a method of torture which risks death
  • upon Party B’s escape, Party A stalks and finds him and reiterates his motivation for the initial detainment
  • Party B responds with non-lethal violence

and say that Party B started the altercation. astounding.

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