ASiB Clarification.
Ok, so I was rewatching ASiB and something about the German “Flight of the Dead” victim (John Coniston) that was found in the car-boot in Suffolk really confused me:
Lestrade says that his passport was stamped in Berlin, but if you look at the ticket stub, it says that his destination is Berlin.
The only reason that you would get a stamp in your passport would be upon arrival at your destination within the EU or the UK, neither of them give a stamp when you leave.
I’m assuming this flight was going from London to Berlin and crashed on the way there in Düsseldorf (what Lestrade says). It was planned that the flight would never reach it’s destination in Berlin, so why would the Germans go through the trouble of faking an entry stamp in Berlin to plant on the fake terrorist victim??
Even if he wasn’t meant to be leaving London, but rather Berlin, there would be no reason to have a stamp from the Berlin airport, because the Germans don’t stamp upon leaving the country or the EU.
Any input would be greatly appreciated :)
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Wow. There’s a “how can one man be in two places at the same time” duplicate man vibe about this case in how Lestrade phrases it: “this man should have died in a plane crash in Germany yesterday but instead he’s in a car boot in Southwark”. So we’ve got another duplicate man like the case in TST. I know the name on the ticket makes the dead man a John mirror, but then we had actual Sherlock in an actual car boot in TLD, so this little mirror story goes for both of them i think.
What I’m getting from this - call me crazy - is that this IS a duplicate man who WAS in two places at once, and somehow ALSO made it to his destination, Berlin, where he arrived and had his passport stamped. No, I don’t mean literally. I just think this is Sherlock dead in Samarra but also reaching Sumatra at the same time.
MYCROFT: You wrote your own version, as I remember. Appointment in Sumatra. The merchant goes to a different city and is perfectly fine.
Parallel universes? :)
I like it a lot @tjlcisthenewsexy . We return to the double choice, the bottle good or bad, forward or backward. Depending on the choice you make or find yourself on the plane or in the trunk. Always dead, but there is always a third option, there is always the sign of the three. And also fit about the coma, when you are physically in one place, but your mind and your consciousness are living in another at the same time. @ebaeschnbliah @gosherlocked @possiblyimbiassed
What an interesting deduction @hemlock-her-loss This adds even more incredibility to the whole ‘flight of the dead’ incident than is already there. I wrote about the ‘not-neatness’ of that plan some time ago (X) but there is something I want to add especially about the ‘Dusseldorf rehearsal’.
That plane crashed in Dusseldorf …. everyone dead …. but of course, all of those people where already corpses on a plane ….. therefore this must be indeed a very 'neat and clever’ plan of Mycroft ….. yes?
Well, Dusseldorf is a big city - an international business and financial centre - with more than 600.000 inhabitants … the seventh most populous city in Germany. It’s the capital city of North-Rhine-Westphalia and one of the central cities of the Rhine-Ruhr metropolitan area …. the largest metropolian area in Germany with more than 11 Million inhabitants.
How 'neat’ is it to let a plane crash in a city like this? Or nearby? I mean …. Mycroft gathers corpses for a plane to save lives and then lets it crash not somewhere over the ocean but in one of the largest metropolian areas????? No casualities on the plane, yes …. but what about the people in the city? There could be thousands of 'casualities’ with this 'neat’ plan of big brother! Can’t help myself, but inavitably WTC comes to mind with this scenario. Mycroft’s 'flight of the dead’ isn’t 'neat’ at all …. not even for a TV series!
Which leaves the question: is Mycroft a complete idiot or a terrorist?
Or serves the implausibility of a scenario like this another purpose?
@ebaeschnbliah this makes me think of the TFP plane that is about to crash right on a city. History repeats itself and the plane of the dead is about to reap even more victims. @gosherlocked @tjlcisthenewsexy @possiblyimbiassed @fellshish @sarahthecoat @sherlockshadow @loveismyrevolution
Really great observations here! These difficult days, when many of us are trapped inside, are at least good for some BBC Sherlock discussions and puzzle-solving. :) I seem to recall I’ve seen this post by @hemlock-her-loss a couple of years ago when it was first posted, but I don’t think I’ve actually responded to it before (sometimes tumblr simply seems to erase some of the additions in long threads, but I’m not sure in this case).
There’s definitely something fishy going on with the whole ’flight-of-the-dead’ concept, which we’ve also discussed in this meta (X) by me and these by @ebaeschnbliah (X, X), among others. I do agree it’s inconsistent that the victim would have his passport stamped in Berlin, since he was not supposed to have arrived there yet when the Dusseldorf crash happened (alternatively, since he wouldn’t have a stamp at all if he was leaving Germany). Technically he might have got the stamp at his arrival in Berlin, if the plane crashed on his return to England. But, as @hemlock-her-loss points out, the boarding card says Berlin is his destination.
Continued under the cut.
wow, i love that there is still more to tease out of these early episodes. Indeed, all of these "snags" where something doesn't add up, are pointers toward subtext. i'm also a fan of the metaphorical reading, where sherlock is populating his mind stage with ideas "cast" as people.
i hadn't noticed that both flights were "007", that's interesting. either mycroft gave them both that number because they are part of his "bond air" project, or sherlock did because he knows john likes bond movies.