Let me remind you that Sherlock owns 23 and 24 Leinster Gardens. He owns these two big properties, but, when a cute soldier comes in, HE'S TOO POOR TO AFFORD A FREAKING FLAT ALONE

surface nonsense, absolutely.

metaphorically, hmm... a house might represent the self, or one's life situation. an empty facade, a bolthole, a bleak, narrow hallway: seems pretty lonely and dire. on the other hand it's a ventilation shaft for the trains, trains in tunnels. so there's air (thought) and trains (classic filmspeak for libido) so not totally depressed.

@ebaeschnbliah @possiblyimbiassed @raggedyblue @sagestreet

anyone else still into metaphorical readings? apologies to OP if this isn't where you wanted it to go, but nearly every time there's a bit of utter nonsense on the surface, it turns out to have a metaphorical reading that makes a bit more sense.

I don’t think it was ever about money in the show. (Look at how he dresses, the fees he refuse and how mrs Hudson easily would let them stay for free.)

I think Sherlock might have looked for a flat mate because he can’t really live by himself. (Though he does point out in ASIP that “together we might be able to afford it”, so I dunno.)

@sarahthecoat This is exactly where I wanted it to go. Thank you. Thank you to all the people in this fandom reading between the lines. THIS, the metaphorical, symbolic reading, THIS is why I'm here. Thank you.

(Also the trains for libido??? Is that true? There is some deducing to do about S3 because there are trains everywhere)

glad we found each other! the metaphorical reading is the one i keep coming back to also, though i enjoy reading all the theories and interpretations. fandom is broad and we bring so many different views to the story.

trains, especially trains going into tunnels, have been a cinematic metaphor for sex for a long, long time. not the only possible metaphor, but very commonly used. and in a show that seems to be all about sherlock's brain vs his body, it's not a reach. yes, there are trains everywhere in the show. i think it's interesting that trains figure prominently in TGG also, but only above ground. in TEH they go underground, and in HLV at last we have that ventilation shaft, linking the two states.

oh, and @alltingfinns brings up the money aspect. money is also a rich metaphor. it can be a substitute for emotions (even irl!) for example. so in ASIP, "together we can afford it" could mean "we'll both be much happier together" (so true!). mrs hudson's family discount represents her affection and gratitude. sherlock may scoff at money (sentiment) but he does always seem to have plenty!

Let me remind you that Sherlock owns 23 and 24 Leinster Gardens. He owns these two big properties, but, when a cute soldier comes in, HE’S TOO POOR TO AFFORD A FREAKING FLAT ALONE

surface nonsense, absolutely.

metaphorically, hmm… a house might represent the self, or one’s life situation. an empty facade, a bolthole, a bleak, narrow hallway: seems pretty lonely and dire. on the other hand it’s a ventilation shaft for the trains, trains in tunnels. so there’s air (thought) and trains (classic filmspeak for libido) so not totally depressed.

@ebaeschnbliah @possiblyimbiassed @raggedyblue @sagestreet

anyone else still into metaphorical readings? apologies to OP if this isn’t where you wanted it to go, but nearly every time there’s a bit of utter nonsense on the surface, it turns out to have a metaphorical reading that makes a bit more sense.

