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SarahTheCoat

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mostly Sherlock. The New Semester my dreamwidth
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tlirsgender

The remake reboot prequel sequel industrial complex is killing me but the good thing is I don't have to watch any of that. I can just think "that sounds boring or otherwise doesn't interest me in any way" and do something other than watch it

"They're making a willy wonka origin story with timothee chalamet," you might say to me. "They're doing a live action the last airbender again, didn't you love avatar?" I don't find it necessary. This is nothing to me

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amuseoffyre

If they did it well, we might be interested. But they don't. They don't care. They're not interested. They see a cash cow and they milk it to death.

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flameraven

Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to a live action Avatar if it was NEW. I think there's a lot of potential interesting stories to be told in that world, and live action has a broader appeal than animation and in some ways is easier to produce, so I can see moving the story to that format.

But studios aren't interested in telling interesting stories, they just want cash cows, so they keep doing lower quality remakes of the original thing instead. And ignoring details like the martial arts styles that made the world so rich.

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fansplaining

Episode 198: Strikesplaining

In Episode 198, “Strikesplaining,” Elizabeth and Flourish are joined by screenwriter, executive producer, and longtime friend of the podcast Javier Grillo-Marxuach to talk about the Writers Guild of America strike. Javi breaks down how television writing, production, and compensation have changed drastically in his three decades in the industry, and how this action is connected to broader labor struggles facing workers today. They also talk about the specific ways this strike touches fandom, including how streamers’ exploitative practices affect everyone from the people making the shows to the people who want to watch them.

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Angels Costumier Interview

Those of you who read this blog regularly know that the name Angels Costumier tends to come up quite a lot. They are the largest costume house in the world, and a huge majority of the costumes featured here originated from their stock. Recycled Movie Costumes has always wanted to know a bit more about how the process works, and Jeremy with Angels Costumier was kind enough to answer some questions.

Tell us a bit about the history of Angels Costumier and its companies.

In 1813 Daniel Angel, a young tailor from Frankfurt arrived in London with barely a word of English. He headed for Seven Dials and set up a barrow selling second hand clothes. He later opened a second hand clothing shop with his son Morris providing a service for those who wanted good quality clothes at reasonable cost. Later, when an actor asked if he could rent a suit rather than buy it, the hire business took off.  Morris and his son Daniel (3rd generation) moved to premises on Shaftesbury Avenue in the late 1880’s and Daniel opened a bespoke department in this new respectable environment. The quality and style of the clothes was high, and soon theatrical managers were seeking his services for their West End productions.  As the film industry was beginning, Angels began a relationship with the film industry that lasts to this day.  The Shaftesbury Avenue location ensured that Angels dressed every show of distinction in the West End, including musicals Showboat, The Girl Friend, The Co-optimists, The Year of Grace, No, No Nanette, and plays such as Journey’s End, and The Truth Game. In the late 1920s, after Madame Tussauds was destroyed by fire, Angels re-dressed all the waxworks and provided uniforms and livery for the staff. From 1940 to 1945, Angels provided dress uniforms for the Free French Army and for ENSA, the army entertainment troupe.  In 1948 Hamlet starring Laurence Olivier won the Best Achievement in Costume Design Oscar® at the Academy Awards. Angels have gone on to supply costume to another 36 Best Costume Oscar® winners. In 2015 Angels supplied costumes to four of the five films nominated for Oscars® in Costume Design and all five films nominated for the Film Costume Design at BAFTA: The Grand Budapest Hotel; The Imitation Game, Into The Woods, Mr Turner, The Theory of Everything and Maleficent.  Angels acquired Bermans in 1992, moving the professional hire for film, TV and theatre to Camden. This allowed the original Shaftesbury Avenue premises to be opened as Angels Fancy Dress; giving over almost one acre of storage space to public fancy dress hire. The company remains a family enterprise with the 7th generation of the Angels family now working in the company. We frequently see gowns that have been changed in minor ways to fit a different actress, but sometimes we also see costumes that are very heavily altered from the original form that they came in – trim being added or removed, etc.  What happens in those cases? If a designer rents a costume, are they free to make alterations as they wish? What are the rules there?

Most of the time we prefer to make all changes ourselves. We have an alterations workroom with people are geniuses at what they do they can change the size of a costume without having to cut away any material so that we can use it in the future for different shaped actors.  If a customer wants to alter the outfit themselves on set there are very simple rules. Your changes have to be reversible, you can not cut away any material and you are not allowed to make alterations that will change the aesthetic of the costume (e.g. no dying it a different colour).

