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Well. There is a difference between blowing away and blowing to. You don’t make fewer dandelions by blowing their seeds everywhere.

So, alternatively, the girl is sending more umbrellas into the world, to keep everyone’s emotions under tighter control.

@devoursjohnlock  The girl blowing dandelion seeds/umbrellas (x x), in combination with the room mirrored in the glass of the picture, lets me think of a whirlwind of notes on staves …. the ebb and flow of a melody. 

Watched the scenes in the therapist’s house three times but couldn’t find even the slightes glimpse of anything that looks like this picture.. 

@gosherlocked @finalproblem @raggedyblue

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biologically correct @devoursjohnlock, but is Sherlock  the world or the dandelion? The way I read it is that Sherlock could be the core hidden under the umbrellas, where these umbrellas fly away is not a problem, also because a heavy rain could still drag them into the …deep water ;-P

The dandelion is also called … Dent-de-Lion, Lion’s Tooth, Löwenzahn … teeth of the lion … that’s big yellow cats. Just saying. :)

@devoursjohnlock​  The link you just sent me reminded me of other ‘dandelions’ pictured in this show. In Westie’s flat in TGG. They look a bit like umbrellas but according to the Sherlock BBC Wallpaper Masterpost it is called ‘Dandelion Clocks’. :)

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its just very funny to remember how angry people would get when we’d imply the sherlock set design had meaning when arwel is now still to this day like did anyone notice this art i painstakingly chose for its meaning that was in frame for 0.01 seconds ? 

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Well, of to watch ASiB with me!

Guys, I'm going crazy. I can't find the rest of the "subliminal suggestive ladies". That one is barely visible in the Netflix streaming and the screen shots I could find...

And really, I'm having a hard time not to meta this.

- we've solidly established Irene as a Sherlock mirror. She's his sexual side.

- if Irene is Sherlock's mirror, her house is a mirror for 221b in a way.

- There is one sexy lady at the foot of the stairs, and we've already established how important the foot of the stairs in 221 are for Sherlock and John's relationship.

- Arwel mentioned 5 ladies that they've added to the set. Why would they go through alk the trouble of adding these barely noticeable images if they're not somehow relevant?

- 5(!) ladies... 👀

But it's dangerous to jump to conclusions without all the facts. It would be great if we could find anymore of the ladies. I'm of a mind to beg Arwel to tell us...

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well, this is an interesting quest we have been given. are we sure that all five ladies are hidden in the gray wallpaper like this one, or could they be in various different "hiding places"? like there's that big tapestry in the sitting room, about which much meta has been written, that might account for at least one.

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Fascinating. Thank you, Arwel, for keeping us entertained. @ebaeschnbliah​

And subliminal is an interesting choice of words within the context of the whole show. 

Yes - isn’t it interesting how Arwel  can still drive us mad with all his symbolic props? :)) Nice catch with the foot of the stairs, @thepersianslipper​! I think the “subliminal suggestive ladies” fit well with the idea of Irene as a metaphor for Sherlock’s libido. But I can’t find any more than one of them either, and now I’ve re-watched all the ASiB scenes where we see Irene’s house. There are a few other wallpapers in her home, but none with any ‘ladies’ on it, as far as I can see. Could this rather be hint of five series?

That's what I thought, too @possiblyimbiassed. The five ladies could be the five beats (5 series) of the story where Sherlock comes to the end of his character arc. Mofftiss has told us time and again that this is a "story about a detective", that Sherlock is not unfeeling, rather, that he has a lot of feelings, repressed under a cold exterior. (they used the glacier vs volcano metaphor, I think...). We can only assume that among those feelings are feelings of desire and intimacy, of sexual need, hence Irene and the suggestive ladies.

We've discussed at length how that scene from ASIP, where John and Sherlock are leaning against the wall, out of breath, is meant to invoque the typical "above head" shot of a couple in bed after sex. And the fact that John is to the left of the shot and Sherlock to the right makes sense. Even more so if we look at the drunk on the stairs scene, which invoques a couple sleeping in bed. We know that John likes to sleep on his back, on the left side of the bed. We don't know if Sherlock has a "side" but when we see him sleeping, he's always on his side.

So, John and Sherlock on the stairs like a couple in bed, up pops lady n1. I wish we could find the rest of them.

I gave up and asked Arwel... Let's see if he answers.

I’m pretty sure there’s one barely visible through Irene’s bedroom door while she and Kate are talking after the palace scene.

And possibly another behind John when he’s standing in the doorway while Sherlock and Irene are talking.

I mean... I’m not saying that the lines above this piece of furniture are definitely an arm, but any lines in that wallpaper pretty much have to be body parts of these women. It’s otherwise all smoke.

Also, it’s kind of interesting that as the American aims to shoot the smoke detector, the motion of his arm drags the gun upward, pointing at the woman’s body as John watches. Hmm.

Brilliantly spotted @devoursjohnlock! That's exactly what Arwel said!

wow, that's hidden alright!

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