Yes, @sarahthecoat a metaphorical reading makes the most, if not the only sense to explain this kind of occurrences in Sherlock BBC. As @gosherlocked​ wrote in this old post, it’s impossible (in real life) to use those houses to live in at all and - to quote Sherlock from canon (and Mycroft from PILOT)  - ‘if you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains must be the truth’ (We told you but did you listen?, quote by Mofftiss). On a metaphorical level though, those houses have great significance indeed. As you already mentioned, it isn’t uncommon to use  ‘house’ as a metaphor for the ‘self’ or the ‘body’ (set this house on fire). But there is still more. Those twin ‘Empty Houses’ at Leinster Gardens draw a bridge to AC Doyle’s story TheEmptyHouse and by doing this they create also a connection to the show’s prior episode TGG and the ‘empty house’ opposite 221b (the empty houses). There is another connection to ASIP and the empty school buildings which are deliberately presented as perfect ‘twins’. The motive of twins and pairs is repeatedly picked up in this show and therefore should have some meaning. There is another connection to TheEmptyHearse because the title of this episode is used as a wordplay for the canon story TheEmptyHouse and it features really a lot of trains and tunnels (X). What also comes to mind is the motive of ‘empty houses’ linked to ‘fateful gardens’ that seems to connect Lauriston Gardens (ASIP), Leinster Gardens (HLV) and Miss Orrie’s Garden (TST). And in no case one should forget who has been chosen to be the key-driver in this story … the station master of all the trains, of the entire transport … ‘Choo-choo, come on now! Aaaaaall aboard!’ :)))

thanks so much, i knew there would be so much more once we started pulling this thread!

Let me remind you that Sherlock owns 23 and 24 Leinster Gardens. He owns these two big properties, but, when a cute soldier comes in, HE'S TOO POOR TO AFFORD A FREAKING FLAT ALONE

surface nonsense, absolutely.

metaphorically, hmm... a house might represent the self, or one's life situation. an empty facade, a bolthole, a bleak, narrow hallway: seems pretty lonely and dire. on the other hand it's a ventilation shaft for the trains, trains in tunnels. so there's air (thought) and trains (classic filmspeak for libido) so not totally depressed.

@ebaeschnbliah @possiblyimbiassed @raggedyblue @sagestreet

anyone else still into metaphorical readings? apologies to OP if this isn't where you wanted it to go, but nearly every time there's a bit of utter nonsense on the surface, it turns out to have a metaphorical reading that makes a bit more sense.

META COLLECTION

Masterpost n.5 - MARY MORSTAN IS A VILLAIN

X (Moriarty wants to kill John so as to stay with Sherlock - Mary does the same but for John)

X (Mary works for Moriarty - John is Sherlock's heart and has to burn)

X (Mary = heteronormativity)

X (Mary is the villain, not Magnussen)

X (Mary is emotionally abusive and sadistic)

X (Mary's posthumous revenge)

X (Was Mary the reason why Sherlock and John didn't see each other for one month?)

X ("You don't tell John")

X (Leinster gardens - Mary threatened to kill Sherlock for the second time)

Part 4 is here

The lie of Leinster Gardens …..

Impressions from Sherlock BBC, His Last Vow

THE ‘LIAR’ SERIES  …….  Just a big old liar  -   Who are you?  -  The lie of Leinster Gardens  -   My lying wife  -  You lied and lied   -   The version of you I present to the public  -   You lie all the time

A stand-off between the three Sherlocks? @ebaeschnbliah

Yes, @lukessense  Over the course of the last years I’ve come to the conclusion that the story told in Sherlock BBC happens entirely inside Sherlock’s mind. In a way I see it as a conversation that Sherlock holds with himself, while he investigates, deduces and evaluates his own persona. A process that is necessary for a change. Different aspects of his persona, different viewpoints, are represented by different characters and Sherlock lets them act on a mind stage to solve the problem … his own case, the pink one. Maybe with this adaptation the creators tell TILOSH (the inner life) instead of TPLOSH (the private life) of Sherlock Holmes. 

Regarding the scene above: the house is the body (Sherlock’s property), the picture on its facade is the mask he wears. The reason for its existance, the marriage to John, is to cover and guard Sherlock’s emotions, especially the ones related to his (eternal) ‘best friend’. 

@ebaeschnbliah and if you consider the framing of the shots here, the camera angles, the way the shots are established…is looks like we have an actual stand-off (a bit western-like) between Sherlock and two alter egos of sorts. Yes John and Sherlock are working together here but they’re still on different sides and all three characters are presented as shadows and/or hidden inside of them. Sherlock at war with himself?