What are some of the oldest costumes that you’ve seen still being rented out today?  Do you think that is a testament both to the quality of their original designer, as well as the care that Angels has given to each garment? The oldest costume that we still hire out is a Blue dress from 1850, it actually features as an infographic in our book, the material used to make it is very heavy and therefore has been easy to repair over the years, but the ability to reuse the costume so much has to be put down to the abilities of our alterations department.  We do have older items in our warehouse but they are for research only the oldest item I have seen are a pair of shoes from the 16th Century and they are absolutely tiny.

Does Angels rent out to the general public for costume parties? We saw an instance recently where model Alexa Chung was able to wear one of Kiera Knighley’s gowns from The Duchess.

We also do rent to the general public. Our shop on Shaftesbury Avenue has 4 floors of costumes aside from Packet costumes you can find on Fancydress.com they have hire costumes, and these hire costumes come from our main stock, so if you were to hire a robin hood costume from us, there is a possibility it could be Kevin Costner’s from Prince of Thieves.  Or if you were to hire a period dress it could have been Kiera Knightley’s from The Duchess.  The famous story where this has happened is there have been several school nativity plays that have hired a cloak from us and we eventually realized that the robe being hired out was Alec Guinness’ Obi Wan Kenobi robe!!  

How are gowns chosen and pulled for use on a production?

There are several ways that shows are put together.  If we are pulling it for the designer, our staff will meet with the designer to find out what they are looking for, they will put a few looks together and either send the designer photos. Or if the designer is in our building, show it to them, and once they are happy we will continue pulling stock based on the measurements given to us or taken by us of the cast/extras.  If the designer’s staff are pulling outfits they will pretty much do the same as we would but when they are finished pulling everything we still need to go through it all to book it out. How do gowns get put into your collection?   If a costume designer has made new gowns for a film, do the films tend to sell them to you afterwards to help with production costs?

That is one way, yes.  If the production has made a dress and wants some money back after the production, they will offer it to either us, or other interested parties. Sometimes we will work out deals that will mean we can get the costumes they make at the end of the production in return for a reduced cost on what they are hiring from us. Sometimes we will buy an entire collection.  For example, the BBC costume department!  That’s how you grow your stock. Or the other way our stock grows is when we make for ourselves. We might identify we are short of one type of dress or suit and will make several for us. Or sometimes we will find a costume that is really good for productions but is damages beyond repair, so we will then make a new one and add that to the collection. 

We’ve heard a bit about a new costume exhibit Angels is putting on. Can you tell us a little more about it, and what costumes we might expect to see? The exhibition uses costumes to take visitors on a journey through Victorian London up to the present day. Visitors have the opportunity to experience first hand 175 years of Angels, and see extraordinary pieces from Film, TV and Theatre.  The exhibition starts from when Daniel first came over to the UK in 1813, and how the business changed to where it is today.  Throughout the exhibition are original costumes featured on some of the biggest films to date, recreations of truly iconic costumes that have not been seen before, and general costumes to highlight a period or a genre.  Costumes that feature are Benedict Cumberbatch’s Hamlet costume, costumes worn by Meryl Streep, Judi Dench and Cate Blanchett, costumes from Star Wars, Downton Abbey, Dr Who and many more.  In fact, the blue dress I mentioned earlier from 1850 that is featured in the exhibition as well. We have tried to create an experience that tells the story of one family business that has witnessed the growth of the entertainment industry, and what part it has played in that industry, while highlighting some truly wonderful designed costumes, as well as explaining how Angels works as a company - what we do and how we fit into the industry. What is your favorite film costume in the Angels collection, and why?

That is a tough one, as there are so many items I have come across that have meaning to me. Any costume from Mrs. Henderson Presents mean a lot to me, as that was my first ever film.  I was blown away when we found Rowan Atkinson’s officers uniform from Blackadder Goes Fourth, as that TV series was one of my favourites growing up. A very random one is an elf costume from Santa Claus the movie (the one with Dudley Moore) which I used to watch every Christmas. The fact we did the costumes always made me smile. It also helped that one of the actors who was an elf in the film also worked at Angels.  However one costume that I always love seeing is actually not a famous film costume. It is a recreation of the Queen’s Coronation dress that we made for Harrods. It is just simply stunning. There are over 4000 hand attached beads on this dress. We never thought it would be hired out again, as it was made as close to the original as possible, and we never thought anyone would have the same size and shape as the queen. But a current production has hired it to use as they have the queen’s coronation in their series, and the actress playing the queen fitted into the dress perfectly! The dress is also featured in our exhibition and we explain about the making-of process of it in our book too.