(I gotta rewatch that scene, it’s been a while)

Absolutely, @lukessense  It’s also an interesting (and amusing) thought that the scene above happens at a location which doesn’t exist in real life. The Empty Houses of Leinster Gardens are entirely empty. There is no place at all for anything or anyone to stand or act. By blending reality and fantasy into each other though, the scene would take place exactly on the ‘hidden’ (steam) train tracks, right? :)))

rb for MIND BLOWING discussion. omg i love the metaphorical mind palace reading.

also the “western standoff” setup is riffed on in ASIB at battersea, and in TST in the morocco scene. maybe also in the other shootings? verging on free associating here, well past lights out time.

@ebaeschnbliah sounds like a perfect place to have an internal battle about your desires for your eternal ‚best friend‘ right?

@sarahthecoat you‘re absolutely right, we do have this standoff-scenario several times and I‘d say that each time it could portray an internal battle of Sherlock? Battersea definitely feels like that. And when I think about battles I immediately have to think about battle stations and the war and both being a metaphor for emotional turmoil and Sherlock‘s war against his emotions.

yes, and then look at the buildings themselves, since in a mind theater reading, they represent the conception of the self. ASIP, two twin buildings; TBB, a big old museum, with multiple levels. ASIB, a decomissioned power station; THOB, henry's home and dewar's hollow. HLV, this hollow shell, a high rise with a lot of glass, and a patio. and so on. in a way, every structure chosen for a setting is illuminating sherlock's concept of himself at the moment.

The lie of Leinster Gardens …..

Impressions from Sherlock BBC, His Last Vow

THE ‘LIAR’ SERIES  …….  Just a big old liar  -   Who are you?  -  The lie of Leinster Gardens  -   My lying wife  -  You lied and lied   -   The version of you I present to the public  -   You lie all the time

A stand-off between the three Sherlocks? @ebaeschnbliah

Yes, @lukessense  Over the course of the last years I’ve come to the conclusion that the story told in Sherlock BBC happens entirely inside Sherlock’s mind. In a way I see it as a conversation that Sherlock holds with himself, while he investigates, deduces and evaluates his own persona. A process that is necessary for a change. Different aspects of his persona, different viewpoints, are represented by different characters and Sherlock lets them act on a mind stage to solve the problem … his own case, the pink one. Maybe with this adaptation the creators tell TILOSH (the inner life) instead of TPLOSH (the private life) of Sherlock Holmes. 

Regarding the scene above: the house is the body (Sherlock’s property), the picture on its facade is the mask he wears. The reason for its existance, the marriage to John, is to cover and guard Sherlock’s emotions, especially the ones related to his (eternal) ‘best friend’. 

@ebaeschnbliah and if you consider the framing of the shots here, the camera angles, the way the shots are established…is looks like we have an actual stand-off (a bit western-like) between Sherlock and two alter egos of sorts. Yes John and Sherlock are working together here but they’re still on different sides and all three characters are presented as shadows and/or hidden inside of them. Sherlock at war with himself?

(I gotta rewatch that scene, it’s been a while)

Absolutely, @lukessense  It’s also an interesting (and amusing) thought that the scene above happens at a location which doesn’t exist in real life. The Empty Houses of Leinster Gardens are entirely empty. There is no place at all for anything or anyone to stand or act. By blending reality and fantasy into each other though, the scene would take place exactly on the ‘hidden’ (steam) train tracks, right? :)))

rb for MIND BLOWING discussion. omg i love the metaphorical mind palace reading.

also the "western standoff" setup is riffed on in ASIB at battersea, and in TST in the morocco scene. maybe also in the other shootings? verging on free associating here, well past lights out time.

Fateful gardens - empty houses …

Impressions from Sherlock BBC, A Study in Pink, The Sign of Three, The Six Thatchers ….. ladies in pink, white and blue & Sherlock in pink and blue

Boltholes

In HLV, we learn of Sherlock’s boltholes for the first time. I don’t think any of us were surprised to learn that Sherlock had places no one knew about, where he could hide, lay low, whatever. But, that’s the interesting bit right there: apparently everyone knew about them?

What’s the point of having a hiding place that’s not secret?

The thing is, I think they are secret. Even still. How?

Because they are all in his mind palace. Because I believe they are all part of his mind palace.

Where has Sherlock been in his mind palace? 

*I’m sure I’m missing some there, and if I am, please, let me know. :)

Then we get the mention of all of Sherlock’s boltholes after he’s escaped hospital (improbable). That everyone, right down to Mrs Hudson, knows about these places where Sherlock can hide, just seems to defeat the purpose for me. Unless…these are all mentioned after Sherlock has been shot and in a time where I believe that Sherlock is indeed unconscious and this is all taking place in his mind palace anyway.

Is it possible- or even plausible- that these ‘boltholes’ are still more areas of Sherlock’s mind palace?

*ETA: this post by @longsnowsmoon5 and further amazing input by @tjlcisthenewsexy regarding water and ‘two’ rivers and the Camden Lock.

I understand the thought that this is ‘too much’, but it is Sherlock, and he is a drama queen.

@tjlcisthenewsexy @ebaeschnbliah @stillgosherlocked @isitandwonder @yan-yae @multivariate-madness @sherlock-little-weed @the-7-percent-solution

Because of this post by @sherlock-little-weed. I’ve got boltholes on the brain again. 

@monikakrasnorada, the boltholes have been bugging me for a long time and your analysis is on spot. I made a post here X about how we get a greenhouse (glasshouse) and a tomb in TAB which is clearly MP. And the whole Leinster Gardens layout is an impossibility X which would be no problem had they had not used a real structure everyone can research online or visit in London. There is no house, no hallway, no rooms, nothing but a wall. 

I went looking for this Blind Greenhouse and came across a remark in Sherlock forum about it. I found this quote: “Blind Greenhouse – I would assume the word "blind” in this case refers to a greenhouse where the glass is covered with curtains to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the plants – which would also make the interior fairly private (unlike most greenhouses)“

’‘Blind’ has several meanings including "having or causing a lack of discernment or awareness.”

Looking over the buildings I came across the Orangery. Built in 1761, it was originally meant to house Oranges and other Citrus trees…but they made it too dark, so the trees were taken out.

@gosherlocked @ebaeschnbliah @sarahthecoat @tjlcisthenewsexy

ooh, thanks for bringing this back. in the notes, yan-yae mentions the idea that sherlock had particular places to hide depending on who he wanted teso find him, so maybe look into the metaphorical readings on those connections too.

and as always any mention of glass says glass closet to me, and the orangery is such a perfect example. was there a single person present for that best man speech who didn't pick up on sherlock's Big Secret?

reviewing the lists of locations in the op, they are each a range of sites, from underground to way up high (stairs code by @just-sort-of-happened ) private to public, if that matters. interesting that only some of them seem to exist in our world, i wonder if any of the ones that don't are references to other adaptations in the Giant Lego Set Of Canon (TM). i love that camden lock is all about controlling the flow of water=emotions! and the giant clock face, after TAB, we associate the pocket watch with the modern phone=heart.

testing whether there is a matching between the two lists, just in case that twigs anything.

the underground, and leinster gardens

the courtroom, and dagmar court?

baker st, and molly's bedroom (since molly is a john mirror, and there's that indication in ASIB that both boys were up in john's room)

the morgue, and the tomb

mycroft's bunker, and parliament hill?

roland kerr college and the padded cell don't immediately suggest connections (to me) to any of the others, camden lock, the greenhouse, or big ben... i would be interested in anyone else's thoughts!

London’s Fake Houses

hmm, interesting! I'm struck by the doors as well as the windows being just painted on. So how were sherlock, john and "mary" supposed to have gotten "inside"?

On my 14th re-watch of HLV, spotted something new (to me at least). On her walk in Leinster Gardens to find Sherlock Mary passes by the Henry VIII hotel.  That particular king was known for executing his wives, am I right? Who on this show could possibly want to kill his lying, love-of-his-life-murdering, wife?