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Note: Angels does offer a tour if you want to learn more. If you live in the area, I highly suggest doing so (and e-mailing Recycled Movie Costumes and telling us about it, please!) . Recycled Movie costumes is trying to interview other costume houses as well, and will post as they become available.

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Anonymous asked:

Since you brought up the sort of myths with fandom vs what you've seen in tv... I'm sure you've seen in probably all fandoms, there comes a time when a collective comes together to say that something is/isn't happening because of "X movie company" or "management". So my question is - from behind the scenes, how much of that is actually true? Like are there people really holding the strings like that? Or are we going crazy? 😳

The answer is it’s complicated.

Also, you’re not crazy.

Let me start by comparing TV writing to book writing. I just wrote a book, and I only got creative notes from one person, my editor. She does two rounds of notes with me (a general edit and a line edit) and then passes me off to the copyeditor, who gives me grammar and spelling and continuity notes. Then it goes to print! Easy peasy! (Well, not easy at all, it’s a lot of work, but very straightforward.)

Compare that process to the TV writing process. Every Rdale script is broken (meaning: figured out) in the writer’s room, where there are 11 writers plus Roberto, our fair boss and Showrunner. We all chime in with ideas and suggestions and Roberto decides what direction he likes best and chooses the pitches that work best until we have a working outline. Then we put the scenes onto notecards, moving them around, re-breaking, rejiggering, until the story works. That’s a lot of hands stirring the pot so far, but we have one head chef: Roberto.

Then we write an outline, which gets notes from the producers, the studio (Warner Brothers), and the network (CW). Then we adjust based on those notes, which come from a few of the execs at each company, who are smart and very good at their jobs, which involves reading and analyzing TV scripts from many shows and deciding what works well for them. They’re drawing on their whole careers-worth of experience doing this on lots of different shows to figure out how to guide the direction of Rdale.

Then we go to script. The writer of that episode takes the very detailed outline and starts writing scenes. Sometimes s/he might farm out some scenes to other people in the writers room, or sometimes the room will move on to the next episode and leave that writer to write solo.

Then the completed script goes to Roberto, who does a pass on it to make it sound like his vision for the show, and feel like the characters he has in his head.

Then, when he’s happy, he brings it back to the writers room and we all read it and go through it page by page together to revise it and give notes. At this point, Roberto has the script open on a computer in front of him, and he changes dialogue, action lines, scenes, etc. live as we give feedback.

Then, the script goes back to the producers, the studio, and the network, to get notes from them. Sometimes those notes are minimal, and sometimes they’re major, it all depends. The writer and Roberto make revisions based on those notes. Sometimes we have to go back to the room and rebreak as a group, but usually not.

Somewhere along the way, someone at Archie Comics reads it to make sure we’re taking care of the characters they’ve had and loved for 75 years.

At some point, someone in a legal department reads it for clearance, which means sometimes we can’t use certain brand names in dialogue or else we’ll get sued, and we can’t use certain people’s names unless they’re in the public eye.

Also someone in some department reads it to make sure we aren’t swearing too much or referring to something too vulgar or the FCC will fine us.

Then the script is sent up to Vancouver where production reads it and starts pre-production. Sometimes there are changes to the script at that point because we can’t get a location or we can’t get an actor because he’s booked on another series, or the weather won’t allow us to shoot somewhere, or we have to move an outdoor scene indoors, or a night scene to day for budget reasons. Revisions are made here. The actors read it, and occasionally they’ll have notes which require revisions.

Then it gets shot. Then the footage is sent to post-production, who starts to edit it. In the edit, frequently we’ll learn that our episodes are several (maybe many) minutes over, and we’ll have to cut lines, jokes, moments, sometimes whole scenes for time.

Then those rough cuts get sent to the producers, the studio, the network for notes.

You get the idea yet? There are lots and LOTS of hands in the pie here. Hundreds, maybe a thousand. If a certain idea isn’t making it through from initial pitch to the final screen, it could be any one of the people along the way raising a red flag. Usually there’s no grand conspiracy – there’s too many people with competing interests for that. If you find that you’re less than satisfied with something on your screen, it could be for the devious reason you suspect or it could be for a completely benign reason like budget or schedule. There’s no one grand puppetmaster holding the strings, but there are lots of people making changes along the way.

tldr: There are too many companies and too many people for any kind of grand conspiracy, but that doesn’t mean that a bunch of people giving tiny notes couldn’t add up to something bigger.

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I wrote this a long time ago about the process a single Riverdale script goes through from conception to air that might be relevant currently.

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fansplaining

In light of some of the conversations in this week’s episode, this post by a TWO-TIME FANSPLAINING GUEST is very helpful for understanding the many, many hands—and competing priorities—involved in making a TV show. 

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