HMMMM!!

HLV - The Impossible House

I am still trying to work out the layout of the empty house at Leinster Gardens. The real “houses” are just a facade with a depth of 5 ft (= 1,50 m), i.e. a thick wall supported by steel girders stabilising to the real houses to the left and right. Underneath there are the tracks wide enough for two Underground trains to pass each other. These are the facts. In HLV we even get an aerial tracking shot showing us the layout.  

Here we see Mary entering the house. You can see a fake window to the left of the door. Which means that there is no window inside, not to the left of the door and not on the back since there is only a wall. 

Here we see the long hallway from John’s POV. Maybe the hallway is not more than 5ft wide but to John’s left there is a small lab. There is no room for the lab within a wall measuring 5 ft in depth. 

But there is more. Because here we get Sherlock’s POV when entering the hallway after Mary has shot the coin. Btw, where does he come from? Why did Mary not see him in that supposedly cramped space? And look - there is some space to Sherlock’s right, down in the corner. There are even some objects I cannot make out right now. 

And as if this was not enough, there is what seems to be a window, some object on the sill and in front of that a leather Chesterfield sofa or chair similar to the design of Sherlock’s chair we see in TAB’s Victorian 221B. 

So what do we have? 

A long hallway with wider spaces at both ends - the lab and window with the chair/sofa. 

Now we know that there is no space at all in a house which only consists of a 5ft deep wall without any windows. And what is more, here you can even look out at what seems to be one of the black doors to be found in the street. How is this possible? 

They chose to use an existing building you can find on hundreds of online photos and then gave it an interior that is just impossible and a chair like the one found in Sherlock’s Victorian MP. I never really believed in the boltholes since they have never been mentioned on the show before. And the fact that the most important bolthole is full of impossibilities confirms my belief that this whole part of the episode only happens in Sherlock’s mind. (Please also read this great meta plus additions on the empty houses in the show X).

@ebaeschnbliah, @isitandwonder, @monikakrasnorada, @pocketofwriting, @tjlcisthenewsexy, @tendergingergirl, @longsnowsmoon5, @the-7-percent-solution, @xistentialangst, @may-shepard

Great work!

Interesting! I’ve always been of the mind that, if EMP is real, it doesn’t start until after the Watson domestic. But at this point I’m prepared for anything to happen in S4. 

I always assumed the ‘facade’ bolthole at Leinster Gardens was a big ⊏ or possibly even a ▢ shaped service corridor running around the perimeter of the ‘vent for the steam engines’.

@gosherlocked Ok, here’s the pic from - presumably - when the facades of Leinster Gardens were built or the original houese standing in thei spot were pulled down:

This is the same view in 2012:

I’d say there’s no corridor or whatsoever behind the facade, at least nithing that looks like the room the scene is set in. So they couldn’t have filmed the scene inside the empty house on location. They either chose somewhere else or even built it in the studio. Because of how we leave the scene - the shot from above - I’d say it was set up in the studio but I’m not sure.

@isitandwonder: Thank you for adding this. The house is a facade, something appearing to be there, something that is not real. We have discussed how this refers to Mary, which is true, but there is a deeper meaning still. There is no empty house at all in Leinster Gardens. What we see, is not real. And they even show us by giving not just the address so everyone can do their research, they also show us the wall and the train tracks immediately behind. We are looking into a void instead of a house. 

oh my! and, “mary” is identified with this facade by the image of her face being projected onto it. So, is that saying she also doesn’t really exist at all? Like, beyond being a not-reformed assassin with a stolen identity, just, not even real? I guess this is also in light of @green-violin-bow ’s recent meta about historiographic metafiction. (It’s linked in the new semester google folder, which i need to figure out how to put a link to on my blog header)

They built it in studio, because 1) they couldn’t get permission to use the location and 2) it’s completely impossible to film anything useful in 1,5 meters of space. 

I’m pretty sure they mention it in the commentary to the episode… 

especually when that 1,5 meters is imaginary! ;)

HLV - The Impossible House

I am still trying to work out the layout of the empty house at Leinster Gardens. The real “houses” are just a facade with a depth of 5 ft (= 1,50 m), i.e. a thick wall supported by steel girders stabilising to the real houses to the left and right. Underneath there are the tracks wide enough for two Underground trains to pass each other. These are the facts. In HLV we even get an aerial tracking shot showing us the layout.  

Here we see Mary entering the house. You can see a fake window to the left of the door. Which means that there is no window inside, not to the left of the door and not on the back since there is only a wall. 

Here we see the long hallway from John’s POV. Maybe the hallway is not more than 5ft wide but to John’s left there is a small lab. There is no room for the lab within a wall measuring 5 ft in depth. 

But there is more. Because here we get Sherlock’s POV when entering the hallway after Mary has shot the coin. Btw, where does he come from? Why did Mary not see him in that supposedly cramped space? And look - there is some space to Sherlock’s right, down in the corner. There are even some objects I cannot make out right now. 

And as if this was not enough, there is what seems to be a window, some object on the sill and in front of that a leather Chesterfield sofa or chair similar to the design of Sherlock’s chair we see in TAB’s Victorian 221B. 

So what do we have? 

A long hallway with wider spaces at both ends - the lab and window with the chair/sofa. 

Now we know that there is no space at all in a house which only consists of a 5ft deep wall without any windows. And what is more, here you can even look out at what seems to be one of the black doors to be found in the street. How is this possible? 

They chose to use an existing building you can find on hundreds of online photos and then gave it an interior that is just impossible and a chair like the one found in Sherlock’s Victorian MP. I never really believed in the boltholes since they have never been mentioned on the show before. And the fact that the most important bolthole is full of impossibilities confirms my belief that this whole part of the episode only happens in Sherlock’s mind. (Please also read this great meta plus additions on the empty houses in the show X).

@ebaeschnbliah, @isitandwonder, @monikakrasnorada, @pocketofwriting, @tjlcisthenewsexy, @tendergingergirl, @longsnowsmoon5, @the-7-percent-solution, @xistentialangst, @may-shepard

Great work!

Interesting! I’ve always been of the mind that, if EMP is real, it doesn’t start until after the Watson domestic. But at this point I’m prepared for anything to happen in S4. 

I always assumed the ‘facade’ bolthole at Leinster Gardens was a big ⊏ or possibly even a ▢ shaped service corridor running around the perimeter of the ‘vent for the steam engines’.

@gosherlocked Ok, here’s the pic from - presumably - when the facades of Leinster Gardens were built or the original houese standing in thei spot were pulled down:

This is the same view in 2012:

I’d say there’s no corridor or whatsoever behind the facade, at least nithing that looks like the room the scene is set in. So they couldn’t have filmed the scene inside the empty house on location. They either chose somewhere else or even built it in the studio. Because of how we leave the scene - the shot from above - I’d say it was set up in the studio but I’m not sure.

@isitandwonder: Thank you for adding this. The house is a facade, something appearing to be there, something that is not real. We have discussed how this refers to Mary, which is true, but there is a deeper meaning still. There is no empty house at all in Leinster Gardens. What we see, is not real. And they even show us by giving not just the address so everyone can do their research, they also show us the wall and the train tracks immediately behind. We are looking into a void instead of a house. 

oh my! and, "mary" is identified with this facade by the image of her face being projected onto it. So, is that saying she also doesn't really exist at all? Like, beyond being a not-reformed assassin with a stolen identity, just, not even real? I guess this is also in light of @green-violin-bow 's recent meta about historiographic metafiction. (It's linked in the new semester google folder, which i need to figure out how to put a link to on my blog header)

Watching that aquarium scene, I stg. It’s the meeting at Leinster Gardens and the Watson domestic™ all mashed into one. Mary never offers a bit of info, as Norbury spins her tale. Mary looks so guilty and surprised in turn at what Sherlock is offering as explanation.  

Is this what really happened at Leinster Gardens?? 

Stop ittttttt is that why some music bits from Leinster Garden scene are in TST?!?!?!?? Namely 1) when Mary meets Sherlock in that weird hiding place and also 2) during sherlock’s therapy session?! I’m … listen. I just taught piano 7 hours straight while having a massive migraine and I can’t think right but I’m pretty sure that HLV music bits are in those two scenes.

Holy shit! Seriously, @holmesianscholar?? I defer to your amazing knowledge because I am clueless when it comes to the music (well, as this original post shows, I’m clueless about a LOT) but wow. This scene is driving me bananas. It so clearly echoes the entire vibe of Leinster Gardens and the domestic. Norbury acts like Mary should have acted in those scenes to me. But maybe, what if, this is how the showdown at CAMs office, ie a glass-walled shark tank- literally and figuratively- happened??? I’m sorry you have had such a long day. Maybe you will have a chance to listen over the weekend, or next week. I would REALLY love to see what you come up with. ❤

I’m home now, did a quick review. Just confirming. HLV: Mary comes to Leinster Gardens, and Sherlock on the phone says “lies - the lies of Leinster Gardens, hidden in plain sight.”; = same music as TST: sherlock’s therapy scene. “A whole world has come crashing down around you.”

HLV: Mary’s true identity is revealed to John. = same music as TST: Sherlock and Mary in the weird hiding den, Sherlock says “I made a vow to keep you lot safe m8”; Mary calls him a dragon slayer. Then she drugs him with the thing that she had prepared in advance. Lmao

What the fuck

Mary is a facade. She’s not real. She’s Sherlock. He kills the facade in TST. They’re linking it all together.

Why John receives the yellow mask in MHR, before we ever see Mary. From The Adventure of the Yellow Face-Mofftiss using it for a wife with a secret past (they didn’t make it about race), it ends with the Norbury quote we see Sherlock tell Mrs. Hudson in T6T.

omg, you're right.

Watching that aquarium scene, I stg. It’s the meeting at Leinster Gardens and the Watson domestic™ all mashed into one. Mary never offers a bit of info, as Norbury spins her tale. Mary looks so guilty and surprised in turn at what Sherlock is offering as explanation.  

Is this what really happened at Leinster Gardens?? 

Stop ittttttt is that why some music bits from Leinster Garden scene are in TST?!?!?!?? Namely 1) when Mary meets Sherlock in that weird hiding place and also 2) during sherlock’s therapy session?! I’m … listen. I just taught piano 7 hours straight while having a massive migraine and I can’t think right but I’m pretty sure that HLV music bits are in those two scenes.

Holy shit! Seriously, @holmesianscholar?? I defer to your amazing knowledge because I am clueless when it comes to the music (well, as this original post shows, I’m clueless about a LOT) but wow. This scene is driving me bananas. It so clearly echoes the entire vibe of Leinster Gardens and the domestic. Norbury acts like Mary should have acted in those scenes to me. But maybe, what if, this is how the showdown at CAMs office, ie a glass-walled shark tank- literally and figuratively- happened??? I’m sorry you have had such a long day. Maybe you will have a chance to listen over the weekend, or next week. I would REALLY love to see what you come up with. ❤

I’m home now, did a quick review. Just confirming. HLV: Mary comes to Leinster Gardens, and Sherlock on the phone says “lies - the lies of Leinster Gardens, hidden in plain sight.”; = same music as TST: sherlock’s therapy scene. “A whole world has come crashing down around you.”

HLV: Mary’s true identity is revealed to John. = same music as TST: Sherlock and Mary in the weird hiding den, Sherlock says “I made a vow to keep you lot safe m8”; Mary calls him a dragon slayer. Then she drugs him with the thing that she had prepared in advance. Lmao

What the fuck

Wow, hmm. I think we may be "running scenarios" here... also, that "touch of drama" line is in TAB, the gong in the desanctified church, which... sorta suggests a connection to the crypt bolt hole, and to the shootings (the gong noise)